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Thread: Run out of gear at week 8. Have i fucked up?

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    Run out of gear at week 8.

    I’m on test e and boldenenon. Pharmacom 300 brand.

    So I actually thought his was the end of week 9 but checking this is the end of week 8.

    I think basically I’ve been injecting more than I shuld as today I had .6 ml bold and .7ml test e which I just put into the syringe and injected.

    I think as I’ve been pulling back on the syringe to get to half a mil, maybe the extra bit at the tip of the syringe accounts for another .1/.2 ml?

    Anyway this was my first cycle that’s why it’s so little.
    I’m thinking to just finishe here and count it as an 8 week cycle?
    Or should I buy another vial if each for just for the next two week? Or maybe buy another vial of each and wxtend to 12 or something?

    What’s best? Have I messed up by not haveing my dosages exact?
    Could the vials be short?
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    Well, that depends on a number or factors.
    Were you still making gains at the end? Or u felt like the weight was stuck on a certain point? And how quick can u get more gear?
    If u were still making progress and gains and can get more gear fairly quick (within the week), then you could extend for another 4 weeks.
    If not, and you have all your PCT at hand, you need to wait around 2 weeks since u were using a long Ester and then start your PCT.
    It doesn't hurt to get a second opinion from some of the highly experienced guys here as well.

    Also, no need to panic, just stay calm and all should be alright. I mean, you didn't mention that u r feeling like shit or anything went wrong so far so that's always a good sign.

    Thanks and good luck
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    No, you didn’t get fucked up. But now you’ve learnt that you should always plan your cycle carefully and have everything on hand from the start.
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    The thing is I did plan I just didn’t execute lol. They were 10ml vials for 10 weeks.
    I can get relatively easily, I’d be able to get by Monday for sure.

    And yeah I’m feeling great looking good. Complements from everywhere and thinking about going up half a shirt size.
    Slow steady keepable gainz is what I was after for my first run and that’s what I got (hopefully keepable too!). A good entry I feel.
    I rekon I could keep gaining little but also thinking to just stop here. This way my next cycle can come around quicker lol.

    Instead of ten weeks at like 300 I’ve done at 8 weeks at most probley 330/350.
    But at the back of my head I’m hearing 8 weeks isn’t enough for such a mild cycle..
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    hi... im curious how many vials did you buy im thinking just one and if that's the case then you didn't account for the gear that is lost in the needle if you were not putting a bit of air in the pin so it pushes all the gear in you...even doing that I still lose about a ml each vial buy the time it is done...something to think about in the future...

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    That sounds like a pretty weak cycle. Better off learning more and what the fuck is a half shirt size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    That sounds like a pretty weak cycle. Better off learning more and what the fuck is a half shirt size.
    Large and a half... You didn't know that???
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    If you run out of gear before your cycle is done then you fucked up. Was that your question?
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    Even 10 weeks isnt enough for eq. I didnt feel eq hit til 9 weeks. Run it for atleast 12-14 weeks. Get more vials. 8 weeks of long ester compounds is alot of truama on your endocrine system for not enough reward.

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    sounds like you may have only had one bottle of EQ.. umm thats not enough to cycle with. thats about 2 weeks worth supply for most guys (for some guys one bottle is a single front loaded dose). you needed 6 or so bottles for a proper cycle of EQ.

    you likely shut yourself down for very little gains. a first time cycle can generally put on 15-20 pounds. One bottle of EQ isn't going to do the trick. instead of going into PCT at this point , I'd switch over to running some faster acting esters and add an oral in and at least get something out all this (eg, Test prop and Dbol ) while your shut down anyhow.
    your body is already used to exogenous test, being you've been injecting in. so test prop will work just fine getting your levels up much higher much quicker.. also your body is already used to the chemical structure of Dbol (being you been injecting EQ, which is just the non alkalated form of Dbol). those two compounds are essentially already in your system. so test prop and dbol will be a fast way to ramp up what you been doing and at least get some gains out of all this before PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    sounds like you may have only had one bottle of EQ.. umm thats not enough to cycle with. thats about 2 weeks worth supply for most guys (for some guys one bottle is a single front loaded dose). you needed 6 or so bottles for a proper cycle of EQ.

