Hey everyone just wondering if I would still hold a lot of water with dbol if I was taking an AI?
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Hey everyone just wondering if I would still hold a lot of water with dbol if I was taking an AI?
more than likely yes you will hold some
Why wouldn't you take an AI?
What are your stats and what is your proposed cycle? PCT?
^^^ you and your fast fingers! LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Igifuno
Was wondering why he would be cycling without an AI in the first place?
that's what the ladies call me ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MuscleInk
The estrogen rising from dianabol is 17 methyl estradiol. It is very potent. But it also is a reason why the strength gains. i would suggest exemastane at about 10 mg/d. it is well tolerated, on the more mild ends and if you are just going to do dianabol it will leave a little of the estrogen to protect joints and other estrogen functions.
your not doing a dbol only cycle are you?
5"10, 200 lbs, training for around 3 years now, 14-15% bf. proposed cycle is weeks 1-12 500mg of test e and weeks 1-6 50mg of dbol. I'm not saying that I'm running this, I'm doing test only for my first cycle. I have friends who use dbol and they don't use AI's and they hold a ton of water, that's why I'm asking this question.
Tell your friends that you would not recommend a dbol only cycle. Dbol is best in cycles combined with testosterone and not alone. And show them this: http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...all-costs.html
Then tell them to say thank you Austinite..
Also show them this:
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rogen-men.html
And tell them to say thank you Igi ;)
How old are you?
Spot on Igi. They should be a lot more worried about the risks of estrogen than water retention. That is just so wrong to ignore those risks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Igifuno
what are you using for liver support? what Bout pct and hcg usage?
you need to lay your proposed cycle plan out like asked so others can make sure your good to go and help
nice stats btw, thats great base to start. age?
I never said they're running dbol only they're running test and deca as well, I just mean they're running without an AI
HCG 250 2xweek during cycleQuote:
Originally Posted by chadcuz1985
Pct: nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/75/50/50
Age: 22 (I know I'm young)
Terrible idea for them to run their cycle without an AI. Read Igi's link. The cardiovascular risks alone should be reason enough for them to avoid risking their health like that. Cardiac risks are more often silent killers. A blood clot, stroke, or heart attack aren't going to let you know they are about to strike.Quote:
Originally Posted by newguy92
so week 1-12 test e at 500mg? id keep xlomid at 75 first weekQuote:
Originally Posted by newguy92
you def need AI. listen to the guys.
NAC at 1200mg would be recommended also.
and yeah bro, @22 yo it will be frowned upon that you plan on cyclimg that early. have you read "The young and the.steroids" thread?
I know I agree. This is why I'll be running an AIQuote:
Originally Posted by MuscleInk
Nope I haven't read it. I figure I'm a grown man, I'm not one to do things frivolously. I'm doing my research, asking questions, my diet is pretty clean, I train 5 times a week. I don't really feel that my age should be much of a factor since I'm physically an adult. Also, I'm not planning on starting for another 4 months or so, trying to drop BF a little bit more
we can only tell you the dangers, its up to you to make the decision. it will be explained to you very shortly how things in your body are still developing even though you cant see it in the mirror
An AI will help you greatly but DIET will also determine some of this as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by newguy92
Age!!!
22..Quote:
Originally Posted by songdog