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Thread: Test E+ NPP Cycle ! Need opinions on proper PCT please

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    Question Test E+ NPP Cycle ! Need opinions on proper PCT please

    How y'all doing?

    I'm thinking of starting my second 12 weeks cycle soon, but before I do I wanna double check with the gurus if I have the right PCT

    I plan on running 600mg/wk Test E and 330mg/wk NPP EOT. I have 10,000 iu of HCG in hand that I plan to run at 500 2x week starting from week 9
    Is 40/40/20/20/10 Nolva and 50/50/50/50/50 clomid for 5 weeks a good approach ?

    I also have Arimidix in hand, but from researching around there are different opinions on whether to run it during the cycle or wait until I feel an itch ?

    All opinions are welcome and any advice is appreciated!

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzzab View Post
    How y'all doing?

    I'm thinking of starting my second 12 weeks cycle soon, but before I do I wanna double check with the gurus if I have the right PCT

    I plan on running 600mg/wk Test E and 330mg/wk NPP EOT. I have 10,000 iu of HCG in hand that I plan to run at 500 2x week starting from week 9
    Is 40/40/20/20/10 Nolva and 50/50/50/50/50 clomid for 5 weeks a good approach ?

    I also have Arimidix in hand, but from researching around there are different opinions on whether to run it during the cycle or wait until I feel an itch ?

    All opinions are welcome and any advice is appreciated!

    Thanks
    Curious as to why you're running NPP with Test E instead of Deca ? Usually you see NPP with Test P not test E.... Why did you choose this cycle?

    What are your Stats?

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    My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle. been posting this link alot lately idk if you guys don't known it exists but go down to pct and you'll find your answer there
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    And why start hCG at wk 9?? Read the above link provided and HCG WHY IT SHOULD BE USED ON CYCLE AND HOW TO PREPARE HCG FOR INJECTIONS... You'll realize your a lil off base on hCG and your AI usage!!! Both are incorrect BTW! You'll get your answers in those links!

    Clomid also should cease at end of wk 4 Nolva can be run longer(6wks)...

    GL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertuzzi View Post
    Curious as to why you're running NPP with Test E instead of Deca ? Usually you see NPP with Test P not test E.... Why did you choose this cycle?

    What are your Stats?
    I was actually thinking of running deca instead but after some research, many people recommended NPP over deca so I decided to give NPP a shot and see how that works !

    I'm 30 years old, 5'11 205 lbs 13% BF, I started competing last year and have been training for 4 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    And why start hCG at wk 9?? Read the above link provided and HCG WHY IT SHOULD BE USED ON CYCLE AND HOW TO PREPARE HCG FOR INJECTIONS... You'll realize your a lil off base on hCG and your AI usage!!! Both are incorrect BTW! You'll get your answers in those links!

    GL!
    I have been getting so many different opinions and at one point I was told It's a waist if I started running HCG at the beginning of my cycle! I will read the link

    Thank you guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzzab View Post
    I was actually thinking of running deca instead but after some research, many people recommended NPP over deca so I decided to give NPP a shot and see how that works !

    I'm 30 years old, 5'11 205 lbs 13% BF, I started competing last year and have been training for 4 years
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    I have been getting so many different opinions and at one point I was told It's a waist if I started running HCG at the beginning of my cycle! I will read the link

    Thank you guys!
    Okay, so based on these 2 statements I think it's safe to say you should probably get some knowledge before cycling. Based on your stats and everything, you're good to go, but your knowledge just isn't there yet.

    When were you planning on starting this cycle?

    What dose NPP were you going to run and how often would you be injecting?

    Also, please read the link that was posted by swolehead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertuzzi View Post
    Okay, so based on these 2 statements I think it's safe to say you should probably get some knowledge before cycling. Based on your stats and everything, you're good to go, but your knowledge just isn't there yet.

    When were you planning on starting this cycle?

    What dose NPP were you going to run and how often would you be injecting?

    Also, please read the link that was posted by swolehead.
    Thanks for the input man! This is what I'm here and asking you guys, I have been reading a lot of different forums and asking different people! I dd read most of the stickies here and other sites but when I ask people and get different answers from what is posted by the mods I get confused and start asking more people

    I have 3 vials of NPP which will give me a total of 4000K
    Based on what I have been reading fe years now I got myself enough HCG to last for 12 weeks but then I was told not to do that!
    I agree that my knowledge is not good when it comes to this but I'm doing my best to get the best advice possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzzab View Post
    Thanks for the input man! This is what I'm here and asking you guys, I have been reading a lot of different forums and asking different people! I dd read most of the stickies here and other sites but when I ask people and get different answers from what is posted by the mods I get confused and start asking more people

    I have 3 vials of NPP which will give me a total of 4000K
    Based on what I have been reading fe years now I got myself enough HCG to last for 12 weeks but then I was told not to do that!
    I agree that my knowledge is not good when it comes to this but I'm doing my best to get the best advice possible
    Okay, I am curious how many injections a week are you planning on doing?? once a week, twice a week? In your original post, were you saying you going to inject npp every 3rd day? Was it also your plan to inject your test every 3 days too??