    you likely shut yourself down for very little gains. a first time cycle can generally put on 15-20 pounds. One bottle of EQ isn't going to do the trick. instead of going into PCT at this point , I'd switch over to running some faster acting esters and add an oral in and at least get something out all this (eg, Test prop and Dbol ) while your shut down anyhow.
    your body is already used to exogenous test, being you've been injecting in. so test prop will work just fine getting your levels up much higher much quicker.. also your body is already used to the chemical structure of Dbol (being you been injecting EQ, which is just the non alkalated form of Dbol). those two compounds are essentially already in your system. so test prop and dbol will be a fast way to ramp up what you been doing and at least get some gains out of all this before PCT.
    Arnie, great advice for you up there. GH, respects man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlearnie View Post
    I’m on test e and boldenenon. Pharmacom 300 brand.

    So I actually thought his was the end of week 9 but checking this is the end of week 8.

    I think basically I’ve been injecting more than I shuld as today I had .6 ml bold and .7ml test e which I just put into the syringe and injected.

    I think as I’ve been pulling back on the syringe to get to half a mil, maybe the extra bit at the tip of the syringe accounts for another .1/.2 ml?

    Anyway this was my first cycle that’s why it’s so little.
    I’m thinking to just finishe here and count it as an 8 week cycle?
    Or should I buy another vial if each for just for the next two week? Or maybe buy another vial of each and wxtend to 12 or something?

    What’s best? Have I messed up by not haveing my dosages exact?
    Could the vials be short?
    What do you have lined up for PCT? Have you been running HCG ?

    If answers are no prolly wanna start the scramble to get on that too broski

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octaneforce View Post
    Even 10 weeks isnt enough for eq. I didnt feel eq hit til 9 weeks. Run it for atleast 12-14 weeks. Get more vials. 8 weeks of long ester compounds is alot of truama on your endocrine system for not enough reward.
    I kinda felt it pretty much straight away I thought. I think this cause I’m not really hungry no more. I’m either no hungry or starving lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeCee112 View Post
    What do you have lined up for PCT? Have you been running HCG ?

    If answers are no prolly wanna start the scramble to get on that too broski

    Hcg 250 iu twice a week. Chlomid and nolva for Oct. bought everything at the same time

    Quote Originally Posted by Octaneforce View Post
    Even 10 weeks isnt enough for eq. I didnt feel eq hit til 9 weeks. Run it for atleast 12-14 weeks. Get more vials. 8 weeks of long ester compounds is alot of truama on your endocrine system for not enough reward.
    I kinda felt it pretty much straight away I thought. I think this cause I’m not really hungry no more. I’m either no hungry or starving lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    sounds like you may have only had one bottle of EQ.. umm thats not enough to cycle with. thats about 2 weeks worth supply for most guys (for some guys one bottle is a single front loaded dose). you needed 6 or so bottles for a proper cycle of EQ.

    you likely shut yourself down for very little gains. a first time cycle can generally put on 15-20 pounds. One bottle of EQ isn't going to do the trick. instead of going into PCT at this point , I'd switch over to running some faster acting esters and add an oral in and at least get something out all this (eg, Test prop and Dbol ) while your shut down anyhow.
    your body is already used to exogenous test, being you've been injecting in. so test prop will work just fine getting your levels up much higher much quicker.. also your body is already used to the chemical structure of Dbol (being you been injecting EQ, which is just the non alkalated form of Dbol). those two compounds are essentially already in your system. so test prop and dbol will be a fast way to ramp up what you been doing and at least get some gains out of all this before PCT.
    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    sounds like you may have only had one bottle of EQ.. umm thats not enough to cycle with. thats about 2 weeks worth supply for most guys (for some guys one bottle is a single front loaded dose). you needed 6 or so bottles for a proper cycle of EQ.

    you likely shut yourself down for very little gains. a first time cycle can generally put on 15-20 pounds. One bottle of EQ isn't going to do the trick. instead of going into PCT at this point , I'd switch over to running some faster acting esters and add an oral in and at least get something out all this (eg, Test prop and Dbol) while your shut down anyhow.
    your body is already used to exogenous test, being you've been injecting in. so test prop will work just fine getting your levels up much higher much quicker.. also your body is already used to the chemical structure of Dbol (being you been injecting EQ, which is just the non alkalated form of Dbol). those two compounds are essentially already in your system. so test prop and dbol will be a fast way to ramp up what you been doing and at least get some gains out of all this before PCT.

