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    var vs t3 vs clen

    looking at adding ONE substance while running with test. (for fat loss)

    right now looking at var over t3 and clen because of safety issues. i mean sure, var does affect your liver - but with dosages and durations not overboard var is supposed to be mild. i don't really like compounds which mess with the heart.. i mean palpitations and stuff are kinda worrying..

    i'm hoping some guys who have used 2 or 3 of these compounds could state down their effectiveness for fat loss so i could weigh their side effects. for eg, could a mild dose of t3 burn more fat than moderate dosage of var - where the "mild" dose is really mild such that hardly any side effects have been reported (of course everyone is different, just looking at generally)

    and all these is of course with a clean diet and cardio.. not looking for a quick fix

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    sounds like you need to lift your skirt up and grab your ball*s hoss.

    all of those things aren't going to do much at all besides anavar, keeping the doses at least 30-100 mgs a day that is.

    taking t3 and clen?- sounds like you need to put your diet in check.

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    are the side effects THAT overrated?

    don't quite get your last line though

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    If we are talking fat burning only T3 wins. Since AAS does
    lower your T3 levels, you can add a low dose to your cycle.
    I added 50mcg/day with my last cycle.

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    yes fat burning only, i'm using test to preserve muscle mass.

    at 50 mcg/day what's the chances of those bad side effects takin place, like heart palpitation and stuff?

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    If you dont have any problems with your heart AND your diet is good
    i dont think you will have any problems with 50mcg.

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    alright, thank you

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    I can't think of three substances that are any more different. Var is a mild steroid, T3 is a thyroid supplement and clen is a bronchodilator. Your comparing apples to oranges here.

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    i guess you could say that, but i'm looking at the "best" for fat burning if there is even a best.

    they may be different, but i've seen test + var/t3/clen as a basic cutting cycle on this board..

    or am i wrong in attempting to compare these compounds? (looking strictly at fat loss)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightWolf View Post
    If we are talking fat burning only T3 wins.
    ^^Agreed, of the three, this is the most potent “one-trick pony” fat burning agent. As long as its used in conjunction with an aas cycle (to prevent catabolism), in the absence of pre-existing cardiovascular and thyroidal conditions, and is run responsibly (at appropriate dosages, and ramped up & down as directed).

    Here’s some additional reading info:
    http://www.fda.gov/cder/foi/label/2002/10379s47lbl.pdf
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    I always have the best fat burning results from clen and T3, but in your case i would throw in just the T3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrjingalang View Post
    I always have the best fat burning results from clen and T3, but in your case i would throw in just the T3.
    That's a great duo, or the whole trio for that matter as they all work differently, but as you cited he was only looking for one substance.
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    thanks to all who helped out!

    am in a bit of a rush now but will be sure to read that link later!

    thanks once again guys

    btw, when talking cardiovascular conditions we're talking about illnesses right? cause my cardiovascular system is weak lol. when going FULL OUT hiit i don't last 5 cycles. (full out means i imagine there's a lion chasing behind me and running for my life kinda full out)

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    When I speak of "pre-existing cardiovascular and thyroidal conditions" in relation to T3, I mean everything listed under the section entitled "IMPORTANT NOTES":

    http://www.kingpharm.com/kingpharm/P...?id_product=36
    Last edited by magic32; 01-28-2008 at 08:42 PM.
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    i am currently on a test only cycle and i want to lean up towards the end of the cycle. do u recommend t-3 or clen or should should i get some winny to do the trick?

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    I think anavar is a wonderful compound and would be beneficial with test in your case.

    I like the fullness and hardness it gives, but you'll have to administer 70+ mgs ED to really understand why it is so expensive.

    T3 and clen are both extremely difficult to dose, and the sides are very difficult to cope with.

    In all honesty, I'd look into HGH in conjunction with test if you want to really transform.

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    jumping on the bandwagon- 156 lbs, 14% bf, 5"11, 21 y.o. I just cycled off of my pct for a test e. and deca250 cycle. I'm looking for a lil advice to lean out and shed some fat. Having read the threads and info on t3(and how you must do pct for the t3 to not shock your thyroid) and the effects of clen. I am not much one for aas(pills) just for the liverdamage possible, since with var it is quite strong, what do ya'll prefer for maximum results haha?? thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by wayne69 View Post
    i am currently on a test only cycle and i want to lean up towards the end of the cycle. do u recommend t-3 or clen or should should i get some winny to do the trick?
    See post #10.


    Quote Originally Posted by thehalfbreed View Post
    jumping on the bandwagon- 156 lbs, 14% bf, 5"11, 21 y.o. I just cycled off of my pct for a test e. and deca250 cycle. I'm looking for a lil advice to lean out and shed some fat. Having read the threads and info on t3(and how you must do pct for the t3 to not shock your thyroid) and the effects of clen.

    THERE IS NO, PCT. YOU RAMP (PROGRESSIVELY INCREASE AND DECREASE) TO AND FROM DESIRED DOSAGES. SEE LINK IN POST #10 SPECIFICALLY THE SECTION ENTITLED "DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION" FOR PROPER PROTOCOL, THOUGH BB'ERS TYPICALLY DO SO EVERY 3-4 DAYS.

    I am not much one for aas(pills) just for the liverdamage possible, since with var it is quite strong, what do ya'll prefer for maximum results haha??

    THE SCOPE AND DEPTH OF YOUR QUESTIONS, DENOTE THAT MORE RESEARCH SHOULD BE ADHERED TO RATHER THAN JUST SHOTGUN Q & A’S. TAKE YOUR TIME AND REALLY READ UP ON THIS STUFF BEFORE RESUMING. SOME PEOPLE GET GREAT RESULTS AT 10MGS (http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=312297), MOST NOT UNTIL 40MGS, OTHERS ELECT FOR 60MGS, I FOUND OPTIMAL RESULTS AT 80MGS, TRIED 90 & 100 WITH NO INCREASED BENEFIT.
    STOP THE PRESSES!!!

    Sorry I just saw this...156lbs at 5'11'' after a Test/Deca cycle. Bru, you need to hold up on the aas for a while and learn how to eat and train for bb'ing. There are some great resources here for these purposes:

    Workout: http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3
    Diet: http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6
    Supplement: http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=4
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