    I'm honestly confused with your plan.... maybe I missed something, I'm not sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertuzzi View Post
    Okay, I am curious how many injections a week are you planning on doing?? once a week, twice a week? In your original post, were you saying you going to inject npp every 3rd day? Was it also your plan to inject your test every 3 days too??

    I'm honestly confused with your plan.... maybe I missed something, I'm not sure
    Plan is to inject NPP every other day, I know since it is fast acting And a lighter ester people people will usually inject every day just like test prop. And I plan to inject test E twice a week

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzzab View Post
    Plan is to inject NPP every other day, I know since it is fast acting And a lighter ester people people will usually inject every day just like test prop. And I plan to inject test E twice a week
    See and to me this doesn't make much sense... if you ran Deca and Test E you could do both compounds in one injection every 3.5 days. If you're gonna run NPP, why not just run Test P and inject both compounds at the same time EOD??

    Like we've discussed, please do some more research on this site, because this site has some incredible resources with some really smart people. Replan your cycle post it up and we'll give it another go.

    Good Luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertuzzi View Post
    See and to me this doesn't make much sense... if you ran Deca and Test E you could do both compounds in one injection every 3.5 days. If you're gonna run NPP, why not just run Test P and inject both compounds at the same time EOD??

    Like we've discussed, please do some more research on this site, because this site has some incredible resources with some really smart people. Replan your cycle post it up and we'll give it another go.

    Good Luck
    I completely understand your point, I couldn't get my hands on prop so I just decided to use the test E I have from before!

    I really appreciate the advice and the input guys!

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    I've run Test Cyp (long ester like Enth) and NPP with great results. Run your Test E twice a week for 4 weeks. Starting from week 5 pin NPP EOD. That's it. Run through 12 weeks, rest a couple of weeks, and PCT with Nolva and Clomod.
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    Is this your first cycle Muzzab?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Is this your first cycle Muzzab?
    It's my second cycle boss! My first was a low dose cycle though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02 View Post
    I've run Test Cyp (long ester like Enth) and NPP with great results. Run your Test E twice a week for 4 weeks. Starting from week 5 pin NPP EOD. That's it. Run through 12 weeks, rest a couple of weeks, and PCT with Nolva and Clomod.
    Thanks dude!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzzab View Post
    It's my second cycle boss! My first was a low dose cycle though!
    Then why not just follow Austins Successful First Cycle thread and save the NPP for your next one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Then why not just follow Austins Successful First Cycle thread and save the NPP for your next one.
    I don't know when my next cycle will be just because of my demanding job! I started pinning Test e twice a week at 625 mg/week and NPP EOD at 400 mg/week with 0.50 mg of AI every day, HCG at 250 iu twice a week during cycle and then 1000 iu a day for the last 10 days leading to my PCT which will be clomid at 50 mg/day for 5 weeks and Nolva at 40 mg/day for the first 3 weeks and 20 mg/day for 2 weeks

    I appreciate all the advice guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzzab View Post
    I don't know when my next cycle will be just because of my demanding job! I started pinning Test e twice a week at 625 mg/week and NPP EOD at 400 mg/week with 0.50 mg of AI every day, HCG at 250 iu twice a week during cycle and then 1000 iu a day for the last 10 days leading to my PCT which will be clomid at 50 mg/day for 5 weeks and Nolva at 40 mg/day for the first 3 weeks and 20 mg/day for 2 weeks

    I appreciate all the advice guys!
    Hey Muzzab, drop the hCG at that 1000iu dose for 10 days(outdated) and unnecessary when using hCG on cycle(at the reccommend dose - 250iu 2x wkly) up to 3 days prior to PCT!

    And your a-dex fose should start at .25mg EOD/& adjust if needed when mid cycle BW is pulled!

    Also, I would also go w/a simple test only cycle(get your AI dialed in etc)...

    GL!
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    Also look into your PCT... Your clomid can/should cease after 4th wk, Nolva on the other hand can be run longer(6wks if needed)

    For a simple test cycle this is all you'd need:
    Clomid - 75/50/50/50
    Nolva. - 40/40/20/20

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