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12-12-2019, 07:02 PM #1Junior Member
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Total cost of a Test E cycle?
What are the total costs of the:
Test E-
AI-
HCG -
PCT meds-
Needles/syringes-
Total=__
Wondering the total breakdown, thanks.
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12-12-2019, 07:38 PM #2BANNED
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a couple of bottles of test will cost you $70. syringes around 20$
thats it . your done .
sure add the PCT drugs in if thats your plan, add the HCG in , fuck the AI (that will cost you a pretty penny).. but all those things are whats going to cost you and cost you 3x the amount of your entire cycle (Nolva isn't that pricey though)
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a weeks worth of food is going to cost you more then the AAS
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12-12-2019, 08:54 PM #4
If you worry about the cost, never come live in Australia if you going to buy local
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12-13-2019, 12:12 AM #5Junior Member
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12-13-2019, 12:14 AM #6Junior Member
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12-13-2019, 06:24 AM #7
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Test cycle - hundred bucks
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12-13-2019, 08:44 AM #9
you just don't need it. Here's a thread about it from a few days ago.
https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...nhibitors.html
Can easily be done for $200 that's plenty of test, pct, and syringes.
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12-13-2019, 10:08 AM #13
Have you priced lean ground beef/steak lately? Fuck, even chicken is sky fucking through the roof here. Much more cost efficient to buy chicken and eggs in bulk. Rice also is cheap as fuck. The beef seems to be the highest price of the three major meats.
As for the testosterone it wont be that much ...I personally dont use an AI anymore i will run masteron or if things get real bad which they rarely do with mast i might take some nolvadex ...the less shit i have to put in my body the better off my body is thats just how i feel.
Id say your cycle would be 300 or less down to the alcohol swaps and syringes.
Is this your first cycle? If so id run test e/c for 12-14 weeks around 600mg pin 2x week
If you develop water retention or puffyness in the nipps, run nolva 10mg ed and/or mast p 50 mg eod or mast e 100mg with your test e/c injections.
In short, the cost of your cycle itself would not be much concern...quality rest/food along with an intense (if you have built up to that hopefully you have) workout regime. Good luck
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12-13-2019, 10:34 AM #14
Lol. If you can't afford the gear, you can't afford the food needed to grow.
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12-13-2019, 10:40 AM #15
With ANY cycle you do, food should cost WAY more than the cycle. With a test only cycle, the gear should be a drop in the bucket. Nolva, pct drugs, and HCG will probably cost more than the gear itself. And whatever you need to help with BP and acne. All of that combined will still cost probably less than a couple weeks worth of food
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12-13-2019, 04:22 PM #16Junior Member
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12-13-2019, 04:52 PM #18Associate Member
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Total cost of a Test E cycle?
Hard to ascertain seriousness.
Rice > potatoes
Legumes = tons of protein
What do you weigh? What are your goals if you cycle? Everyone here explaining real food (meat, ideally red) is what it takes for real growth.
Not a slam to OP but I’m starting to think all this mass marketing vegan tofu impossible burger crap is beginning to twist people.
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I know loads of super yolked people who eat no red meat. I don't know why you think it takes saturated fat to build muscle. Protein is the important component, and red meat is nowhere near the highest level of protein per lb. And iron can be had from many sources.
Potatoes? Seriously? 100g of baked potato has 93 calories and 2.5g of protein, 100g of brown rice has 111 calories. 100g of lentils has 116 calories, and 18g protein, 36% of daily iron. Sooo...
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the protein in Legumes are incomplete proteins.. beans also contain anti nutrients. your not even absorbing the protein in your beans Sherlock
most people don't even count protein in beans cause of this. if I send a client a diet that has 300g of Protein factored in, ALL 300g of that is coming from meat or eggs or whey or casein (ie, animal products) . if he adds beans into one meal and counts that as carbs and fiber, then thats fine. but he is not counting the protein.
also . saturated fats with protein from animal meats are the building blocks of cells and hormones. also why fats make up the majority of calories in female breast milk. cause thats helping provide the essentials for the infant to grow.
complete proteins and saturated fats are essential
this is why if all you ate was red meat only , you would likely thrive and grow. but if all you had was beans you would likely shrivel up and die
- having said that. I like to add some legumes into my diet on occasion. as a carb, fiber, and micro nutrient source WITH meat. not by itself and I don't count the protein
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as for potato . super beneficial and much better then rice in regards to overall nutrition and micro nutrients. your crazy to say they are not dense in nutrition..
heres whats in a potato
carbohydrate
fiber
starch
Vitamin B1, B2, B3, B6,
Choline
Folate
Vitamin c
Vitamin k
Calcium
Iron
Magnessium
Potassium
Manganese
Copper
Zinc
Phosphurus
amino acids
I'm sure I'm forgetting a few things
beans are very micro nutrient dense as well . but a steak and potato is going to provide you with pretty much most of all you would need from your nutrition
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in comparison , a serving of rice has 50mg of potassium in it while a serving of potato has 950mg of potassium . big difference
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switching from eating beans as your protein source , over to eating 3 pounds of steak per day and 1 pound of potatoes is likely going to illicit far more gains then running 300mg of test (especially if your running an AI with it)
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running an AI from day one of your first cycle is whats causes most people side effects. not the test itself.. the recommended first cycle thread needs to be updated based on newer research and understanding.
