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**curt75** · 10-23-2011, 04:23 PM

Hello guys. I am just about to order for my upcomming winter cycle and would really appreciate any feedback at all on the following cycle plan. I am considering HCG through the whole cycle because of some very compelling articles I have read recently. My post cycle is a little up in the air still as I an not sure I'll need so much given that I'll have run HCG through the whole cycle. Anyway, I would appreciate any thought you's may have. Thanks

I am 35yo 5'10" and a little on the low side right now at 180lbs
This will be my 4th cycle in two and a had years. I have not included an AI anything for gyno even though I have had symptoms in the past because I won't be taking it unless I need to. I probably will though. Suggestions on that are welcome as well. Also, I had tren in there as well but chose to remove it because I have never used Tren before and could not find any satisfactory consensus on how much test/tren to use, in what ratio ect... Suggestions there are welcomed as well.

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**Swifto** · 10-23-2011, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by curt75

Hello guys. I am just about to order for my upcomming winter cycle and would really appreciate any feedback at all on the following cycle plan. I am considering HCG through the whole cycle because of some very compelling articles I have read recently. My post cycle is a little up in the air still as I an not sure I'll need so much given that I'll have run HCG through the whole cycle. Anyway, I would appreciate any thought you's may have. Thanks

I am 35yo 5'10" and a little on the low side right now at 180lbs
This will be my 4th cycle in two and a had years. I have not included an AI anything for gyno even though I have had symptoms in the past because I won't be taking it unless I need to. I probably will though. Suggestions on that are welcome as well. Also, I had tren in there as well but chose to remove it because I have never used Tren before and could not find any satisfactory consensus on how much test/tren to use, in what ratio ect... Suggestions there are welcomed as well.

Week----D-Bol----EQ----Enan----Sust----HCG----Nolva----Clomid
1---------60-------400---300-----600--------------------------------
2---------60-------400---300-----600--------------------------------
3---------60-------400---300-----600------200----------------------
4---------60-------400---300-----600------200----------------------
5-------------------400---300-----600------200----------------------
6-------------------400---300-----600------200----------------------
7-------------------400---300-----600------200----------------------
8-------------------400---300-----600------250----------------------
9-------------------400---300-----600------250----------------------
10------------------400---300-----600------250----------------------
11--------------------------------------------250----------------------
12----------------------------------------------------------------------
13------------------------------------------------------20-------80---
14------------------------------------------------------20-------80---
15------------------------------------------------------20-------40---
16------------------------------------------------------20-------40---

5"10 180lbs...

You dont know anywhere near that ammount of AAS.

Please post your diet here and what exactly you ate yesterday?

**rockinred** · 10-23-2011, 04:30 PM

Also, I don't see a need to run the sust and test e together?

**10nispro** · 10-23-2011, 04:31 PM

are you running two types of test? If so, why?

your diet and eating patterns is going to be a direct effect on your weight gain. Speaking of weight, 180 pounds is light for your of sorts. You sure your diet is good now?

As for the tren , its my favorite for solid gains, or deca for nice gains as well. Test 500 and tren 400 is a great cycle

**curt75** · 10-23-2011, 04:45 PM

I am closer to 185 I suppose and that's about as high as I can get before cycle. I eat a lot. Chicken a couple times a day, a lot of pasta. I make a huge sauce a couple times a month and then eat spagetti once er twice a day. I eat a lot of healthy fats, nuts and include about a 1/2 cup of peanut butter and a 1/4 cup of olive oil in all my already high calorie shakes. I drink 3-4 of those a day too. I try hard to keep me calories high but it's a struggle. I can maintain that for a month er two before cycle and a month er two after. As for the two different types of test, the only EQ I can get ATM is Equitest. It's a mixture of 200E and 150 Enan. I didn't think that was near enough test and so I chose to add the blend. I can get my hands on most mainstream AAS so I can certainly change it up.

**curt75** · 10-23-2011, 04:53 PM

Oh... Yesterday I ate:
Breakfast:
4 poached eggs, two toast, cantelope and honeymellon with yogurt, baked beans, two sausage and a small bran muffin.

Lunch:
Three sandwiches (Egg salad, chicken salad and tuna), about a dozen cookies, two oranges, two bananas, three hard boiled eggs and some mixed uncooked veggies.

Dinner:
A very large plate of stew with veggies, two slices of bread, two dinner buns, a bowl of canned leaches and two scoops of mashed potatoes.

I eat other snake and drink high calorie shakes throughout the day as well.

