how many here used a ph before you went on to AAS

**PK-V** · 04-06-2010, 06:31 PM

If you could go back in time would you have gone straight onto the AAS and skipped the ph

Experiences/ Advice?

**POPS** · 04-06-2010, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by PK-V

If you could go back in time would you have gone straight onto the AAS and skipped the ph

Experiences/ Advice?

My first year I ran hdrol and liked it alot!

Second year I ran spawn and loved it!

I am currently running var/tbol and Ill let you know....

What can I say, Im taking baby steps, lol.....

**Kibble** · 04-06-2010, 06:59 PM

I ran Spawn last year. I gained tons of strength, but lost it after the cycle. I quit the cycle a week early because of the terrible back and calf pumps. I followed with a Nolva/Clomid pct from AR. I still kept losing strength. After 6 months I was right back where I started. I started Spawn around 226, got to around 245, and then back down to 226.

I would not have done a PH cycle if I could go back. I would have gone straight to a test only injection cycle. I saw the same gains as the prohormone, but it was easy to keep them. Also, the sides were amazing. Energy, focus, stamina, sex drive and aggression. During pct I kept all of my strength, minus 1-2 reps on each lift.

The biggest part that I am proud of, is that I waited until I was 232lbs at 15%bf before I started AAS, and of course, 25 years old

**Injected21** · 04-06-2010, 07:09 PM

I tried some stuff called Incredible bulk by ssl labs, man was it some potent shit. I dont know how it can make you gain 20+ lbs in 4 weeks but it does it with a tren and test blend. What i didnt like about it is that i didnt keep a lot of it, maybe only 5 lbs

**gymnerd** · 04-06-2010, 08:09 PM

I ran andro and all those PH way back when before I ever touched juice. Honestly I thought it was a waste of time.

**americanoak** · 04-06-2010, 08:15 PM

never did either, but been thinking about an hdrol cycle since it seems ot be very mild

still cant decide..

**PK-V** · 04-07-2010, 03:40 PM

awesome

more story's and experiences plox

**warchild** · 04-07-2010, 03:41 PM

m1t back in 2004

**Bossman** · 04-07-2010, 05:09 PM

I ran some andro cycles and had some benefit but it was minimal. Tried M1T once and hated it. Bloated me all to hell, lost it all when I went off. When superdrol came out, I though it was the shit and I still do. Even used it to jump start a cycle once. But it's more of a steroid .

I don't regret any of it. I was legal then and doing what I could. Injectables are where its at though.