heavy upright rows?

[krusher]

I started doing these this past week same as a upright row but it's a cheating movement incorporating the back, little bending of the knees, and maybe calves, being able to do more weight than usual. any one else do these? feel like they had a good effect on me

[ironaddict69]

getting good gains from it?

[krusher]

It's only my second week doing them got really sore though. more than with just strict ones. feel it in my whole shoulder girdle. I'll let you know in a couple of weeks

[JAYROD]

i do them this way but my bi's come into play if i'm not carefull. i pull the bar into my lower chest quick and lower it fairly slow and go down until i feel my lat's strech.

[HSFootball]

I only lift as heavy as I can with perfect technique.

[singern]

I love this exercise, and Like the guys said, use perfect form on this one.

you can do it wide grip for shoulders, narrow grip for back. watch your rotator on this.

[Dude-Man]

Go heavy, but don't cheat.

[krusher]

been doing them for about a month now and my entire shoulder girdle is getting stronger. seem to be working well I can definitley feel a difference, 4 sets 10/8/6/4 try em

[ebjack]

According to Arnolds encyclopedia:

this is a heavy cheating movement for advance bodybuilders to strengthen the entire shoulder girdle.


I don't do this one...I get a stinging twinge in my left trap whenever I even do the strict form of this lift..

[Geezy]

I do them here and there just to add a bit of variety on shoulder day...I dont go very heavy and I use strict form.

[Dude-Man]

this is a heavy cheating movement for advance bodybuilders to strengthen the entire shoulder girdle.

Hehe. Bringing up the arnold book in this forum is like bringing up God in congress.

[Jakspro]

I just started doing them 2 weeks ago, I actually like it. But i dont believe i'm exactly cheating for the entire set. I still do a 10-8 rep set but on the last two i struggle, alot. Like i said, I really do like 'em, incredible pump. (I have a slightly wider grip when i go heavy)

[ozzie lifter]

There great for your traps but i do them on my back day cause they hit your bies a bit to so i keep my shoulder and back day a few days apart.

[Property of Steroid.com]

"I don't believe in contraindicated exercises, only contraindicated individuals. But if there's one exercise that'll ever push me over the line, it's going to be the upright row. This is as internally rotated as the humerus will get, and you're elevating the humerus right into the impingement zone on every rep. For that reason, I'll never write upright rows into a program. The dumbbell version is a slightly safer alternative, although I feel that there are still much safer ways to challenge the upper traps and deltoids. To summarize, if you've ever had a shoulder problem or are at risk, you'd be wise to omit upright rows altogether."

- Eric Cressey, M.A. C.S.C.S (and friend of mine)

[dookses]

Can you recommend a decent alternative or two to doing upright rows then, Anthony?

I personally get a sharp pain sometimes in either shoulder, usually on the way down, while doing heavy upright rows. So I'd be interested in a good alternative, I just thought the upright row was an excellent shoulder exercise which is why I continue to do it.

[HSFootball]

Can you recommend a decent alternative or two to doing upright rows then, Anthony?

I personally get a sharp pain sometimes in either shoulder, usually on the way down, while doing heavy upright rows. So I'd be interested in a good alternative, I just thought the upright row was an excellent shoulder exercise which is why I continue to do it.

Try BTNP(Behind The Neck Press), Front press, or Bradford press(Combination of both). I have found these and upright row to be the most helpful.

[JAYROD]

Can you recommend a decent alternative or two to doing upright rows then, Anthony?

I personally get a sharp pain sometimes in either shoulder, usually on the way down, while doing heavy upright rows. So I'd be interested in a good alternative, I just thought the upright row was an excellent shoulder exercise which is why I continue to do it.

i get less pain in my shoulders doing them with a straight bar on the low cable.

[boostedevo8]

didnt know that uprights would screw up your shoulders like that...hmm.....i learned to work out from alot of old school guys back in the days and most of them swear by this excersise.....

[uao85]

I love this exercise, and Like the guys said, use perfect form on this one.

you can do it wide grip for shoulders, narrow grip for back. watch your rotator on this.

I am pretty sure that a wider grip works more of your back since it makes you squeeze the muscles in your upper back and biceps in order to touch your chin, I have recently switched from a shoulder width grip to a narrower grip per advice from a good friend of mine, and I can feel the difference and it seems to target the outer delts moreso with my hands about 5 inches apart on the straight bar. I also havent run into any problems with rotator cuff when I am doing them, seperated collar bone could cause some problems though. Also the arnold books recommend cheater moves(using secondary muscle groups) to assist in all kinds of lifts especially easybar curls to push more weight and stimulate more muscle growth.

Remington

[uao85]

Try BTNP(Behind The Neck Press), Front press, or Bradford press(Combination of both). I have found these and upright row to be the most helpful.

...dude if somebody is having pain with upright rows, which is a pretty safe excercise IMO, then there is no way I would even think to recommend behind the neck overhead presses to anybody...talk about rotator cuff, if somebody is having problems already, that might as well be the finishing blow. Not smart.

If your having pain with shoulder excercises, just go light with a higher number of reps. and try different things, definitely front shoulder presses, before btn presses, front lat raises, side lat raises, check out the machines at the gym, just see what works and what hurts.

Remington

[suzuki99]

^ i agree 100%. i like to alternate with dumbells for upright rows. i do perfect form 3 sets and 1 really heavy set where i drop my knees a little to get the extra weight up. keep them close to you body and bring it all the way to your chin

[Jakspro]

i have a shoulder impingement problem in my right shoulder (From playin sports), however rows dont aggravate it at all, even going heavy. I've also been told/read plenty of times to be carefull with uprights, but still dont have a problem...knocking on wood.

[boostedevo8]

lately uprights fcuk up my wrists....grrr....I'm going to have to lay off this excersise for a weeks and see what happens.....

[UberSteroids]

lately uprights fcuk up my wrists....grrr....I'm going to have to lay off this excersise for a weeks and see what happens.....

Well, try alt. upright rows with dumbbells, You get much more of a natural movement, wrist feel good, and everything else. It is very easy to cheat though, so You'll need to practice the strict form and how You pull the weight up. Once You get it, it is great! I got pretty damn good at it, and my shoulder gives out, not even feeling my biceps.
Give this a shot. Focus on the shoulder.

[uao85]

^ i agree 100%. i like to alternate with dumbells for upright rows. i do perfect form 3 sets and 1 really heavy set where i drop my knees a little to get the extra weight up. keep them close to you body and bring it all the way to your chin

hmm havent thought of using dbells with upright rows, might try it tomorrow with my shoulder routine.

I have also had alot of shoulder problems (6 rotator cuff surgeries..from sports also) and I also dont have problems with upright rows, but I can see where a wrist injury would impair this excercise..maybe you (boostedevo8)can get by with less pain if you use some wrist wraps.. or just stick to dbell mil press and side lat raises if there is less pain there.

Remington

[boostedevo8]

yeah but I don't believe in wrist wraps or hooks.....I use my bare hands for all my lifts.....I believe if I can't hold on to it then I shouldn't lift it I rather work my way up to that weight....grip , wrist, and 4arm strength are very important to me.....(judo)