Understanding Bodybuilding?

[Columbus]

Seriously boys....I have been in this game for awhile, as have many of you, but to truly understand bodybuilding, has goten to me....I want to find out the whole story and understand the science behind a few questions.

#1
DO WE NEED TO INCREASE THE WEIGHT, REPS, ETC. EACH WEEK IN ORDER TO GAIN MUSCLE MASS?
for example, if I bench 250 for 6 last monday, and only get 5 this monday, am I not gaining muscle?
What if it was the second excersice, and last week it was the first.......pretty hard to hit the same reps.
Or supersetting........obvi ously weight will be lighter in an effort to complete both pairs.
Or using a different mach i.e. smith vs. free

#2 WHY DO WE NEED CARBS POSTWO IF WE EAT AMPLE AMOUNTS PRE?

#3 WHAT DO AAS DO AND HOW DO THEY WORK? DO THEY ALLOW YOU TO JUST STIMULATE THE MUSCLE, NOT WORRING ABOUT WEIGHT SETS OR REPS AND GAIN MASS?

$#4 SOME OF THE PROS BAFFEL ME.....THE WEIGHTS THEY USE (I.E. BENCHING 225) WHEN THEY COULD EASILY DO 400 YET THEY CONTINUE TO GROW, IS THIS ALL DUE TO ROIDS AND FOOD?

for starters....sorry if these are newb questions, but I bet there will be different opinions......inquiring minds

[Ajc330]

question #1: maybe your glycogen stores were lower that day, and the fact it is your 2nd exercise is why you only got 5 reps because you weren't at full energy before starting that exercise

#2we need them post because we burn them all during workout...
#3 not too familiar on AAS and don't want to be for a while
#4 is a question i have as well

[S.P.G]

(1) I think its the bigger picture you have to look at here, how you progress over the months, just adding small amounts of weight is the key, even as small as 1 kg each movement, each workout, all builds up over time, to avoid not progressing you must progress slowly, if you add to much weight to soon you will start to fail with maybe 6 reps so what dose that leave for next week? if you don’t progress you will not gain size as there is no stimulus to make it happen, you will just maintain where you are.

for example, if I bench 250 for 6 last monday, and only get 5 this monday, am I not gaining muscle?

So to answer this question^^ if you continued like that over weeks, then no you would not gain muscle, just maintain where you are, Unless you started to use less time in between sets and changed things like that.

(2) Like 330 said you must replace the glucose glycogen you used during your workout.

(3) is a tricky question as there are many different steroids for different needs, But in general steroids are administrated drugs for medical conditions such as osteoporosis ect, ect, some help your body metabolise, use and consume protein at a much faster rate leading to enhanced muscle growth ie things like “nandrolone” But im not going to get in to this as I don’t know that much about it.

I think 4 can be answered like this.

(4) remember, most pros, are genetically superior to the average person, they could probably just walk in to a gym look at a weight and gain size lol.
And to add the G/H and anabolic steroids as they do enhances there body’s even more

Its not unusual for a pro to start bodybuilding with arms over 16+ same with calves.

The reason pros, are pros, is not that there doing anything different to you or me or have a big secret, it's just that there genetics allows them the look the way they do regardless of how they train.

[newmuscleguy]

(1) I think its the bigger picture you have to look at here, how you progress over the months, just adding small amounts of weight is the key, even as small as 1 kg each movement, each workout, all builds up over time, to avoid not progressing you must progress slowly, if you add to much weight to soon you will start to fail with maybe 6 reps so what dose that leave for next week? if you don’t progress you will not gain size as there is no stimulus to make it happen, you will just maintain where you are.


So to answer this question^^ if you continued like that over weeks, then no you would not gain muscle, just maintain where you are, Unless you started to use less time in between sets and changed things like that.

(2) Like 330 said you must replace the glucose glycogen you used during your workout.

(3) is a tricky question as there are many different steroids for different needs, But in general steroids are administrated drugs for medical conditions such as osteoporosis ect, ect, some help your body metabolise, use and consume protein at a much faster rate leading to enhanced muscle growth ie things like “nandrolone” But im not going to get in to this as I don’t know that much about it.

I think 4 can be answered like this.

(4) remember, most pros, are genetically superior to the average person, they could probably just walk in to a gym look at a weight and gain size lol.
And to add the G/H and anabolic steroids as they do enhances there body’s even more

Its not unusual for a pro to start bodybuilding with arms over 16+ same with calves.

The reason pros, are pros, is not that there doing anything different to you or me or have a big secret, it's just that there genetics allows them the look the way they do regardless of how they train.

