Test E/Dbol Cycle... HELP 1st cycle!!

**ahming1988** · 09-05-2006, 10:24 PM

Hi guys,

im currently starting my first cycle of Test E and dbol ..

I'm 5'11 and 80kg... around 13-15%bf, been training consistently for 3yrs nw...

Week 1 - 4 : 20/30/30/40mg of D-bol ED
Week 1 - 10 : 500mg of Testoviron Enanthate /wk

Im wondering if i should add in HCG to my following PCT below which i will start 2wks on e dot after my last Test E injection.

Wk 12 : 150mg of Clomid ED , 40mg of Tamoxifen ED
Wk 13 : 100mg of Clomid ED , 40mg of Tamoxifen ED
Wk 14 - 15 : 50mg of Clomid ED , 20mg of Tamoxifen ED

Another question is should i take nolva ED from start of cycle? is there really a need?

**C_Bino** · 09-05-2006, 10:35 PM

This is more PCT based. I will move it to the appropriate forum.

Anways, as for your questions you can use HCG if you want, its not a necessity and its totally up to you. If you want you can run it for two weeks between your last shot and the beginning of PCT at like 500iu per day.

Also whether you will need nolva or any anti-e from the beginning of the cycle is a question no one can answer. Keep it on hand and if you start to suffer estro-related sides than begin to use it immediately.

**ahming1988** · 09-06-2006, 02:55 AM

hmm...i see...

can i use 1500iu for 2 shots of hcg around last wk of TEST E injections and another 1000iu for another 2shots of hcg a wk after?

**cubanitoracing** · 09-13-2006, 08:05 PM

when you saying that you running dbol 20/30/30/40 you mean that you will shot your self week 1 20 mg every day monday to friday and then next week 30 mg monday to friday is that correct ?