Balls shrunk during cycle what do I do?

[shsgrizzly]

background
5ft 4
been lifting since 14
started gear when I was 18 and have done a few light cycles
light meaning they didnt cause my balls to shrink
I love running dbol and test E
my cycle layout out 1.5 ml 300mg deca one a week 3ml 250 test E once a week 50mg dbol before workout everyday sometimes 25
this is the first time my balls shrank, I dont know why on my other cycles my balls were fine.
I know I was stupid for stating AAS at 18 but theres no going back now as I am almot 19 and have been using gear the whole time with little breaks
The main reason I started steroids though is I have ma mild case of cerebal palsy which makes my legs weak, but I can still run and lift weights but its hard for them to grow so I thought AAS would help with my disability and it does.I am very luck in the fact I can socialize and be a semi normal person because some people with cerebalpalsy are in wheel chairs and cannot speak.

Back to my question what should I do my balls shrunk and its 4 weeks in the cycle out of 12
I am petty sure I have testicular atrophy,what should I do?
I know now I should have taken HCG during my cycle.
is there any way to restore testicular function during a cycle?
how long can testicular atrophy be put off without long term damage?

[Capebuffalo]

background
5ft 4
been lifting since 14
started gear when I was 18 and have done a few light cycles
light meaning they didnt cause my balls to shrink
I love running dbol and test E
my cycle layout out 1.5 ml 300mg deca one a week 3ml 250 test E once a week 50mg dbol before workout everyday sometimes 25
this is the first time my balls shrank, I dont know why on my other cycles my balls were fine.
I know I was stupid for stating AAS at 18 but theres no going back now as I am almot 19 and have been using gear the whole time with little breaks
The main reason I started steroids though is I have ma mild case of cerebal palsy which makes my legs weak, but I can still run and lift weights but its hard for them to grow so I thought AAS would help with my disability and it does.I am very luck in the fact I can socialize and be a semi normal person because some people with cerebalpalsy are in wheel chairs and cannot speak.

Back to my question what should I do my balls shrunk and its 4 weeks in the cycle out of 12
I am petty sure I have testicular atrophy,what should I do?
I know now I should have taken HCG during my cycle.
is there any way to restore testicular function during a cycle?
how long can testicular atrophy be put off without long term damage?

Start pct an hcg now. Stop taking deca and test. Search power pct on this sight.

[PistolPete33]

Reading your post I was thinking you were possibly in your 20's because you said you started AAS at 18. Then, you admit that you're STILL 18. WTF

Way too young but damage is done. Your balls may never recover. You are very young and esp. running such high amounts for such a long time. It is likely you may never recover.

Do as Capebuffalo said and start it today. You don't want a lifetime of E.D. and sexual side effects. Your HPTA is pretty much at its peak right now and shutting it down is just stupid.

[Mr.BB]

Your best option is getting used to small balls IMHO.

[PT1982]

Face palm... you got solid advice buddy. Stick to it and you'll be fine.

Edit- and as Mr BB said..... lol. Tis truth!

[shsgrizzly]

so just stop then?
what about all the gear i still have ?

[shsgrizzly]

what about never coming off gear some people pull it off?

[shsgrizzly]

Start pct an hcg now. Stop taking deca and test. Search power pct on this sight.

I couldnt find it
can you post the link

[Marcus G]

what about never coming off gear some people pull it off?

I hope that was a joke?

[shsgrizzly]

ill take your guys advice and quite till i am 23
is Pheedno's PCT a good option?
Also I wait 2 weeks since my last pin before I start my PCT
I think I will follow Pheedno's PCT plan

[Obs]

what about never coming off gear some people pull it off?

The ones that do get new kidneys at 35 and die of a heart attack at 40.

[PT1982]

I hope that was a joke?

Bwhahahaha!

[PT1982]

The ones that do get new kidneys at 35 and die of a heart attack at 40.