GOOD POST

[naturalsux]

#4 Its all about stimulation, Pros and experienced bb know how to squeeze every single muscle fiber. they have very good mind muscle connection.
if you dont have proper mind muscle connection you will never reach your full potential.
if you lift too heavy without mastering this you will have sloppy muscle, big all over. which doesnt look good IMO.
most pros as they get older use less weight, cause they know to stimulate the muscle by really squeezing it.

lets take curls for example.
i see people using 100+lbs with big but crappy arms.
they could get a much better workout with 40-50lbs by using just the biceps with proper form and control, which most cant do with 100+lbs.

i use to do curls with no weight and close my eyes and squeeze as hard as i could and tell my biceps to curl. i would get a insane pump that HURT, then i would slowly add weight, but never lose that feeling. if i use too much weight i cant feel the biceps working.
try this if your arms are less than satisfactory, i guarantee they will grow.
you have to tell your bicep to curl till you master it. then it will become 2nd nature.
i hope this helps.

[Columbus]

#4 Its all about stimulation, Pros and experienced bb know how to squeeze every single muscle fiber. they have very good mind muscle connection.
if you dont have proper mind muscle connection you will never reach your full potential.
if you lift too heavy without mastering this you will have sloppy muscle, big all over. which doesnt look good IMO.
most pros as they get older use less weight, cause they know to stimulate the muscle by really squeezing it.

lets take curls for example.
i see people using 100+lbs with big but crappy arms.
they could get a much better workout with 40-50lbs by using just the biceps with proper form and control, which most cant do with 100+lbs.

i use to do curls with no weight and close my eyes and squeeze as hard as i could and tell my biceps to curl. i would get a insane pump that HURT, then i would slowly add weight, but never lose that feeling. if i use too much weight i cant feel the biceps working.
try this if your arms are less than satisfactory, i guarantee they will grow.
you have to tell your bicep to curl till you master it. then it will become 2nd nature.
i hope this helps.

For the newb, yes....until I trained with Cutler (1 day expo) and his form was absolutley horrid....his theory is as long as you push big numbers you will grow......

[naturalsux]

For the newb, yes....until I trained with Cutler (1 day expo) and his form was absolutley horrid....his theory is as long as you push big numbers you will grow......

he mastered mind muscle connection and form a long time ago. he can workout with sloppy form and still have mind muscle connection. once you master it, it dosent matter what you form looks like, as long as your squeezing the muscle.
hes a pro.

[Johny-too-small]

#4 Its all about stimulation, Pros and experienced bb know how to squeeze every single muscle fiber. they have very good mind muscle connection.
if you dont have proper mind muscle connection you will never reach your full potential.
if you lift too heavy without mastering this you will have sloppy muscle, big all over. which doesnt look good IMO.
most pros as they get older use less weight, cause they know to stimulate the muscle by really squeezing it.

lets take curls for example.
i see people using 100+lbs with big but crappy arms.
they could get a much better workout with 40-50lbs by using just the biceps with proper form and control, which most cant do with 100+lbs.

i use to do curls with no weight and close my eyes and squeeze as hard as i could and tell my biceps to curl. i would get a insane pump that HURT, then i would slowly add weight, but never lose that feeling. if i use too much weight i cant feel the biceps working.
try this if your arms are less than satisfactory, i guarantee they will grow.
you have to tell your bicep to curl till you master it. then it will become 2nd nature.
i hope this helps.

Key to BB, imo.

[Columbus]

yup....very good post natural....it's my theory......drop the ego.....if you have to use the pink weights, use em, you will grow with good form....and on AAS, there is no ending! <--- kidding, not the answer, but they def. help!

[Serotonin]

2) The carbs eaten pre workout are probably burned, including the muscles glycogen stores. We eat carbs to increase glucose because when less glucose is available net breakdown of glycogen to glucose 6-phosphate (glycogenolysis) ensues. Two paths are available to this glucose 6-phosphate: 1) In most cells, including skeletal muscle, it enters the glycolytic pathway where it is CATABOLIZED to provide the energy for ATP formation; 2) isn't really that important for this topic. The reverse happens when you have excess glucose, as glucose is stored in the body as glycogen!

To further this discussion, the body will synthesize glucose by also breaking down some amino acids. (gluconeogenesis)

(that is my take on #2 anyways)

3) Testosterone (and not estrogen) exerts a direct anabolic effect on protein sythesis in many nonreproductive organs and tissues of the body. This accounts, at least in part, for the increased muscle mass of men in comparison to women.

