Doc i thing osteopathy is working for me

[sonar1234]

I arrived earlier to my treatment last night so i add like 15 minutes that i could talk to the osteopath, let me tell you doc that i did not hold back on any questions, and i told her how spectic i was about viseral osteopathy.

She was very nice and bared with me all that time, she asked me about the other osteopath i consulted before her, one was very good but the other 2 sucked ass, she told me that pertty much anyone that has a physiotherapy formation can go and follow a 2 weekend course on osteopathy, she said that does not make you an osteopath but many add that title into there resume.

She said to be careful about the one that have it all in there resume cause many time (Has i did find out the hard way its shit).

She showed me her diploma that she got in physio therapy at the university, she practiced for 7 years then went to university again to study osteopaty for 4 years, she has been practicing osteopathy since 1999. Both University are very legit and i know them very well.

She told me that there is a lot more to osteopathy then just muscle, tendon and bones, and has i saw last night she worked a lot on my upper back that was jammed tight, she then did some cranial osteopathy on my neck region, then she went on to my pelvic once again. After she finished she re-evaluated my posture and you can clearly see that my shoulders are really pulling backwards, that in only 2 treatments.

I really felt it when she worked my upperback and felt instant relief after the treatment. She then told me that a good osteopath needs to check everything cause it is possible that an organ has moved when people get into accident.

These are 2 pictures one taken April 26th and the second on today May 10th, i do see a good change in posture and that really makes me happy.

Crossing fingers.

[Doc.Sust]

also sonar, take in consideration that you are lsing weight, this may also may be a HUGE reason you are feeling less pain!
heyosteopathy is great, i have alot of respect for the asspect of treating the body as a whole, and not just the symptoms of a particular problem, i just cant see how pushing on organs can do very much, but you know what, i also cant see how accupuncture works, but the truth is it does, so who knows. hell if it works for you, by all means keep it up

[sonar1234]

I do feel the adjustment done has well, even if i did lose weight i needed to have theses adjustment done, the one that where done on my upper back i feel them.

I tried accuponcture and it didnt work at all for me. If someone gives you a deep tissue massage but your posture is all wrong then the pain will come back.

Replacing an organ sounds even more weird to me since i am not at all in the medical field, when she said that i found it to be very hilarious but apparently it was done.

I will be able to give more feedback in a short while.

[bda2424]

As a third year chiropractic student (similar in nature to osteopaths) i can tell you that if one dr. can not accomplish one thing for you it is still very possible another with the same degree can. I witness this every day. And as for the accupuncture stuff..........alot of people are not experienced enough to be effective, but it in effect works really well and has been around forever. It utilizes the meridian pathways in your body to unblock energy conduction problems. Our bodies are full of tons of energy, but not being able to route to where it needs to go is a problem. And if you don't like needles look into reflexology.

[sonar1234]

As a third year chiropractic student (similar in nature to osteopaths) i can tell you that if one dr. can not accomplish one thing for you it is still very possible another with the same degree can. I witness this every day. And as for the accupuncture stuff..........alot of people are not experienced enough to be effective, but it in effect works really well and has been around forever. It utilizes the meridian pathways in your body to unblock energy conduction problems. Our bodies are full of tons of energy, but not being able to route to where it needs to go is a problem. And if you don't like needles look into reflexology.

The sad thing is that here in Canada good back doctors are very hard to find and most of theses experts are all money and no knowlege.

Its not normal that i have been living with pain for 5 years now and my bones are all ok but my posture is not.

[Doc.Sust]

As a third year chiropractic student (similar in nature to osteopaths) i can tell you that if one dr. can not accomplish one thing for you it is still very possible another with the same degree can. I witness this every day. And as for the accupuncture stuff..........alot of people are not experienced enough to be effective, but it in effect works really well and has been around forever. It utilizes the meridian pathways in your body to unblock energy conduction problems. Our bodies are full of tons of energy, but not being able to route to where it needs to go is a problem. And if you don't like needles look into reflexology.

what school are you in? when you get enoughn post(i think it is 50) you can personal message me, we should chat and talk about the profession

[Doc.Sust]

The sad thing is that here in Canada good back doctors are very hard to find and most of theses experts are all money and no knowlege.

Its not normal that i have been living with pain for 5 years now and my bones are all ok but my posture is not.

all the students iwent to school with from canada didnt return when they graduated because they ciould make more money here in the states because of hoiw the health care system operates up there.in theory, i love the canadian system,BUT itleads to problems like doc's getting underpaid so then they leave and than the people suffer because of it, free health care really isnt free, there is a price to pay, sub par care.

[Doc.Sust]

sonar, i am glad the organ manip is working for you, like i said i know very little about it.

