Done my first HGH shot - sound OK?.....

**dazbo** · 06-28-2007, 03:25 AM

Done my first shot to start my 6months of ansomone.

Starting at 2ius and building up over the weeks to 5ius.

My ansomone comes with 2ml of sterile water and 4ius/vial HGH. So, I want 2ius so I took 1ml water, swirled it in with the powder till it was fully mixed. Then I used a u100 pin to draw 0.5ml up. Swabbed the stomach area with alcohol swab, pinched the skin fold, stuck it in and injected! Then rubbed the area down a bit afterwards.

All that sound good so far?? The rest of my mixed ansomone is in the fridge door till tomorrow.

Thanks

Darren

**Gear** · 06-28-2007, 03:33 AM

I'll move this to the GH forum.

-Gear

**dazbo** · 06-28-2007, 03:37 AM

thanks! I put all my other questions in there but didnt realise or know why I put this in here?!

**dazbo** · 06-28-2007, 02:05 PM

Anyone input on this please?

Also just done my first IGF after training arms at the gym. It went like this -

My IGF came with a 10ml vial, a vial with powder in, and 5ml of sodium chloride/water solution. I used my slin pin to draw a couple of 1ml's out of the water, then I slowly injected it into the vial with the powder in. Then I slowly swirled it to mix it all. Then when that was done, I drew it back out of there with the slin pin (Took a fewe goes) and then injected it into the 10ml vial (Slowly). Then I drew up the rest of the water sol. and injected that into the 10ml vial also.This meant I had 5ml of water mixed with 1000mcg of IGF. This makes 1ml = 200mcg.

I am shooting 25mcg into each Bicep after training arms (Will do tris next time). So, I drew up (With a new slin pin) 0.25 ml which is equal to 50mcg of igf solution. I then swabbed the areas clean and shot 0.125ml into one bicep, then the rest of it into the other Bicep.

So, does alll that sound correct so far???

Thanks

Darren

**longhorn814** · 06-28-2007, 02:15 PM

did you reconstitute your IGF with AA or water?

**Zelos** · 06-28-2007, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by dazbo

Anyone input on this please?

Also just done my first IGF after training arms at the gym. It went like this -

My IGF came with a 10ml vial, a vial with powder in, and 5ml of sodium chloride/water solution. I used my slin pin to draw a couple of 1ml's out of the water, then I slowly injected it into the vial with the powder in. Then I slowly swirled it to mix it all. Then when that was done, I drew it back out of there with the slin pin (Took a fewe goes) and then injected it into the 10ml vial (Slowly). Then I drew up the rest of the water sol. and injected that into the 10ml vial also.This meant I had 5ml of water mixed with 1000mcg of IGF. This makes 1ml = 200mcg.

I am shooting 25mcg into each Bicep after training arms (Will do tris next time). So, I drew up (With a new slin pin) 0.25 ml which is equal to 50mcg of igf solution. I then swabbed the areas clean and shot 0.125ml into one bicep, then the rest of it into the other Bicep.

So, does alll that sound correct so far???

Thanks

Darren

chloride sodium solution

**dazbo** · 06-28-2007, 04:48 PM

yup thats the stuff Zelos. So I take it I have done it all correct so far?

thanks

darren

**longhorn814** · 06-28-2007, 05:43 PM

if your IGF was in powder form in your vial, you need to reconstitute it with acetic acid, not NaCl...it breaks down very quickly in water, thus u need AA, you then dilute it in the syring with NaCl

**dazbo** · 06-29-2007, 06:27 AM

I mixed it with the stuff that it came with, and I keep it in the fridge like it says and it says it lasts fine like this?? Its too late for me to change what its mixed with now anyway. Im not sure what you mean by diluting in the syringe either??

thanks

**longhorn814** · 06-29-2007, 08:41 AM

IGF is supposed be reconstituted with acetic acid, hopefully your kit came with it. Its an acid so its gonna sting, the reason you draw some extra water into the syringe (dilute) is to reduce the sting of the AA. Try injecting without drawing any additonal water into the syringe, if it stings, its mixed with AA, if it doesnt, you probably mixed it with water and the vial will be good for about 2 days!