This effect of androgens is also why athletes sometimes use sythetic testosterone-like agents termed anabolic steroids (or DHEA and androstenedione which are converted to testosterone) in an attempt to increase muscle mass and strength.

The other ones are too circumstantial for me to comment on but I hope this helps!

[Columbus]

Tell me WHY so many bros can still make gains precontest when some chose only fiberous carbs even postworkout?


My other question - Do you vary your carb intake post by the way you hit the gym. I.e. you have a shitty day in the gym....weights are low, strength sux and you have no pump....feels like you didnt work out kinda thing.....do you lower your carbs since you didnt burn much glyogen with weak lifts?

[ghostdog128]

Tell me WHY so many bros can still make gains precontest when some chose only fiberous carbs even postworkout?


My other question - Do you vary your carb intake post by the way you hit the gym. I.e. you have a shitty day in the gym....weights are low, strength sux and you have no pump....feels like you didnt work out kinda thing.....do you lower your carbs since you didnt burn much glyogen with weak lifts?

usually because many take some type of whey protein PW. Whey will cause a significant insulin response in itself but more importantly most people forget that the body can make all of the glucose it needs from protein through gluconeogenesis.

This is why super high protein diets don't work well when someone is doing a low or no carb diet. The protein is getting converted to sugar defeating the purpose of a no carb diet of trying to initiate ketosis.

[Columbus]

hen why do we ever take dex if just whey works the same? Or + fiberous carbs instead of the junk we do (i.e. dext)?

[Ronnie Rowland]

Seriously boys....I have been in this game for awhile, as have many of you, but to truly understand bodybuilding, has goten to me....I want to find out the whole story and understand the science behind a few questions.

#1
DO WE NEED TO INCREASE THE WEIGHT, REPS, ETC. EACH WEEK IN ORDER TO GAIN MUSCLE MASS?
for example, if I bench 250 for 6 last monday, and only get 5 this monday, am I not gaining muscle?
What if it was the second excersice, and last week it was the first.......pretty hard to hit the same reps.
Or supersetting........obvi ously weight will be lighter in an effort to complete both pairs.
Or using a different mach i.e. smith vs. free

#2 WHY DO WE NEED CARBS POSTWO IF WE EAT AMPLE AMOUNTS PRE?

#3 WHAT DO AAS DO AND HOW DO THEY WORK? DO THEY ALLOW YOU TO JUST STIMULATE THE MUSCLE, NOT WORRING ABOUT WEIGHT SETS OR REPS AND GAIN MASS?

$#4 SOME OF THE PROS BAFFEL ME.....THE WEIGHTS THEY USE (I.E. BENCHING 225) WHEN THEY COULD EASILY DO 400 YET THEY CONTINUE TO GROW, IS THIS ALL DUE TO ROIDS AND FOOD?

for starters....sorry if these are newb questions, but I bet there will be different opinions......inquiring minds

I am often asked “Why are today’s top level bodybuilders bigger than the guys back in the 70-80’s?” There are 6 good reasons. 1) They are training smarter by using less overall training volume. The majority of guys during the Arnold era did not know about over-training nor did they train to get stronger on a progressive basis. 2) Better nutrition. 3) More aerobics. 4) Improved supplement. 5) More drugs such as IGF-1 Long R-3, Mechano Growth Factors, Prostaglandins, Synthol, Clenbuterol, Thyroid hormones, and Anti-estrogens. In addition, some are using much larger dosages of insulin, testosterone, growth hormone, etc. High doses of testosterone and growth hormone were unheard of back then and small dosages of insulin were being used by diabetic bodybuilders for the most part. Many of today’s top competitors are using a larger variety of drugs to create a synergistic effect and they are also a lot more knowledgeable in how to use them. 6) We now have more genetically gifted individuals. There are more people involved in bodybuilding today than there was back in the 70-80’s. The more people involved in a sport, the greater the potential for gifted athletes.


As far as dosages are concerned, some of these top-level competitors take moderate amounts and respond really well and other guys have to take massive amounts to get a similar effect. How each individual responds to the side effects of these drugs also plays a large factor in the final outcome. Some people can take rather small amounts of these drugs and experience side effects such as an increase in blood pressure and elevated liver enzymes, where as others can take a lot and seem to be no worse off for it. Some take what’s considered fairly large amounts and suffer through the negative side effects in order to make the desired gains. This can be dangerous! I've known of a few competitive bodybuilders that had great genetics-muscle bellies and responded great to small dosages, but most need moderate to high doses. I've seen some guys double their doses and get nothing out of it and I've watched others double their doses and make nearly triple the gains. My point is everyone responds differently to these drugs. What might be considered use for one guy could be considered abuse to someone else’s body and this is a major problem with any form of pharmaceutical drug.