95% of the time AI's are un necessary and not needed at all or again can cause the most side effects . lowering Estrogen levels to near zero cause you took an AI from day one of your cycle, before your long ester test is kicking in is going to totally ruin your entire cycle.
your body wasn't designed to have estrogen levels plummet at the same time androgen levels are increasing
the whole reason your taking Test in your cycle (and not going with other AAS) is because you want the estrogen in the first place. thats one of its primary functions. taking an AI is defeating the purpose of taking test in the first place. especially in the context of a 'test only' cycle .
if you don't want the estrogen then don't run test only cycles. theres about 20 other things you can run that don't convert to E
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12-13-2019, 06:42 PM #26Junior Member
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The "incomplete" protein is a total myth, and it came from a woman who has since admitted many times she was wrong and was basing the requirements for amino acids based off an egg because they thought it must be the gold standard, as it was a whole being.
https://medium.com/@chanapdavis/bust...s-960428e7e91e
Again, you aren't up to par when knowing the ramifications or of an anti-nutrient.
https://www.outsideonline.com/232719...ting-your-diet
300g of protein is horrible for you. Even ARNOLD said MAX 1g of protein per lb of bodyweight for bodybuilders. LOL. Saturated fats are absolutely not essential. That's pure bro-science. You clearly haven't studied this. Go to your local cardiologist for a check on that one.
Of course breast milk contains lots of fat, it's calorically the most dense thing there is. We also don't consume breast milk past infancy, genius. It's a tiny stage of our lives meant to get us growing and fed lots of calories and anti-microbial and immune defense properties.
If what you were saying made ANY sense, then Tony Gonzalez wouldn't have been able to put up crazy numbers, let alone walk for the final years of his career when he went vegan, Timothy Bradley wouldn't have world class abs and endurance, much less be alive. David Haye wouldn't be knocking people out on a vegan diet like he did.
This is the problem with these forums. Bro science. Uninformed people telling other people about things that are very serious, and they have no clue what they're talking about.
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^ ugh . now we got Vegans joining the community guys .
you have no clue what your talking about. your the one thats pointing a finger at me yet you have 4 more pointing back at yourself. your the one thats an un informed "bro science" guy , but even then heck your probably not even a bro . lets see what you look like "bro".
you also don't know me so don't assume I'm "bro science" just cause I'm not an un informed vegan like you . I've been in sports nutrition to some capacity or another for 25 years. I do this for a living, its my job. writing diets for people that pay me and studying nutrition is an every day occurrence for me.
what do you do for a living ?
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btw, you might find this an entertaining read
https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...g-ice-age.html
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Is there not a Q&A before joining these forums? If they answer to “yes I’m a Vegan” then it should redirect them to being unable to join. Smh.. so sad
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12-13-2019, 08:34 PM #33
Missing amino acids isn't the issue with legumes, it's the amount of anti-nutrients that's the problem. These anti-nutrients are only partially reduced by soaking, boiling, and sprouting but not 100% neutralized. This is why legumes are not fed to animals... But they expect you to eat it.
Here are just a few of the anti-nutrients present in legumes:
Phytic acid - Reduces digestibility of proteins and fats
Lectins - Causes leaky gut
Saponins - disturbs digestive enzymes
Oligosaccharides - makes you fart
Tannins - Not good for the liver
Trypsin inhibitor - Growth inhibition and pancreatitis.
Alpha-amylase inhibitor - Dysbiosis (candidiasis)
Many of these anti-nutrients are also found in nuts, beans, vegetables and grains.
Dog Food With Legumes Tied to Pet Heart Disease, FDA Says
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https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutriti...nti-nutrients/
And you went to Harvard right?
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https://forums.steroid.com/new-male-...ning-mass.html
maybe try eating meat and you wouldn't be the ultimate ectomorph skinny guy and 80% smaller then everyone else at 30 years old
just an idea
clearly your nutrition ideas don't work for yourself . look in the mirror. yet your coming in here picking shit with peopleLast edited by GearHeaded; 12-13-2019 at 09:38 PM.
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He refuses to listen so idk why any of us bother with this plant based moron
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12-13-2019, 10:24 PM #40
I wonder if a proper nutrition plan, anabolics and insulin would work? It's too bad there's nobody on the forum that's informed enough to help...
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Yes sir, when you drop your estrogen down to nothing you generally feel shitty and ache like hell. Try backin off the AI some next time.
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