[sonar1234]

sonar, i am glad the organ manip is working for you, like i said i know very little about it.

Doc its not only the organ manipulation (i have a very hard time beleiving in this myself), its her whole osteopathy system, i mean i have seen her 2 times and the adjustment she did show right away on the before after pictures.

Been a little while since i saw my mother and when i went to her house she noticed it right away, my posture and all.

Its not over i still have pains but she was able to replace and correct many things that others i went to see couldnt.

The last i saw where all Massage therapist and physio therapist, they treated the pain but never went to the source of the problem, that is what i love about osteopathy it goes to the source.

[Doc.Sust]

osteo and good chiro treat the whole body, not just the symptoms. well i am glad, explain the whole protocal she is using on you> spinal maipulatins? nutriton? give me the scoop from start of the visit until the end?

[sonar1234]

osteo and good chiro treat the whole body, not just the symptoms. well i am glad, explain the whole protocal she is using on you> spinal maipulatins? nutriton? give me the scoop from start of the visit until the end?

First visite was very odd, i was in boxers has on my pictures LOL and she pertty much checked my posture, side bent, front bent, check how flexible i was, knees and of course neck.

I add about 20 minutes of history to unfold to her, how i got injured what treatments i add up to this day, my posture exercices, of course she was interested in my recent weightloss has well.

Then she made me lie on the table and for another 20 minutes she sort of check all my organs, stomach, liver, pancrease, intestin and all the digestive system, that felt really weird.

THen she applied some pressure near the stomach to replace my duodenum, i didnt really feel nothing to be honest. Then she worked on my neck, she never cracked me, she sort of used slow pression, pressing, pulling and pressing again.

She then replaced a vertebra that i add in the middle of the back, she used a towel to do so, and she sort of cuddled me into a ball, she was behind me and she lower me on the table, i eard a cracking and that was it.

She then re-evaluated my posture, its there that i could see the lump on my neck was gone? and i was quit amazed.

The second visite i was really tight in the upper back, neck region.

So she sat me down on the table and was behind me, she made me move my head all different directions has she check my mobility, that lasted again 15 minutes of so, then she took a small towel and rolled it, but it on my upperback and grab me from behind and pull, a very quick pull, i felt instant relief, she did this twice and said i add 2 lesions on the upper back. She worked on my diaphragm has well sorry for the spelling.

SHe then check my posture again and told me to really work my upper back this week she gave me 10 days off between another session.

I have to do 3 sets of 10 repetition of breathing, i pull some air into my stomach then into the diaphragm then blow the air out, she said its to expand my diaphragm.

I did some push ups, resistance band upper back exercices, bodyweight squats, of course i still feel pain but the huge spams that i add on my upper back didnt come back. I still have pain into the homoplates.


I am seeing her again Friday the 19th so i will be able to give you more feedback.

Its been a while since i was able to do any kind of real hard bootcamp training, but this week i was able to squeeze in 3 good workouts with minimal pain.

If everything goes well bodyweight should get down to 170 pounds in no time and bodyfat % too should go down.

[bda2424]

what school are you in? when you get enoughn post(i think it is 50) you can personal message me, we should chat and talk about the profession

I'm at logan in St. Louis. Also.......in reference to canada, i see what you mean. I know quite a few students who stay here not only for the money but because the canadian boards are rediculous and too out of relevance for a chiropractic examination. Also networking is very important in the profession and the US is where they acquire that in school. That is an unfortunate problem but i don't see the trend swinging around any time soon. 3 days ago a senate bill was just denied in favor to chiropractic. This will ensure chiropractors a better healthcare system in the US still.

[bda2424]

The sad thing is that here in Canada good back doctors are very hard to find and most of theses experts are all money and no knowlege.

Its not normal that i have been living with pain for 5 years now and my bones are all ok but my posture is not.

Also, in reference to the bones being in good shape, great. That is one of the more important aspects. Posture is not a big deal. Very rarely do i see people with good posture and most of us develop these bad habits when we are children. The good news for us is that with weight training, PT, adjustments and correct usage of supplements i've seen wonders. Depending on what your posture is there are various muscle groups that will help pull your body and stabilize it in certain areas. Probably one supplement i would look into is magnesium manganese for your ligament and tendon strength. Without this strength good posture and holding any adjustments you get are more difficult. If you do look into it, make sure it is an absorbable form for your body, i don't know how many times people say i took this and that and it never worked. The truth is most of the companies out there make supps cheaply and in bulk. The end result is a product that cannot be utilized by the body that simply put ends up in the toilet through urine.