    I was gonna go 500 test e for ten weeks as it’s my first cycle but the guy I buy from told me better like this.
    10ml test e and 10ml boldenon. 1 ml each a week.

    I’m up 9 pounds, down in bf and nearly up a shirt size I’ve been quite happy.

    So you think extend with test prop and dbol (tabs)? How comes test prop and not e? How long?

    I haven’t been taking any ai or nolva as I haven’t needed for what I’ve been taking.

    What should I change if I get the test and dbol.

    I have to deceive by Saturday afternoon as it’s when I can get the gear before Monday.

    Oh and drop the eq (your saying switch for dbol tabs yh?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    That sounds like a pretty weak cycle. Better off learning more and what the fuck is a half shirt size.
    It was the plan, a weak first cycle...

    In UK shirt sizes are 14/14.5/15/15.5/16 etc

    So half a shirt size up for me would be 15.5 - 16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlearnie View Post
    It was the plan, a weak first cycle...

    In UK shirt sizes are 14/14.5/15/15.5/16 etc

    So half a shirt size up for me would be 15.5 - 16
    Boom! Take that! There are half sizes

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    You mean neck size? That’s not a shirt size though really only the neck measurement. I’m a 19” neck but this only applies to dress shirts I can’t imagine they sell t-shirts in .5 sizes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    You mean neck size? That’s not a shirt size though really only the neck measurement. I’m a 19” neck but this only applies to dress shirts I can’t imagine they sell t-shirts in .5 sizes.
    That’s what I mean by shirt, a shirt shirt not a t shirt lol....
    I wear shirt & trousers for work. Can barely do my top button up though, I’d have to be 16 if I did..

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    Anyway I’ve just bought more of the same. Didn’t want to get new substance that I don’t know how to correctly dose. Plus it’s meant to be simple..

    I got another vial of each so I’m gonna extend to 12-16 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlearnie View Post
    I was gonna go 500 test e for ten weeks as it’s my first cycle but the guy I buy from told me better like this.
    10ml test e and 10ml boldenon. 1 ml each a week.

    I’m up 9 pounds, down in bf and nearly up a shirt size I’ve been quite happy.

    So you think extend with test prop and dbol (tabs)? How comes test prop and not e? How long?

    I haven’t been taking any ai or nolva as I haven’t needed for what I’ve been taking.

    What should I change if I get the test and dbol.

    I have to deceive by Saturday afternoon as it’s when I can get the gear before Monday.

    Oh and drop the eq (your saying switch for dbol tabs yh?)
    don't take advice from a person selling gear. Their job is to sell product, so they are going to say whatever is the most $$$ and highest margins..that should be common sense ...

    Judging by the questions you've asked and planning you've done, there is a knowledge gap. I would read the stickies and educational threads so that you can be successful when coming off gear and in future cycles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    don't take advice from a person selling gear. Their job is to sell product, so they are going to say whatever is the most $$$ and highest margins..that should be common sense ...

    Judging by the questions you've asked and planning you've done, there is a knowledge gap. I would read the stickies and educational threads so that you can be successful when coming off gear and in future cycles.
    Hmmm, I was gonna go test only @500, it would have cost me more as test vials are more expensive than eq vials. So what he recommended cost less (marginally).
    Plus he owns the gym and has pictures of all the bb comps he won in the 70s plasters up on the walls....

    I’ve also read every sticky on this site, understanding it all though is a different story. The absolute beginner sticky made me postpone my cycle nearly a year.

    I don’t deny there’s a knowledge gap at all. i Read a lot it’s just the understanding. I ask a lot of questions that I have have already asked to get different opinions. It’s crazy how different people on here think to people I ask in my gym.