But if the Dr's know or suspect self inflicted kidney damage due to AAS use, good luck with that new kidney. They'll give it to someone that will put it to good use 100% of the time. Dialysis for you.

[Obs]

But if the Dr's know or suspect self inflicted kidney damage due to AAS use, good luck with that new kidney. They'll give it to someone that will put it to good use 100% of the time. Dialysis for you.

There is a sad list of ifbb guys that died of kidney liver and heart failure. They paid the price for trying to be the best at any cost.

[Couchlock]

Lmao.

"Yo ball shrizunk, at age 18. You might be able to get it up now, but wait till your 25, bald, and been limo for 3 years straight"

Cuzz you knew it all

Lesson,learned, you fast forward you sexual development all the way from 18 to 89.

[shsgrizzly]

why not just finish my 12week cycle so the gear doesnt go to waste?
Is my cycle bad?
worst things that could happen by putting it off till I finish my cycle
I am pretty sure I am going to stop and start again when I am older but I am curious

[Couchlock]

why not just finish my 12week cycle so the gear doesnt go to waste?
Is my cycle bad?
worst things that could happen by putting it off till I finish my cycle
I am pretty sure I am going to stop and start again when I am older but I am curious

"My boy said to run deca at onset of puberty, he's like 16 now benching 550, in 4th grade he did 250, ill,listen to him cuzz he's da man at the high school football games"....

[Marcus G]

why not just finish my 12week cycle so the gear doesnt go to waste?
Is my cycle bad?
worst things that could happen by putting it off till I finish my cycle
I am pretty sure I am going to stop and start again when I am older but I am curious

Worst things: small balls for life, low testosterone (which could cause depression), not been able to have kids, not been able to get an erection. The list goes on if your not going to listen and take the advice because you know best, why ask the question in the first place?

[hollywoodundead2016]

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[shsgrizzly]

I am going to see my doctor to see if he can help fix the mess I got myself into
I fucked up big time
thanks for the advice guys no more AAS for me
I am worried about depression when i come off though
and do I just train normal when I am on PTC

[hollywoodundead2016]

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[Couchlock]

Just my opinion but i would cruise on TRT for a few months then re-evaluate. Coming off completely is gonna be very very hard on your mind and cause some depression for sure. Not worth it imo. Just my opinion though. Im sure people will destroy me for recommending you blast/cruise as opposed to cycling. I went about a year without hcg taking a shitpile of steroids. After ONE 500 IU hcg shot subq i was amazed at how effectively it started reversing the testicular atrophy. About a year later and my balls are almost back to full size. From people in the know ive been told its best to blast at 400-500 mg per week of test or higher and cruise at 400-500 mg per week of test to as low as a trt dose. If you want to get out of this i recommend seeing an endocrinologist and looking into Dr. Michael Scallys power of the pct. A good doctor and pct regimen and your natty test levels SHOULD come back but its not a guarantee.

This is the advice that got him all fucked up

Shush nincompoop


Blast at 400-500
Cruise at 400-500 ?????

You don't even know how to give correct incorrect advice

[hollywoodundead2016]

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[Mr.BB]

I get all my advice from powerlifter George Leeman. Take that how you want lmao. As for this guy if he wants to come off he needs to see an endocrinologist period. End of story. I am NOT recommending trt. Im just telling him that coming off will inevitably cause some depression. I chose blast/cruise over cycling. Dumb choice? perhaps but i gotta stick with it now. Its too late to go back. I know some guys who cruise on 1 g lol. BTW an endocrinologist can do a test to see if its possible to get your hpta back functioning again before you make the decision to come off completely.

Yeah, powerlifters are notorious endocrinologists, all of them. Its truth, its truth, you know it!

"Im just telling him that coming off will inevitably cause some depression." -> How do you know this?? You got some sort of crystal ball where you see the future? Not everybody feels depressed cause of hormones. Stop saying nonsense please.

