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    Would I be correct in thinking this?

    Would I be correct in thinking that, if you were to stack more compounds on your first cycle, the gains you would experience in later cycles would be less than what you could have expected had you gradually increased the number of compounds in each cycle?

    For example, would this set of cycles:

    Cycle 1A - Test E
    Cycle 2A - Test E and Dbol
    Cycle 3A - Test E, Deca and Dbol

    Gain more in the long run than this set of cycles:

    Cycle 1B - Test, Deca and Dbol
    Cycle 2B - Test, Deca and Dbol
    Cycle 3B - Test, Deca and Dbol

    The logic underpinning my question is that, by using more compounds to begin with, your body acclimatises to them and therefore later cycles would not yield as much gains as could have been expected if the stack was gradually increased.

    Any input would be appreciated.

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    1st - You are only 18. Too young to be taking drugs like steroids . Your hormonal system is still developing. Let it finish it's thing naturally.
    2nd - when your hormone system is fully developed, like in your mid twenties, then you should grow into your cycle slowly. When it comes to AAS, "less is more"

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    I'm actually 26. Where did you get 18 from? Maybe I plugged in a random date during my registration... I'll sort it out later.

    Anyway, is the premise correct? Would I experience more gains from the former set of cycles than the latter?

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    You can take as much as you want but gains are determined by nutrition and training, not volume of AAS used. The philosophy that you have to constantly add more compounds and more overall volume is flawed. You should grow into your cycles over time and experience.
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    Test only for a first cycle is correct. Your reasoning why test only for a first cycle is wrong. I suggest you do more reading on here, the answers are there. Check out the main page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris21 View Post
    Test only for a first cycle is correct. Your reasoning why test only for a first cycle is wrong. I suggest you do more reading on here, the answers are there. Check out the main page.
    I know why Test alone is advised for a first cycle (to enable you to identify where the side-effects are coming from etc) but I just wanted to know whether, if your nutrition and training were the same, would you gain more on Test E alone or Test E/Deca and Dbol ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    You can take as much as you want but gains are determined by nutrition and training, not volume of AAS used. The philosophy that you have to constantly add more compounds and more overall volume is flawed. You should grow into your cycles over time and experience.
    If you were to take two individuals on their first cycles, would you expect the individual doing a first cycle of Test E, Deca and Dbol to gain more muscle or the individual taking solely Test E? Provided, of course, all variables such as nutrition, training, starting stats and cycle length were exactly the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexLifter View Post
    I'm actually 26. Where did you get 18 from? Maybe I plugged in a random date during my registration... I'll sort it out later.

    Anyway, is the premise correct? Would I experience more gains from the former set of cycles than the latter?
    many here use AAS as a plateau buster. There is NOT a linear correlation between AAS dose and amount of gains.

    For example, if I were to cycle test at 500mg/week and gained a net ten pounds (after PCT), it would not be reasonable to expect that if I were to double my test intake to a full gram, that I would gain 20 pounds net, nor double my increases in strength.

    However, you will significantly increase your risk of sides with the larger dose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexLifter View Post
    If you were to take two individuals on their first cycles, would you expect the individual doing a first cycle of Test E, Deca and Dbol to gain more muscle or the individual taking solely Test E? Provided, of course, all variables such as nutrition, training, starting stats and cycle length were exactly the same.
    Odds are, yes. But again more is not better. Guys need to learn what test will do for them and how to handle those sides first, before embarking on a much larger, potentially issue ridden cycle with multiple compounds where they have no clue what did what both for and to them.
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