The bigger a pro-bodybuilders becomes, the more receptors they create. Therefore, they increase their body’s capacity to use larger amounts of these synthetic hormones. This is precisely why a newbie who mega-doses experience more side-effects than gains as opposed to a very large bodybuilder who gradually ramps up their dosages over time in a linear fashion.

Although most keep it a secret, there are a large percentage of professional bodybuilders that push upwards of 4 to 8 grams per week with anabolics/androgens alone. They don't do it all year long because it would make them ill, but they do multiple short term blitz cycles a year at that level. Others will ramp up to near that level from their current level when it’s time to prepare for a competition. In addition, rumors have surfaced about the new myostatin inhibitor called ACVR2B. Some claim it’s the most powerful muscle building agent known to man.

The smooth-flat look possessed by some during the off-season is from the excess calories and water retention. In order to reach freak status, they have to eat in a way that puts on both muscle and fat. Then, they diet off the added bodyfat while maintaining the muscle they have worked so hard to build. Understand here that guys that obtain giant muscles through drug use know how to eat enough of the right calories in order to grow. The drugs will make up for a lot of bad training habits, but they cannot get big eating a poor diet.

Dosages ***end on the processing capability. Once again genetics play a major role, particularly with anabolics and androgens. These classes of drugs are like weight lifting in that once you reach your capacity, doing more sets will have a negative impact on the body. Insulin and growth hormone are like aerobics because they have a much higher abuse window. Getting to that size has nothing to do with health. Take a look at Jay Cutlers offseason pics. He has to get fat in order to put on more size so when he diets off the fat he will be bigger. Most people are afraid to go to these extremes-hence they never reach their full-genetic potential.

[MuscleScience]

Its good to see some guys here have took exercise phys 101.

[Ronnie Rowland]

#4 Its all about stimulation, Pros and experienced bb know how to squeeze every single muscle fiber. they have very good mind muscle connection.
if you dont have proper mind muscle connection you will never reach your full potential.
if you lift too heavy without mastering this you will have sloppy muscle, big all over. which doesnt look good IMO.
most pros as they get older use less weight, cause they know to stimulate the muscle by really squeezing it.

lets take curls for example.
i see people using 100+lbs with big but crappy arms.
they could get a much better workout with 40-50lbs by using just the biceps with proper form and control, which most cant do with 100+lbs.

i use to do curls with no weight and close my eyes and squeeze as hard as i could and tell my biceps to curl. i would get a insane pump that HURT, then i would slowly add weight, but never lose that feeling. if i use too much weight i cant feel the biceps working.
try this if your arms are less than satisfactory, i guarantee they will grow.
you have to tell your bicep to curl till you master it. then it will become 2nd nature.
i hope this helps.

Agreed!

[Columbus]

I am often asked “Why are today’s top level bodybuilders bigger than the guys back in the 70-80’s?” There are 6 good reasons. 1) They are training smarter by using less overall training volume. The majority of guys during the Arnold era did not know about over-training nor did they train to get stronger on a progressive basis. 2) Better nutrition. 3) More aerobics. 4) Improved supplement. 5) More drugs such as IGF-1 Long R-3, Mechano Growth Factors, Prostaglandins, Synthol, Clenbuterol, Thyroid hormones, and Anti-estrogens. In addition, some are using much larger dosages of insulin, testosterone, growth hormone, etc. High doses of testosterone and growth hormone were unheard of back then and small dosages of insulin were being used by diabetic bodybuilders for the most part. Many of today’s top competitors are using a larger variety of drugs to create a synergistic effect and they are also a lot more knowledgeable in how to use them. 6) We now have more genetically gifted individuals. There are more people involved in bodybuilding today than there was back in the 70-80’s. The more people involved in a sport, the greater the potential for gifted athletes.


As far as dosages are concerned, some of these top-level competitors take moderate amounts and respond really well and other guys have to take massive amounts to get a similar effect. How each individual responds to the side effects of these drugs also plays a large factor in the final outcome. Some people can take rather small amounts of these drugs and experience side effects such as an increase in blood pressure and elevated liver enzymes, where as others can take a lot and seem to be no worse off for it. Some take what’s considered fairly large amounts and suffer through the negative side effects in order to make the desired gains. This can be dangerous! I've known of a few competitive bodybuilders that had great genetics-muscle bellies and responded great to small dosages, but most need moderate to high doses. I've seen some guys double their doses and get nothing out of it and I've watched others double their doses and make nearly triple the gains. My point is everyone responds differently to these drugs. What might be considered use for one guy could be considered abuse to someone else’s body and this is a major problem with any form of pharmaceutical drug.

