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As Kel stated, glad your OK and here to discuss this with us. Your avatar is very siilar to my current body, I'm also around 22-23%, last check at the doc had me at 22%. I was considering it to assist in taking the pain and edge off the joints that years of heavy lifting have created. I realize your story is not meant to scare, I take it as another factor to weigh in the decision process. The unquantified factor is the activity level, How active do you need to be? I find it hard to believe you were pinning and then taking a prone position on the couch. Do you think your past history of AAS contributed to this event? The proverbial straw that broke the camels back?
I really don't know if my past history contributed. I'm still active in the gym with a M,T - Th-Fr split and can still do 405 on the flat bench for 8 reps. Now I didn't try for a max when using the deca this time but I did notice the bar a little easier to handle. Now when I used to cycle around 15 years ago I was on my feet alot BUT I DID travel about 250 days a year. You'd think if I was going to have a clotting problem I'd have had it then. Then again I was 6'1" 310 with 12% BF back then. Miss those days! I just think my body chemistry is such that if the docs are right I was just prime for it I guess.
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I'm calling the bs flag on ur physicians. As an Orthopaedics surgeon I live in the realm of prophylactic treatment of blood clots. There is no literature on medline to support nandrolone use increasing DVt risk, in fact it cAn increase bleeding times. I think ur other risk factors are probably more pertinent. Any family hx if DVt? Did they check factor five and protein c and s? We're u on an aroma taste inhibitor to decrease estrogen levels and finally do u smoke?
Man am I glad somebody like you stepped in on this discussion. I looked through my discharge paperwork and thought that I had a brief lab number rundown. Going to get it Monday with my next checkup. I know that they didn't believe I was using the dose I said because the main cardiologist I dealt with claims the levels were too high for the dose. I got bitchy with him and asked how many cycles he had done in his life and the conversation went no where. My primary care doc who was SUPPORTIVE "unofficially" had done some "research" (As she put it) and was convinced that this time around the nandrolone is the prime culprit to the cause of the clots.
As far as my personal health habits - I've never been a smoker, drink a beer or two a year. I was taking arimidex to help control the already notorious E2 levels. Since I've been off I have lost 33 pounds (Obviously the vast majority being water) My diet isn't the best but then again I'm not really out to be chiseled. Never have been. I have a script for furo***ide that I take every two to four days to help keep the water levels down.
I have to add this - I asked my wife what she remembered from her conversations with docs when I was in ICU - She said one doc felt my previous steroid history made me a prime candidate for the clotting side effect. That's the first time I heard that. I don't even remember who she's talking about.
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there was a study done where they found one thing in common in men who died from heart attack, low testosterone! i believe some one here mentioned it and posted the link to the study.
Read the same thing - With testim my levels barely went into the 300 range. Doc wasn't happy with that and neither was I. Was on cypionate for a while and then switched to enanthate and never felt better. I'm cleared to start pinning my prescribed TRT but now have warfrin because my legs are riddled with superficial thrombofelitis. 16 in the right leg and 11 in the left. Have to have some stripped out because they are damned painful. One on the ball of my foot.
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well deca will thicken your blood (RBC, hemoglobin and hematocrit) and thats how you could end up with clots, so one MUST donate blood on the regular basis to avoid this issue. also must make sure your platelets are in good shape before you run deca, platelets job is to prevent clots.
My doc did a 4 week blood check and said everything looked fine. (3 weeks later I'm on the floor) Didn't give me particulars but "Unofficially" gave her blessing to continue. This woman is the best doc I have ever had and has let me control the direction of my TRT as long as my levels didn't sky rocket and stayed very close to normal on the high end; And I never asked for a refill before it was time. Until I find someone who can sit down with me and my labs and give me a better opinion or atleast an official second opinion on what could have caused the clotting.
I argued with the docs that they were too textbook oriented and believed the media too damned much. I even told one guy he was using the deca as a scapegoat to make his job easier. Wasn't the best patient. Was my wife and my primary care doc that convinced me that right now, with current physiology, that is the prime suspect. I had a round of tests done on my ticker including a stress test in September and everything was normal. As much as I hate to admit it I do see their point that 7 weeks in after starting deca (even the low dose) all hell broke loose.