People that do short cycles

[seriouslifter]

What is this big hype of short cycles like 4 on 4 off, 4 on 4 off, 4 on 4 off for 12 weeks of being on total? Is it better than doing straight 12 week cycle? Obviously you would do prop for a test in it, but what else can you do. Obviously everything has to be short acting for best results. What have you done?

[Jefferey]

What is this big hype of short cycles like 4 on 4 off, 4 on 4 off, 4 on 4 off for 12 weeks of being on total? Is it better than doing straight 12 week cycle? Obviously you would do prop for a test in it, but what else can you do. Obviously everything has to be short acting for best results. What have you done?

Personally I do 8 on 8 off...After 8 weeks on I get no more out of the gear unless I up the dosage after 8 weeks and I'm not into that.

[Slowhand]

sounds like a good way to get acne to me

[Xtralarg]

Read this thread in its entirity. It will teach you all you need to know about short cycles.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=224569

[Jefferey]

sounds like a good way to get acne to me

hehehe..I'M TO OLD AND DON'T GET ACNE....

[powerliftmike]

as many of you know im a fan of short cycles (8 wks) and short esters. works great IMO. I usually do 8 on with a 6-8wk off (with first 4 being PCT).

[juicy_brucy]

I have done long and short cycles. My nuts always come back way faster on the short cycles and the gains are a lot easier to keep. JMO.

[getdowntoit]

What is this big hype of short cycles like 4 on 4 off, 4 on 4 off, 4 on 4 off for 12 weeks of being on total? Is it better than doing straight 12 week cycle? Obviously you would do prop for a test in it, but what else can you do. Obviously everything has to be short acting for best results. What have you done?

It's mainly for orals to give your liver a break and to get good results at the end of it.

[Bigmax]

It's mainly for orals to give your liver a break and to get good results at the end of it.

Explain what you just wrote bro...cause you lost me.

[getdowntoit]

Explain what you just wrote bro...cause you lost me.

You do a 4 week cycle of what ever oral you want, then you lay off for 4 weeks,
then restart.

[seriouslifter]

You do a 4 week cycle of what ever oral you want, then you lay off for 4 weeks,
then restart.

i thought orals are pointless to do alone, 4 weeks of dbol only you know what im trying to say

[Bigmax]

yes they are....trust me thats NOT what short cycles are about at all....

[Bigmax]

You do a 4 week cycle of what ever oral you want, then you lay off for 4 weeks,
then restart.

Bro,we have a NO flame policy here ...And I enforce it...so i'll say very tactfully....do research on short cycles bro...cause what you said made no sense at all..

[goose]

You do a 4 week cycle of what ever oral you want, then you lay off for 4 weeks,
then restart.

Look buddy,you are full of shit.Infact with short cycles you dont really have room for orals.

This is in your mind

[Bigmax]

^^^^^lmao!!!!!..you're too much bro...LOL

[goose]

^^^^^lmao!!!!!..you're too much bro...LOL

LOL


When evil lies are spread,sometimes you have to attack to keep the truth alive

[BG]

Truth hurts.

[getdowntoit]

Look buddy,you are full of shit.Infact with short cycles you dont really have room for orals.

This is in your mind

No, listen to what i'm sayin, If sombody does an oral only, it will have to be short anyway because of liver issues, they would simply stop, pct with equal amount of time off then repeat

[Bigmax]

No you dont win and it makes no sense!!!!!,,,you definately dont know what you're talking about...so do yourself a favor and quit now!!!!

[getdowntoit]

No you dont win and it makes no sense!!!!!,,,you definately dont know what you're talking about...so do yourself a favor and quit now!!!!

It's not my fault if your unwilling to understand that simple concept, I will quit since your just being plain ignorant and anti oral only.

[AleX-69]

If sombody does an oral only, it will have to be short anyway because of liver issues,

Well that is somewhat true, BUT has nothing to do with short cycles.

Moreover ORal only is a bad idea.. especially due to glucocorticoid issues post cycle (induced by most 17aa roids) you loose a lot more muscle compared to an injectable only cycle.

Read up on the topic and don't make yourself look like a complete retard anymore, will you?

[theboss]

It's not my fault if your unwilling to understand that simple concept, I will quit since your just being plain ignorant and anti oral only.

crackhead...read the shortcycle thread.....NOT ORALS

are you scared of needles ??