The bigger a pro-bodybuilders becomes, the more receptors they create. Therefore, they increase their body’s capacity to use larger amounts of these synthetic hormones. This is precisely why a newbie who mega-doses experience more side-effects than gains as opposed to a very large bodybuilder who gradually ramps up their dosages over time in a linear fashion.

Although most keep it a secret, there are a large percentage of professional bodybuilders that push upwards of 4 to 8 grams per week with anabolics/androgens alone. They don't do it all year long because it would make them ill, but they do multiple short term blitz cycles a year at that level. Others will ramp up to near that level from their current level when it’s time to prepare for a competition. In addition, rumors have surfaced about the new myostatin inhibitor called ACVR2B. Some claim it’s the most powerful muscle building agent known to man.

The smooth-flat look possessed by some during the off-season is from the excess calories and water retention. In order to reach freak status, they have to eat in a way that puts on both muscle and fat. Then, they diet off the added bodyfat while maintaining the muscle they have worked so hard to build. Understand here that guys that obtain giant muscles through drug use know how to eat enough of the right calories in order to grow. The drugs will make up for a lot of bad training habits, but they cannot get big eating a poor diet.

Dosages ***end on the processing capability. Once again genetics play a major role, particularly with anabolics and androgens. These classes of drugs are like weight lifting in that once you reach your capacity, doing more sets will have a negative impact on the body. Insulin and growth hormone are like aerobics because they have a much higher abuse window. Getting to that size has nothing to do with health. Take a look at Jay Cutlers offseason pics. He has to get fat in order to put on more size so when he diets off the fat he will be bigger. Most people are afraid to go to these extremes-hence they never reach their full-genetic potential.

so when I said or asked if AAS and a ton of cals will bring on good clean mass without HEAVY HEAVY lifting, it is correct...just as long as there is stimulus...


BTW - I spoke with cutler over the course of 3 weeks (prob. 10 times) he DOES not get obese anymore.....10-20lbs over MAX...

[Ronnie Rowland]

so when I said or asked if AAS and a ton of cals will bring on good clean mass without HEAVY HEAVY lifting, it is correct...just as long as there is stimulus...


BTW - I spoke with cutler over the course of 3 weeks (prob. 10 times) he DOES not get obese anymore.....10-20lbs over MAX...

The term "HEAVY" is relative in this case because it's not how much weight you lift but how you do it. It's exactly like naturalsux suggested. The more weight one can use while utilizing the mind muscle link-the more msucle fibers are stimulated. Simply lifting a heavy weight won't give you maximum results.

Cutler no longer needs to get overly fat in the off-season to get huge because he's already there. However, many of us would have to get fat while putting on mass. Then an anabolic like tren could be used to hold onto the mass while dieting down. Does that make sense?

[Columbus]

Sure it does. Thanks. So what is the recipe for putting on size.....i.e. training style, food intake, and gear (if one chose that route)

then what can be done to get ripped......supersets, cardio, lower caloric intake.....any gear that just destroys fat, I know tren will hold onto mass, bt how do aas like winnt, clen, eq work? Possible to get ripped from these?

[chest6]

That Jay pic is a photoshop...said Jay.

[Ronnie Rowland]

That Jay pic is a photoshop...said Jay.

I too was wondering about that..Thanks for the info...Still yet, the theory still applies.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Sure it does. Thanks. So what is the recipe for putting on size.....i.e. training style, food intake, and gear (if one chose that route)

then what can be done to get ripped......supersets, cardio, lower caloric intake.....any gear that just destroys fat, I know tren will hold onto mass, bt how do aas like winnt, clen, eq work? Possible to get ripped from these?

These are some great questions and a bit involved. I have a limited amount of time, so I will answer each question one at a time. The various training phases come straight from the Slingshot Training System i am using ona a top-level bodybuilder. I do "NOT" have permission from my publisher to hand out the entire routine. I wish I could. At least, this will give you a generalized idea of what works well for top-level competitors.