**Zelos** · 06-29-2007, 10:15 AM

right you have to reconstitute with AA to maintain a good PH ( should be 0,6% of AA ).
It's very easy to make it with white vinegar , sterile water and filter .

**jerseyboy** · 06-29-2007, 10:25 AM

What dosage are your vials? You only need to use acedic acid if you have 1mg vials. 100mcg vials will be used up in a shorter period of time so preserving the IGF is not an issue plus you don't have to worry about diluting the solution with nacl. AA is damaging to the muscle cells you know.

**Zelos** · 06-29-2007, 10:33 AM

his vial is 1mg, and yes that is painfull with AA .

**dazbo** · 06-30-2007, 04:45 PM

I got my IGF from www.ar-r.com which is where I thought most got it from?

It comes with "Sodium Chloride injection BP 0.9%, 45mg in 5ml"

Does that mean 0.9% of AA then?? Or of NaCl?

The instructions are exactly like this (The ones that come with it) -

1. use 2-3ml water sol. (Only use water supplied) and measure vial dose accordingly. Continue to add the remaining solution.
2. DO NOT use benzyl alcohol or any other water to dilute.
3. Each vial will yeild 1000mcg (1mg) of IGF per vial. This yields 5ml @200mcg/ml.
4. Inject water sol. slowly down that side of the vial DO NOT force.
5. Then slowly and gently swirl vial to mix sol. Allow sol. to fully dissolve before commencing injections.
6. ONLY in ject via deep intramuscular (Shoulders). Massage the injection area after each shot to allow for full absorbtion.
7. ONLY use insulin /diabetic needles.
8.Practise sterile injection procedures at ALL TIMES. Always swab both the top of the vial and the local injection areabefore every injection.
9. MUST keep refrigerated VERY COLD at ALL TIMES once reconstituted (Diluted).
10. Store at just above freezing temperature. DO NOT FREEZE.
11. Best temperature is just above 0 degC.
12. Once reconstituted, is stable at up to 8-12wks refrigerated very cold AT ALL TIMES (Just above freezing temp)
13. Is stable at room temp. in its dry state (Before diluting) due to shipping due to this unique stability formula.

So I did everything as close to that as I could, and in the way I understood it. Why would they say 8-12wks if it cant last that long or anywhere near that?

Thanks

Darren

**dazbo** · 06-30-2007, 04:45 PM

Oh yeah, and no its not painful in the slightest to inject.

**Zelos** · 07-01-2007, 05:14 AM

you have NaCl solution instead of acid acetic solution .
It's not a pb as they notice it will be stable up to 12 weeks on the fridge with this NaCl solution.
The advantage of the acid acetic solution is that you can keep it 1 year on room temp without any fridge.
So your solution should be good.

**dazbo** · 07-01-2007, 01:54 PM

Thanks again Zelos thats just the type of answer I was hoping for!!

Thank you, and next cycle I will be getting the AA 'cos this is gonna be awkward keeping it at that temperature permenantly!

**Zelos** · 07-02-2007, 09:47 AM

no pb dazbo

I make the same with my igf , only AA and i leave it in room temp.
BTW , we spoke about your igf1 , your thread is about hgh

**dazbo** · 07-02-2007, 10:55 AM

LOL yup, its all been about IGF in my HGH thread LOL.

Anyway, got my questions answered so thanks.

I just ordered some bacteriostatic water from get **** as thats all I could find on there. Would that be the same as using AA? Its just the instructions state not to use Benzyl alcohol or any other water at all??!!

**Zelos** · 07-02-2007, 02:40 PM

it's not recommended to use BW for igf1 , it will destroy the amino acids chain.

**jerseyboy** · 07-02-2007, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by dazbo

LOL yup, its all been about IGF in my HGH thread LOL.

Anyway, got my questions answered so thanks.

I just ordered some bacteriostatic water from get **** as thats all I could find on there. Would that be the same as using AA? Its just the instructions state not to use Benzyl alcohol or any other water at all??!!

Bacteriostatic water has benzyl alcohol in it.