    One thing I was told today is you rarely get 10 mls in 10 ml vials. If I knew that I would have bought two from the beginning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlearnie View Post
    One thing I was told today is you rarely get 10 mls in 10 ml vials. If I knew that I would have bought two from the beginning.
    even if you somehow magically get 11 ml out of a 10ml vial,, you still never buy just one something as silly as half way through your cycle you drop the vial on the marble floor while getting ready to inject and it shatters . wouldn't you want another vial there ready to go just in case
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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlearnie View Post
    Hmmm, I was gonna go test only @500, it would have cost me more as test vials are more expensive than eq vials. So what he recommended cost less (marginally).
    Plus he owns the gym and has pictures of all the bb comps he won in the 70s plasters up on the walls....

    I’ve also read every sticky on this site, understanding it all though is a different story. The absolute beginner sticky made me postpone my cycle nearly a year.

    I don’t deny there’s a knowledge gap at all. i Read a lot it’s just the understanding. I ask a lot of questions that I have have already asked to get different opinions. It’s crazy how different people on here think to people I ask in my gym.

    One thing I was told today is you rarely get 10 mls in 10 ml vials. If I knew that I would have bought two from the beginning.
    For future cycles but what you need with 1-2 vial extra it will account for mistakes like incorrect math or butterfingers dropping a vial. Also always possible for gear to be damaged in transit. Gear may also crash after being brewed. Lots of labs will replace crashed gear for people who aren't confident fixing it.

    In terms of price, cycling is an expensive hobby. A seized package never gets to your door and fake gear is never fun either. When managing budget, Spend what you can afford to lose.
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    Well I bought another vial of test and bold. I’ll just extend to 16 weeks I guess. I was thinking 12-16 as I bought another vial but I guess I may as well use it all up. Though about increasing dose but don’t wanna mess things up.

    So it will be test and eq @ 300 pw. Half mil mon/thirs of each. Along with hcg at 250ius. For 16 weeks, most likely!

    I have a spare hcg so i guess I’ll mix that up soon as I know the hcg don’t last forever.

    Plus I have the nolva and chlomid for Pct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlearnie View Post
    Well I bought another vial of test and bold. I’ll just extend to 16 weeks I guess. I was thinking 12-16 as I bought another vial but I guess I may as well use it all up. Though about increasing dose but don’t wanna mess things up.

    So it will be test and eq @ 300 pw. Half mil mon/thirs of each. Along with hcg at 250ius. For 16 weeks, most likely!

    I have a spare hcg so i guess I’ll mix that up soon as I know the hcg don’t last forever.

    Plus I have the nolva and chlomid for Pct.
    Hcg will last a few years unmixed in the fridge.

    Once mixed is when the countdown starts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Hcg will last a few years unmixed in the fridge.

    Once mixed is when the countdown starts
    Yh that’s what I mean. I got two boxes of 5000iu. I mixed one with bac water about 7 weeks ago.
    It the stickies it says it can last 90 days but elsewhere seems to state it degrades quicker :/?

    So I’ll just mix the other box to be sure. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlearnie View Post
    I’m on test e and boldenenon. Pharmacom 300 brand.

    So I actually thought his was the end of week 9 but checking this is the end of week 8.

    I think basically I’ve been injecting more than I shuld as today I had .6 ml bold and .7ml test e which I just put into the syringe and injected.

    I think as I’ve been pulling back on the syringe to get to half a mil, maybe the extra bit at the tip of the syringe accounts for another .1/.2 ml?

    Anyway this was my first cycle that’s why it’s so little.
    I’m thinking to just finishe here and count it as an 8 week cycle?
    Or should I buy another vial if each for just for the next two week? Or maybe buy another vial of each and wxtend to 12 or something?

    What’s best? Have I messed up by not haveing my dosages exact?
    Could the vials be short?
    I would finish it at 8 weeks and go into PCT. Plan better next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashop View Post
    I would finish it at 8 weeks and go into PCT. Plan better next time.
    This advice is about two weeks too late!
    I’m guessing you didn’t read further, basically I bought more and decided go 14-16 weeks.

    For me it’s very easy to get what I need...

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