[Doc.Sust]

I'm at logan in St. Louis. Also.......in reference to canada, i see what you mean. I know quite a few students who stay here not only for the money but because the canadian boards are rediculous and too out of relevance for a chiropractic examination. Also networking is very important in the profession and the US is where they acquire that in school. That is an unfortunate problem but i don't see the trend swinging around any time soon. 3 days ago a senate bill was just denied in favor to chiropractic. This will ensure chiropractors a better healthcare system in the US still.

good news! thanks for the update, the rules vary so much state to state, where i practice pesonal injury pays, the next state over, PI pays nothing, location is very relative in practice. logan is a great school, i dont alot about logan basic tech. but i know of it, i use diversified and follow a PT type protocal. definately not a homeopathic doc, i favor more modalitites

[sonar1234]

Patience my poor friend partience is what it takes, all theses downfalls, false sense of improvment and more.

For someone that is a couch patato back pain can be easly cured, take some pills and voila, i have been proposed many times to go that route but refused.

I take whey protein each day morning with flax oil and yes i do take magnesium, its a good brand and my girlfriend takes it also.

Has for posture i been doing it for a while now at least 5 pr 6 months i think, and can honestly say that without the adjustment i got it might not have been better.

I guess that i got to be patient once again, and have confidence in that person after all she said that by summer i will be cured of back pain.

[bda2424]

At logan we basic is merely a small fraction of what we do. Diversified still comes first there. As for the magnesium you take sonar, while it may be good it is different than the magnesium manganese. This is a pill that combines the two and synergistically helps.

[Doc.Sust]

At logan we basic is merely a small fraction of what we do. Diversified still comes first there. As for the magnesium you take sonar, while it may be good it is different than the magnesium manganese. This is a pill that combines the two and synergistically helps.

well my friend, you ever need help in the profession or qustions, feel free to ask. when i graduated, i had no idea what i wanted to do, school IMo didnt prepare me enough, especialy the bussiness aspect of opening a practice

[bda2424]

well my friend, you ever need help in the profession or qustions, feel free to ask. when i graduated, i had no idea what i wanted to do, school IMo didnt prepare me enough, especialy the bussiness aspect of opening a practice

Thats what all the graduates ahead of me told the school. As of now logan has incorporated 5 business classes into curriculum, ie. how to bill, get patients, appeal to public and patient education stuff. Seems to be doing better than the last 10 years of grads. What school did you go to?

[sonar1234]

Forgot to mention,

Diet, food, stress.

Yes Doc they where all part of the evaluation she gave me the first time.

Of course the fact that for the last 2 years me and the family add been dealing with my father cancer and death was very stressing.

I also lost my pet cat that i found dead on my bed coming back from work and i add a good depression and grief after this.

She told me that sugar was bad, but that i already new, but she didnt really get into that much, she said that saturated fats and all chips crap fast food, but since i been training for a while she said that my diet should be good.

Tomorrow is my third session. Last night i did lower abs and didnt feel that much pain has i used too.

[Doc.Sust]

sounds like the program is ok to me, if you are getting results from her suggestions and it is working, than you are on the right track,keep up the good work,i am glad tosee you are getting results! also, my condolences to you about the cat, i knew your father passed away from before, but ididnt know you lost your pet too. i know you must have really loved the cat, you always posted pics of the little guy, i know how hard it is to lose an animal, it is just awful. pets are family in my eyes. my family lost a dog a year ago, we were devestated,

[sonar1234]

sounds like the program is ok to me, if you are getting results from her suggestions and it is working, than you are on the right track,keep up the good work,i am glad tosee you are getting results! also, my condolences to you about the cat, i knew your father passed away from before, but ididnt know you lost your pet too. i know you must have really loved the cat, you always posted pics of the little guy, i know how hard it is to lose an animal, it is just awful. pets are family in my eyes. my family lost a dog a year ago, we were devestated,

THanks Doc, worst is that she did not see sick at all, 2006 has been the worst year in my life so far, asking myself what the fukk does life want with me, what does it have to teach by going true this?

Has for the pain its still there but not at the same place, and the pictures do show a big difference.

I will be able to tell more after a couple of sessions, for now its good.

I still feel pain in the omoplathes but its not the gruling pain has before and i have been working my body quit hard has she asked me too, lower back is giving me trouble to so next time she will have to spend some time down there to see what is going on.

[Doc.Sust]

Thats what all the graduates ahead of me told the school. As of now logan has incorporated 5 business classes into curriculum, ie. how to bill, get patients, appeal to public and patient education stuff. Seems to be doing better than the last 10 years of grads. What school did you go to?

i dont want to be 2 specicifc, one of the schools in the bay area, when you get pm privelages we will talk more, i dont like to talk to much on the open board