[getdowntoit]

Well that is somewhat true, BUT has nothing to do with short cycles.

Moreover ORal only is a bad idea.. especially due to glucocorticoid issues post cycle (induced by most 17aa roids) you loose a lot more muscle compared to an injectable only cycle.

Read up on the topic and don't make yourself look like a complete retard anymore, will you?

orals are perfect for the light steroid user or newbie, later on when they are more experienced they would move on to injectables some inject straight away, nothing wrong in that personal choice. AS FOR YOU,you shouldn't be aloud near any form of chemical since your just another blind sheep listening to "experts"/parrots that suggest orals are bad, you lose more ect ect:

[pavlenko]

getdowntoit, most users say that orals are only good for kick starting a cycle and NOTHING else, if you are gonna do only orals you might as well not juice at all. you give off as a little kid, grow up man.

[getdowntoit]

getdowntoit, most users say that orals are only good for kick starting a cycle and NOTHING else, if you are gonna do only orals you might as well not juice at all. you give off as a little kid, grow up man.

What's wrong with a small oral cycle? It's like being on a pirate ship here!

[C_Bino]

What's wrong with a small oral cycle? It's like being on a pirate ship here!

You are leading this thread in the wrong direction, away from the inital question. Just let it stop here.

[getdowntoit]

getdowntoit, most users say that orals are only good for kick starting a cycle and NOTHING else, if you are gonna do only orals you might as well not juice at all. you give off as a little kid, grow up man.

lol your knowlage is laughable, parroted and wrong, I've read about steroids before your little google search button exsited.

[AleX-69]

AS FOR YOU,you shouldn't be aloud near any form of chemical since your just another blind sheep listening to "experts"/parrots that suggest orals are bad, you lose more ect ect:

omg.. You don't know anything about me dipsh!t.

I suppose you try to hide your own ignorance insulting me, right?

And if you are oh so smart please explain your view on the relation of 17aa steroids and glucocorticoids..


BTW i am not saying oral only cycles are BAD in general. If you would have read some of my older posts - which you should as you claim to know me so well - you would have seen, that i do not disadvoacte them. BUT 1) Injectable only is generally safer than Oral only. 2) More gains are kept of most injectable cycles (short or long) than oral only cycles 3) Oral only has nothing to do with short cycling. Your logic is flawed.

[getdowntoit]

Well that is somewhat true, BUT has nothing to do with short cycles.



Read up on the topic and don't make yourself look like a complete retard anymore, will you?

Very bad post alex calling me a retard I already know injects are over all better, but short oral cycles can be done, will be done, have been done, and going to be done again, and again ............. and again.

[Schmidty]

so u could do 4wks of TNE and get good results

[helium3]

What is this big hype of short cycles like 4 on 4 off, 4 on 4 off, 4 on 4 off for 12 weeks of being on total? Is it better than doing straight 12 week cycle? Obviously you would do prop for a test in it, but what else can you do. Obviously everything has to be short acting for best results. What have you done?

to get this back to the topic id say prop and tren would be an excellent combo.

or test prop and npp.

im a believer in short cycles,although i dont use compounds like tren yet,i like to frontload which can make the cycle shorter atleast.

[AleX-69]

to get this back to the topic id say prop and tren would be an excellent combo.

or test prop and npp.

I'd stay away from nor compounds like Npp and tren, tried them and found them to be to supressive to recover quick.

you can read up my recommended compunds here. .

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=279656

[helium3]

i agree tren and npp would make recovery slower,depends how ones body reacts to these compounds,im just about to find out how well i recover from nandrolone.

[helium3]

i like the sound of test prop and masteron.

[AleX-69]

yeah prop + either Halo, Masteron, or Var is a real good combo.

Winny is also ok but has a very negative impact on blood lipids and glucocorticoids so i don't think i will use it in future cycles again.

[GauchB]

I can't believe what I am reading here!!!

This post went to sh!t real quick and turned into a little bit(h fight damn!

[hugovsilva]

I would like to see this theme developed here.
1-short cycles don't give so much gains, but recovery is faster allowing you to cycle again sooner. Your hormones are in a roller coaster, but you don't get so supressed.
2-Longer cycles give you more gains, but longer time to recovere. Hormone shiftings are smoother but deeper.

Which one is better?

[odix]

hmm. for your body, probably 1, for gains, probably 2.

[reppedout1]

everyones different imho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!