Should caber be ran on low test prop/tren ace cycle

[ns9797]

Wanting to know if caber should be ran with test prop, tren ace cycle? I’m already on 1mg arimidex a day eod and tamxiofen 20mg eod Prescribed for gyno puffy nips. Reason for tamoxifen eod instead of ed is the low igf because I have a deficiency and I am on gh with still low normal range levels at 6iu

Test prop 50mg eod
Tren ace 75mg eod
Tamoxifen 20mg eod
Arimidex 1mg eod
Test cyp 100mg a week- trt prescription

[ShootingAcez]

What stands out most from what I just read, was that you're taking 1MG of ARIMIDEX EOD. That's insanely high for the amount of gear you're on. You're going to crash your E2 VERY fast with that dose.

Your first line of defence is going to be to control your E2, however, you're crashing it with that dose. Depending on how you aromatize, you may not even need an AI. I wouldn't need one at that Test dose. Being on Tren , which greatly increases your IGF-1, taking 10mg/day of Nolvadex should be fine.

You could very well get by with no AI, 10mg/day of Nolvadex, and only if prolactin issues start to arise, go on Caber.

[ns9797]

When staying on Nolvadex it seems to be dropping my igf big time vs when not taking it. I guess with the tren it should counteract it. My body just doesn’t like gh and yes my e2 is low. With the arimidex it’s just to small to break it up it seems. Any suggestions with the timing of the
Nolvadex and gh since I take 3 shots of 2iu a day
Morning/pw/before bed? Thanks

Or is there anything else that could be swapped instead of novaldex?

[HDThunder]

What you mean the Adex is too small to break up? Just about everyone breaks them into quarters with a pill cutter or razor blade. I take .25mg Adex 2x/week on 800mg of test. And I'm not even sure I need that much.

[GearHeaded]

When staying on Nolvadex it seems to be dropping my igf big time vs when not taking it.

its not the Nolva thats crashing your IGF .. its your lack of estrogen (which is a critical component to producing IGF in the liver). AND you think Tren is going to help you produce more IGF, yet your taking that much AI to crash your estrogen, but you need to keep in mind that Tren only increases your IGF through the Estrogen mechanism of action (it doesn't do it alone or without estrogen).

I repeat , Tren does NOT increase IGF on its own, its only through the estrogen mechanism that it can increase IGF levels.

also, your HGH is likely not going to produce near as much IGF either with your Estrogen levels crashed.

its sounds like your trying to build a house without any construction materials . you need to stop crushing your estrogen if you want elevated IGF levels and you want to gain muscle

[ns9797]

What would you suggest to reduce my puffy nips

[GearHeaded]

What would you suggest to reduce my puffy nips

20mg per day of Nolva combined with at least 350mg per week of Masteron (mast means 'breast' , Masteron is going to blunt both estrogen and progestin receptors in breast tissue)

note: your "puffy nips" may simply be due to hormone flux in your body which is very common for new AAS users. it may not be estrogenic onset of gyno at all . but better safe then sorry

[ns9797]

With just being on
Tren ace 75mg eod
Test prop 50 eod
TRT test cyp 100mg week

Is any ai or serm needed or just keep on hand?

[kelkel]

With just being on
Tren ace 75mg eod
Test prop 50 eod
TRT test cyp 100mg week

Is any ai or serm needed or just keep on hand?

GH answered your question above. You don't need an AI but at a bare minimum you need Nolva.

[Ashop]

What would you suggest to reduce my puffy nips

Get some bloodwork done. Find the problem and then treat it appropriately. Otherwise, its just a guessing game.