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07-23-2014, 12:54 PM #1Junior Member
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First cycle
HI GUYS I NEED ADVICE ON MY FIRST STEROID CYCLE FOR GAINING MASS:-
MY CURRENT STATUS IS:-
HEIGHT 5'10
WEIGHT 160 LBS
BF AROUND 9%
I M THINKING TO TAKE MY FIRST STEROID CYCLE AND WOULD BE LOOK LIKE THIS
1-16 WEEKS TEST ENANTHATE 600MG/WEEK
1-16 WEEKS DECA 600MG/WEEK
1-16 WEEKS DBOL 20MG/DAY
Week 1 to 16: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
PCT :-
Clomid @ 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20
AND FOR LIVER CARE 600 mg of N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC) daily.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK IS IT OK OR I HAVE TO DO ANYTHING LESS OR MORE
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07-23-2014, 01:12 PM #2
Read the beginner cycle stickys andwaitva bit longer. Are you aware of the risks involved with cycling at your age?
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07-23-2014, 02:10 PM #3
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How about you just train, eat and sleep. At 20 you dont need steroids . Your test levels are high enough, but if you have done any research at all you would know that this is a horrible first cycle. Wait until you are much older.
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07-23-2014, 02:15 PM #4
This a HUGE FIRST CYCLE !! Absolutely NOT
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07-23-2014, 02:22 PM #5
Agree with Jim and BigTahl. Terrible idea for many reasons and if you want gains, how about posting your nutrition plan. Almost everyone says their nutrition is "good" but most guys really do not eat enough, often, or the right proportion of macros to achieve their goals.
Not is the cycle a bad idea, you've missed some important aspects.
You do this, you stand a good chance of having recovery issues later on and possibly even becoming a TRT candidate early.
The vets aren't trying to discourage you. They are trying to encourage the RIGHT decision.
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07-23-2014, 03:18 PM #6
Put on 25 lbs and in 5 years maybe.
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07-23-2014, 03:56 PM #7
^^^^^^agree with Fit
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07-23-2014, 04:37 PM #8
stick to teste or cyp for 12 -14 weeks for first cycle. dont forget PCT and AI
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07-24-2014, 11:08 AM #9Junior Member
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07-24-2014, 11:09 AM #10Junior Member
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Please give your opinion on cycle now is it ok or not
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07-24-2014, 11:16 AM #11Junior Member
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And my current diet is look like this :-
meal1:- oats,egg whites , whole eggs, coffee
meal 2:- same as meal 1
meal 3:- white rice, chicken, salad
meal 4:- white potato,chicken, salad
meal 5:- white rice, chicken,banana
meal 6:- cottage cheese, some nuts (almonds),oats
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07-24-2014, 11:28 AM #12
Drop the dbal and drop the deca . See what the tes does first. Add anastrozole during your cycle how much is up for debate. Me on thatdose of tes would do 1mg a day but I like my estrogen in the lower twenties. Most probly .25 to .5 a day will keep their estrogen at bay. Get some bloods done after about a month and see where your estrogen is at then and adjust as you need. Watching that number is as important as any other results on bw. You look heavier than just 160 so just the tes will do wonders without complicating the cycle time.
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07-24-2014, 11:41 AM #13Junior Member
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ok thanks for advice it will be helpful
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07-24-2014, 11:43 AM #14Senior Member
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Out of all the opinions on the board there is one that is undeniable.
Add one substance at a time so if there is an issue you know which one it is.
I started on test for trt . I added anavar on trt . I then started cycle and added npp....worked my AI dose in. Two weeks later added my next substance. Glad it went like this because tren was a tough substance (not under dosed). Helped me define the issue and fix it with ease.
From a TrT person point of view....if you are not on trt you have no clue how test and estrogen and AI work "for your body". Get that down then move foreword.
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07-24-2014, 01:36 PM #15Junior Member
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so did u add one substance in your every next cycle
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07-24-2014, 07:50 PM #16Junior Member
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Guys and what about my diet is it good or not
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07-24-2014, 07:55 PM #17Junior Member
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i would start a little slower man. im about to run my first cycle. im planning on test cyp 300mg per week.
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07-24-2014, 08:42 PM #18
Do you know your BMR and TDEE? You can then define your macros and track everything you eat. I weigh everything and use an app (my fitness pal) to track my macros.
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07-25-2014, 02:53 AM #19Junior Member
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Yes i know my bmr and tdee and i am taking the food quantity as per that
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07-25-2014, 04:45 AM #20
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07-26-2014, 12:38 AM #21Junior Member
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So what should be a good dose equilibrum
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07-26-2014, 03:17 AM #22
500mg a week.
There is a thread "my first succesful cycle" it's super popular here google it. It ll tell u everything
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07-26-2014, 03:21 AM #23
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07-26-2014, 10:26 PM #24Junior Member
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07-26-2014, 11:35 PM #25
You can. So you have ran dbol for how many weeks? And no tes ? So this will be your first injectable cycle ? If you have ran d for 8 to 10 wks without tes you should know what sides that produced for you. adding tes will eliminate most of the nasties that dbol without tes causes. I don't care for any orals myself. Maybe just the tes this cycle to get the feel and affects established that will better prepare you for adding in deca . After that then the chemistry class will really start with sll the combinations of other compounds you can start thinking about. Adding one compound at a time with tes will allow you to see what results your body yields with what mixes. And your young so you have plenty of time to see what works best for you.
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07-26-2014, 11:46 PM #26
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07-28-2014, 11:21 PM #27Junior Member
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So i have to take only test e as in my first cycle then on next cycle i can add deca . Should i run my first cycle for 10 or 16 weeks which will be better time
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