1) Training style:

[Ronnie Rowland]

Sure it does. Thanks. So what is the recipe for putting on size.....i.e. training style, food intake, and gear (if one chose that route)

then what can be done to get ripped......supersets, cardio, lower caloric intake.....any gear that just destroys fat, I know tren will hold onto mass, bt how do aas like winnt, clen, eq work? Possible to get ripped from these?

Food intake: You need to eat a mixed balanced diet in the off-season. Four to five meals max. Eating too many meals will increase the metabolism and can make it difficult to put on muscular weight. The only thing metabolism dictates is the amount of calories needed in each meal. Once you reach your 1.5 grams of protein per pound of body weight while eating a ratio of around 33.3% protein, 33% carbs, and 33% fats, you will need to increase both fats and carbs with about equal measures from that point on while de-emphasizing protein intake. It’s fine to eat some additional protein past the 1.5 gram per pound of bodyweight mark through nuts, etc in order to get in healthy fat calories to grow, but your main focus will be on consuming additional healthy fats and slow burning carbs once the protein deductible has been met. This will allow you to put on muscular weight without over-heating your metabolism and feeling bloated all the time. Fat and carb sources are also much cheaper than protein!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Sure it does. Thanks. So what is the recipe for putting on size.....i.e. training style, food intake, and gear (if one chose that route)

then what can be done to get ripped......supersets, cardio, lower caloric intake.....any gear that just destroys fat, I know tren will hold onto mass, bt how do aas like winnt, clen, eq work? Possible to get ripped from these?

Gear sample for advanced off-season bodybuilders using my Slingshot Training System's anabolic phases:
1.5-2grams of Test Enanthate per week for 21 weeks
600mg Equipoise per week for 21 weeks
600mg Deca per week for 21 weeks
75mgs of tren acetate daily for weeks 3-7, weeks 10-14, weeks 17-21
50 mgs of Dianabol daily for weeks 3-7 ,weeks 10-14, weeks 17-21
Humalog insulin 12ius pwo for 21 weeks
Humulin R insulin 3ius daily with each meal for weeks 3-7, weeks 10-14, weeks 17-21
80mcg IGF-1 LR3 daily for weeks 3-7, weeks 10-14, weeks 17-21 or 10 ius of GH per day for 21 weeks.

[Columbus]

Gear sample for advanced off-season bodybuilders using the Slingshot Training System's anabolic phases:
1.5-2grams of Test Enanthate per week for 21 weeks
600mg Equipoise per week for 21 weeks
600mg Deca per week for 21 weeks
75mgs of tren acetate daily for weeks 3-7, weeks 10-14, weeks 17-21
50 mgs of Dianabol daily for weeks 3-7 ,weeks 10-14, weeks 17-21
Humalog insulin 12ius pwo for 21 weeks
Humulin R insulin 3ius daily with each meal for weeks 3-7, weeks 10-14, weeks 17-21
80mcg IGF-1 LR3 daily for weeks 3-7, weeks 10-14, weeks 17-21 or 10 ius of GH per day for 21 weeks.

how about trraining split, sets, reps, etc......also, how would this cycle be tailored for one of us....would u reduce thed doses to normal for me?


AND 33%,x3 for all three macros...first I ever heard that............is that lean mass? what about 40,40,20?

[Ronnie Rowland]

how about trraining split, sets, reps, etc......also, how would this cycle be tailored for one of us....would u reduce thed doses to normal for me?


AND 33%,x3 for all three macros...first I ever heard that............is that lean mass? what about 40,40,20?

Intermediate dosages for off-season bodybuilders:
1 gram of Test Enanthate per week for entire 21 weeks
400mg Equipoise per week for entire 21 weeks
400mg Deca per week for entire 21 weeks
Tren 50 mgs ed during blasting and crusing phases (weeks 3-7, weeks 10-14 and weeks 17-21).
30mg Dianabol ed during blasting and crusing phases.
40mcg IGF-1 LR3 pwo on training days and am on non-training days during blasting and cruising phases-
Humulin R insulin 3ius daily with each meal during blasting and cruising phases.


There's not a lot of difference between a 40-40-20 and a 33.3-33.3-33.3. There's no need in eating more protein than fat when bulking. The only time more protein would be called for is during a cutting cycle. Dietary fats are just as important as carbs when trying to put on muscle size. Essential fatty acids result in increased prostaglandin levels. Prostaglandins can stop catabolism (muscle wasting) in its tracks. In fact, research has proven prostaglandins to be one of the most powerful anabolic activators in the body.

Again, I do not have persmission to give out the Training System I have been using that coincides with the above data, but if it were me I'd use more training volume and consume more calories during the blasting phase.