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    I need to know if Squat is for Me?

    hallo everybody,

    squat is ****in killing me,folks, not that I don't have the guts to do it but I think may be I don't have the shape and the knees to support my squat performance and I'm sweating myself to something I'm not predestine to do.But first let me tell u a little about my stat. I'm pretty much wide in chest (46") with strong triceps/bicep (15" to be specific) BUT MY THIGHS ARE REALLY SLIM ( about 21") that's almost chicken legs if u will and THAT'S WHY I HAVE BEEN SQUATTING LIKE HELL OVER THE LAST 4 MONTHS. I'm 210 Ibs, 10% BF and currently on 2nd cycle of test E and Dbol. Age 31.

    It has recently come to my attention that improper squat technique can not only lead to temporary injuries but possibly a wheelchair for a long time if not permanent, and I need to avoid that risk as possible as I can because my attention over the past four months was on squat workout routine. In the past 3 months I have had backpain, knee-pain, ankle-pain and now the joint the attach my right thighs to my hip is ****in paining like it would be much better if it is totally cut-off from my whole body. To inhibit and mitigate the pain I have got backbelt, knee-strap, and flat converse shoe for my squat workout but still the pain is unavoidable, what the **** am I suppose to do to reach my bulking goals if these injuries continues to be persistence? Any thought and compliment will be appreciated. Below is a infolink on who to squat that I have been progressively tryin to adopt http://www.naturalphysiques.com/cms/...php?itemid=100
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    bumb!

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    If you have only been squatting for 4 months it sounds like you need to drop weight and lift lighter. There are tons of accessory muscles that must be strong in order for your squat to be good. The weakest link in this whole chain is the stamina of your postural muscles in the lower back. These are the muscles that truely determine how good a squat you can have. Go back to basics hit the trouble spots then gradually and I mean gradually go up in wieght. I thinkyou can safely do squats as long as you have proper form and dont try to push yourself to far when fatiqued. Just remember the large muscles of the quads and glutes are going to be more fatique resistant than that of you posteral muscles. They are powerful muscles and exert lots of force but there primary design is to maintain upright posture, not lifting. If your knees are hurting you need to look at if your knees are caving in when you press. This means that you have a uneven balance of strenght between the a**uctors and adductors of the legs. If this is the case focus on single leg exercise that work these groups until you can get the strength ratio between the two groups more even.

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    How many set/reps are you doing?

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    Thanks for the wise suggestion. But speaking of basic allow me to say after more than 16 wk of squat training I think I should be able to move to the next level so long I practiced the right squat technique with the right gear on (backbelt, knee-strap and flat shoes with good ankle support). I should say I will be able to avoid newbies injuries at this point of routine but unfortunate this is not the case because I continually do absorb a lot of pain after workout, it is much like if today is ankle pain, tomorrow will be knee pain, and the next day will be backpain. What the fnck is going on? And This has been going on and on for sometime now, and I need to know why, so I could either give it up or do it the right way the professional and amateur does it. If my memory still correct, I recall I start my squat workout at the lowest possible level, and that was at 3 sets of 20 Ibs, then 40 Ibs and now my max is somewhere between 3 sets of 90 Ibs to 100 Ibs (of 10 reps at each set). The irony is that if I can bench press 3 sets of 100 Ibs for 10 reps and then perform 3 sets of military press of 100 Ibs for 10 reps WITHOUT ANY WRIST OR ELBOW PAIN, THEN WHY SHOULD ONE SET OF SQUAT AT 90 Ibs FOR 8 REPS CHALLENGE ME WITH UNFORGIVEABKE PAIN AFTER PRACTICING MORE THAN 16 WEEKS????

    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience
    If you have only been squatting for 4 months it sounds like you need to drop weight and lift lighter. There are tons of accessory muscles that must be strong in order for your squat to be good. The weakest link in this whole chain is the stamina of your postural muscles in the lower back. These are the muscles that truely determine how good a squat you can have. Go back to basics hit the trouble spots then gradually and I mean gradually go up in wieght. I thinkyou can safely do squats as long as you have proper form and dont try to push yourself to far when fatiqued. Just remember the large muscles of the quads and glutes are going to be more fatique resistant than that of you posteral muscles. They are powerful muscles and exert lots of force but there primary design is to maintain upright posture, not lifting. If your knees are hurting you need to look at if your knees are caving in when you press. This means that you have a uneven balance of strenght between the a**uctors and adductors of the legs. If this is the case focus on single leg exercise that work these groups until you can get the strength ratio between the two groups more even.
    Last edited by S431M7; 01-07-2007 at 06:53 AM.

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    BTW, the popular advise on this board and others, is that if u want massive quads/hamstring, u have lift higher numbers (weights)/at a lower reps, ain't that correct?
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    listen

    do not believe what people tell you about squatting unless they have squatted for years. Squats are the best builder. Stop paying attention what the other fellas are doing in the gym, weight wise . Drop the ego and lower the weight. 24 years ago i started squatting, i got on a power lifting team. 10 sets of 10 reps , form, form form.. You have to break parralell every rep every set. leg extentions ,leg curls, calves ,also a must hyper extentions before you start squatting, when you are done do spinal twists for 5 minutes. When i was in the 148s my best was 415 lbs., 41 years old,that wes 14 years ago . Once a week i still squat and hit 250 for 5.

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    Squats are a very hard exercise and require a lot of support from other muscles, if its hurting going heavy then its obvious your body is trying to tell you something, try going lighter for a bit longer and periodicaly go heavier to see if its still going to cause pain.

    BTW post your leg routine here inc weight/sets/reps so we can see exactly what your doing.

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    I'm tryin to avoid risk injuries that's why i'm asking questions.
    cheeck this videolink how amazing squat is easy for some people and difficult for others http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...78076999364233


    Quote Originally Posted by jwandmore
    do not believe what people tell you about squatting unless they have squatted for years. Squats are the best builder. Stop paying attention what the other fellas are doing in the gym, weight wise . Drop the ego and lower the weight. 24 years ago i started squatting, i got on a power lifting team. 10 sets of 10 reps , form, form form.. You have to break parralell every rep every set. leg extentions ,leg curls, calves ,also a must hyper extentions before you start squatting, when you are done do spinal twists for 5 minutes. When i was in the 148s my best was 415 lbs., 41 years old,that wes 14 years ago . Once a week i still squat and hit 250 for 5.

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    Honestly if You do not have any medical condition, or joint problems etc. the answer is YES the Squat is for You. Like said above... just drop the weight, start off slow. Keep doing it and over time the weight will add on.
    For example.. I thought squats werent for me.. so what I did.. well beeing 206Lbs I started doing squats with
    1st set Bar only
    2nd set 115Lbs
    3rd set 135Lbs
    Over time as You get use to it, and You practice Your form etc. It will become easier and You will be adding on more weight. Give it time.
    Good luck

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    Thanks Guys,

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