[kelkel]

BTW an endocrinologist can do a test to see if its possible to get your hpta back functioning again before you make the decision to come off completely.

And what test might this be?

[Couchlock]

And what test might this be?

Its the paper elbow test.

The endo writes these 3 words on paper;

I
WE
TOD
IT
the he asks you to look right and try to bite your left ear, while holding your right arm neck height.

Then he compares you to some silhouettes of folks with extra chromosomes.

If you match the silhouette, you can't be fixed

[Marcus G]

I am going to see my doctor to see if he can help fix the mess I got myself into
I fucked up big time
thanks for the advice guys no more AAS for me
I am worried about depression when i come off though
and do I just train normal when I am on PTC

I didn't mean to scare you with the depression thing but it can happen that is why i mentioned it. I also belive younger people are more at risk of it occurring because of the chance of permanent low t. You should see a doctor but be aware some are clueless and an endocrinologist is your best bet.

[hollywoodundead2016]

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[Sh0tsf1red]

background
5ft 4
been lifting since 14
started gear when I was 18 and have done a few light cycles
light meaning they didnt cause my balls to shrink
I love running dbol and test E
my cycle layout out 1.5 ml 300mg deca one a week 3ml 250 test E once a week 50mg dbol before workout everyday sometimes 25
this is the first time my balls shrank, I dont know why on my other cycles my balls were fine.
I know I was stupid for stating AAS at 18 but theres no going back now as I am almot 19 and have been using gear the whole time with little breaks
The main reason I started steroids though is I have ma mild case of cerebal palsy which makes my legs weak, but I can still run and lift weights but its hard for them to grow so I thought AAS would help with my disability and it does.I am very luck in the fact I can socialize and be a semi normal person because some people with cerebalpalsy are in wheel chairs and cannot speak.

Back to my question what should I do my balls shrunk and its 4 weeks in the cycle out of 12
I am petty sure I have testicular atrophy,what should I do?
I know now I should have taken HCG during my cycle.
is there any way to restore testicular function during a cycle?
how long can testicular atrophy be put off without long term damage?

Cut them off they are useless! LOL just kidding!

[hollywoodundead2016]

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[shsgrizzly]

went to the doctor, hess gonna test my deca test and dbal and see if they are real
he says get my blood work done in two weeks cause my last injection was monday and it takes about 2 weeks to clear out of your body with test E
if my test level are low after doing the blood work in two weeks he says he will give me HCG 3 times a week
I asked him about clomid he says he thinks it doest work
he was very optimistic and thinks I can get my test levels back to normal
he said I might not get my gear back but thats fine by me I dont plan on using gear until I am 23 or 25 or maybe never again

[shsgrizzly]

Also please warn anyone thinking about using gear at age 18 or before 23 so they dont fuck up like I did or refer them to this post

[hollywoodundead2016]

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[charger69]

starting steroids at age 20 is probably fine. its just doing them before that age that is beyond idiotic to me. at the end of the day its your choice. hope things work out well for you man. the balls shrinking can be reversed if you take hcg 250 iu 2x/wk subq. you wont get them 100% back but pretty darn close.

Hollywood your advice is bordering on dangerous and you should stop altogether giving advice. It is NOT probably fine at 20 to start AAS.
AAS is a risk at any age. It is exponentially worse under 25. Your HPTA is not fully developed and you are shutting down your system. Imagine what happens to the growth. The effects in some cases are immediately seen and sometimes it takes time.
Being low on test is not fun in your 40's -50's, imagine in your 20's.

[hollywoodundead2016]

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[Marcus G]

starting steroids at age 20 is probably fine. its just doing them before that age that is beyond idiotic to me. at the end of the day its your choice. hope things work out well for you man. the balls shrinking can be reversed if you take hcg 250 iu 2x/wk subq. you wont get them 100% back but pretty darn close.

Poor advice hcg actually negatively effects the HPTA by suppressing natural LH so it may rise t levels white you use it but actually make recovery harder once you come off.

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