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01-04-2016, 05:08 AM #1New Member
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FTM Transgender First Cycle HELP
I'm Female to Male Transgender. Which means that I was born female and am currently undergoing HRT to give me the physical attributes of a male. (Let's not make this a debate on my choices. I just want information and some help from people who know more about the subject than I do)
I do weekly injections - 100mg of test cyp. I've been taking T for 2 years and will have to continue for entirety of my life.
Stats:
5'8"
150lbs
14%bf
bulking
I'm starting my first cycle soon and I have some questions!
Here's my plan:
100mg of Tren Enath / week
125mg of test blend (propionate , phenlypropionate, isocaproate, decanoate) /week
along with my normal T injection
for 8 weeks
So my first question is, should I be taking an AI or some sort of E blocker during my cycle since my body converts more to E than your average Joe? If so, what?
And my second question is how should I set up my PCT?
I don't think I'll need a T booster since my T comes from a bottle, so should I just stick with an E blocker. And if so, for how long?
Any Help is much appreciated! Sorry for so many questions but this isn't exactly a common topic on these forums haha Thanks!
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01-04-2016, 08:48 AM #2
I might be wrong if someone answers this question, but you have a special case, isnt this something you would wanna ask your doctor to be sure?
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01-04-2016, 01:36 PM #3
His doc can't advise on Tren or anything else off-label.
OP: it sounds like you have everything figured out already. I'd go with Tren acetate and pin EOD.
As for estrogen, are you currently taking an AI? In what range do you try to keep your E2?
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01-04-2016, 01:49 PM #4
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01-04-2016, 02:46 PM #5
Good for you, Man!
I have a trans friend, and have always wanted to ask what his T dose is. 100/week was my guess...
As for AI, would you be getting pre/during/post bloodwork?
No PCT required, as far as I would think. Just go back to your maintenance dose.
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01-04-2016, 02:57 PM #6
High-five!
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01-04-2016, 03:05 PM #7
Does nobody else realize that this is his first cycle and he's trying to run tren ? Tren e at that, not even tren a.
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01-04-2016, 03:18 PM #8Originally Posted by Bonaparte
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01-04-2016, 03:25 PM #9
Great spot
Read this OP
My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle
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01-04-2016, 04:23 PM #10
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01-04-2016, 05:02 PM #11New Member
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Well my dad (bodybuilder of 20+ years) gave me the tren enath, so I already have it and don't exactly have the option to take it back and ask for something else haha. I was planning on twice weekly injections, is that not often enough?
Currently not taking any AI or E blocker. My dad said he could get me one but he starting name off a bunch, I had only heard of a couple so I told him I would get back to him. I don't know about my E levels either. I'll have to check with my endo next time I get lab work and see.
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01-04-2016, 05:05 PM #12New Member
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Thanks!
And blood work isn't required so as long as I don't set up an appointment to go, then no. I figured it would be smart to avoid it around my cycle so I don't go scaring them and having them change my dosage based off only part of the picture haha
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01-04-2016, 05:23 PM #13New Member
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I don't have insurance right now so a doctors visit isn't the easiest thing to pull off. And if I do go, he's legally required to tell me not to **** with steroids haha
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01-04-2016, 05:48 PM #14
Ok, now I'm a little concerned that you're doing this all willy-nilly. You need to look at your past lab work and figure out what E2 range makes you feel ok (being that you're a biological female, higher estrogen levels will make you feel better, but the lower you ho the more masculinization you'll experience.
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01-04-2016, 10:01 PM #15
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01-05-2016, 12:53 AM #18
Just because you have been given Tren E doesnt mean you HAVE to consume it.
Tren is usualy used at cycle 4 or 5 and some people even later. Its a strong steroid , one of the strongest and not to be messed with.
You need to learn how your body will react to steroids and its best using others first. Read the sticky i posted
Keep your tren for future cycles (they last a lot longer after their expiry dates so dont worry)
Use the testosterone only, if you dont want your father to be insulted about not using the tren just dont tell him.
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01-06-2016, 12:26 AM #19New Member
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I'm not sure how to get my hands on that stuff, I haven't had lab work in so long it probably wouldn't be accurate anyway. The general consensus here seems to be that I should drop the tren and just go with the test blend and an AI for my first cycle. That sounds like a safer plan to me
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01-06-2016, 12:27 AM #20New Member
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Sounds good. Thanks man!
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01-06-2016, 12:28 AM #21New Member
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I'm gonna skip the tren and stick to test and an AI for this cycle. Thanks for the help!
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01-06-2016, 12:35 AM #22New Member
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I'm going to drop tren and just do my regular T shots along with the test blend and letrozole for my first cycle.
I definitely will be in the gym and following a diet plan. That's what I've been doing for a while and have seen results but given my circumstance it's hard to pack on the muscle that I want with that alone. I don't want to do anything to screw myself up this early so thanks for the advice. I feel a lot more confident now in what I'm doing.Last edited by TT400; 10-20-2016 at 05:42 AM.
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01-06-2016, 01:00 AM #23New Member
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I read through the article before posting this actually, and skimmed through a gain when you suggested it. It was helpful but my questions were pretty person-specific so that's why I felt the need to post.
I've decided to only do the test blend along with my normal T shots and letrozole for this cycle. I basically didn't want to ask my dad for something else and risk coming off as rude. He's been lifting since before I was born so I'm not trying to act like I know more than him. I'll just stick to the new plan and keep it to myself haha thanks for the advice!
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01-06-2016, 02:55 AM #24
Good luck keep us updated of your progress.
good decision to drop the tren , its not required.
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01-06-2016, 02:56 AM #25Associate Member
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I'm no expert on the pituitary axis but you need to get some clarification on the AI; Assuming your in your transition you still have ovary etc; testosterone can shut down oestrogen production from these and the adrenals (the little hormones
produced there) maybe others can pitch in with clarification; you definitely want to be 100% so your transition is continued and not complicated.
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