**xelnaga** · 10-23-2011, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by curt75

I am closer to 185 I suppose and that's about as high as I can get before cycle. I eat a lot. Chicken a couple times a day, a lot of pasta. I make a huge sauce a couple times a month and then eat spagetti once er twice a day. I eat a lot of healthy fats, nuts and include about a 1/2 cup of peanut butter and a 1/4 cup of olive oil in all my already high calorie shakes. I drink 3-4 of those a day too. I try hard to keep me calories high but it's a struggle. I can maintain that for a month er two before cycle and a month er two after. As for the two different types of test, the only EQ I can get ATM is Equitest. It's a mixture of 200E and 150 Enan. I didn't think that was near enough test and so I chose to add the blend. I can get my hands on most mainstream AAS so I can certainly change it up.

Huge sauce, pasta... making my tuna can taste even crappier

**curt75** · 10-23-2011, 04:55 PM

Uh that's supposed to read canned peaches. Cuz eating leaches, though I'm sure a great source of protien, would be disgusting.

**10nispro** · 10-23-2011, 05:04 PM

just pick one test and use it. Your diet needs lots of work, in my opinion, but the gurus in the diet section do a great job at critiques.

**Swifto** · 10-23-2011, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by curt75

Oh... Yesterday I ate:
Breakfast:
4 poached eggs, two toast, cantelope and honeymellon with yogurt, baked beans, two sausage and a small bran muffin.

Lunch:
Three sandwiches (Egg salad, chicken salad and tuna), about a dozen cookies, two oranges, two bananas, three hard boiled eggs and some mixed uncooked veggies.

Dinner:
A very large plate of stew with veggies, two slices of bread, two dinner buns, a bowl of canned leaches and two scoops of mashed potatoes.

I eat other snake and drink high calorie shakes throughout the day as well.

This is why you weigh 180lbs mate.

Here's mine approx.

15g PeptoPro

6 eggs, 4 whites, oats, bannana

BCAA

2 chicken breast, salad, nuts, strawberrys

BCAA

2 cans tuna, quinoa, 1 TBSP EVOO, brocoli

BCAA

8-10oz fillet steak, spinach bannan, kiwi

PeptoPro

TRAIN/CARDIO

PeptoPro

2 salmon steaks, white potato, mixed veg

Whey Iso, oats, coconut oil

2 eggs, 8 whites

Casein shake

PeptoPro in the AM when I wake for a piss.

**10nispro** · 10-23-2011, 05:06 PM

also, drop the eg and use deca or tren . And 1gram of test is overkill.

**Sgt. Hartman** · 10-23-2011, 05:09 PM

LMFAO! I was about to ask what country you're from where they have canned leeches. LOL.

Your diet could definitely use some improvement, aside from the leeches. You should start a thread in the nutrition forum and get your diet dialed in before you decide what cycle to run.

**gbrice75** · 10-23-2011, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by rockinred

Also, I don't see a need to run the sust and test e together?

I was thinking the same...

Listen to Swifto on this one bro. Your diet can definitely use improvement; that is not a bodybuilder's diet imho. Also, if you want to cycle, that's one thing. But running all those compounds at your stats... I just don't see the point. Seems like a huge waste of money to me. You probably feel like since it's your 4th cycle, you should be running 'advanced' cycles... however I know guys on here who have run dozens of cycles and mainly stick to test only, albeit in higher dosages than what's typical.

I'll echo what Sgt. Hartman suggested - start your own thread in the nutrition forum and we'll help get you sorted out over there. You need food, not AAS.

**hankdiesel** · 10-23-2011, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by curt75

Oh... Yesterday I ate:
Breakfast:
4 poached eggs, two toast, cantelope and honeymellon with yogurt, baked beans, two sausage and a small bran muffin.

Lunch:
Three sandwiches (Egg salad, chicken salad and tuna), about a dozen cookies, two oranges, two bananas, three hard boiled eggs and some mixed uncooked veggies.

Dinner:
A very large plate of stew with veggies, two slices of bread, two dinner buns, a bowl of canned leaches and two scoops of mashed potatoes.

I eat other snake and drink high calorie shakes throughout the day as well.

Your lunch is ridiculous. I have a very hard time believing you eat all that in one sitting. I don't know if you heard or not but it is better to break up your meals evenly throughout the day.

**curt75** · 10-23-2011, 05:40 PM

That's more like two lunches. Again, I eat other things through the day but I work and have to bring lunch to work with me so I take as much food as I can and break it up through a ten hour day.