Dont get mad at me

[makemoney]

i am 6 ft tall and i was 225 pounds i am know 185 due to a good diet and working out. I have been doing a lot of training but I just wont grow any muscle mass so I started doing a lot of reading on this site and I have desided to start a test cycle I am dead set on doing this no one can change my mind but I want to do it right. So in saying that if any senior mod has any suggestions on what I should take please tell me because i am going to to it anyway. thanks

[soccer#3]

haha dude dont do it!! jk

a typical beginners cycle consists of 10-12 weeks of 500mg/week of test e or c. followed up wit a proper pct

[jch3131]

How old are you? whats your BF%?

[admirals56]

im not a mod or a vet but if u have done as much research as u say u have u would no what cycle to run

[Big]

I'm mad at you
Just kidding, but I'm curious, it sounds like you need a lot of info, why would you want to limit the responses to senior mods or vets? We have some very knowledgeable new members here as well, just because some are new here doesn't mean they are new to gear.

[im83931]

im not a mod or a vet but if u have done as much research as u say u have u would no what cycle to run

I agree-everyone says that they have researched alot, and most ask the same question as you. The first cycle advice is only posted in about 50.67524% of the forums here.
And dont start until you have pct and an AI for emergencies.

[prima07]

im not a mod or a vet but if u have done as much research as u say u have u would no what cycle to run

iam sure he has done some research, he is probably just confused and wants some ideas and help. u should run test C or E 400-500mgs/week with some dianabol 20-40mgs/day. make sure you have some letro on hand or whatever works for u tho.

[prima07]

but u can never know enough so keep reading

[makemoney]

i have done alot of reading but just wanted to be sure. I didnt mean to piss anyone off damn. lol its all good
I will be doing a cycle consists of 10-12 weeks of 500mg/week of test e or c. followed up wit a proper pct thanks for your help i will be posting pics soon

[makemoney]

o yeah yes you do have some knowledgeable people on here

[bigtwin]

basic, simple but effective cycle is something like 500 mg's of sus a week, for 8-10 weeks. with 20-40 mg's of dbol for the first month. thats pretty basic and since you said youve never done anything before that should show some good results.

[prima07]

good luck man keep us posted how things go

[Schmidty]

wit ur first cycle u dont really need a oral. But it dontt hurt either, I had ad50n my first cycle and fvckn loved it

[Njord]

How old are you? whats your BF%?

Funny thing, this hasn't been answered yet. People are throwing out their cycle advice though. Guy could be 16 with 28% bf.

[PT]

if this is your first cycle but you have beem training for a few years then i would do something on the line of 500mgs of test enth or cyp shot once a week and 400mgs of deca shot once a week. i would stay away from the sust and omandren because you dont want to have to pock yourself eod on your first cycle and i would of suggested you stacked the test with eq but your pretty skinny and the deca will help you gain some weight.

[KJSolid]

basic, simple but effective cycle is something like 500 mg's of sus a week, for 8-10 weeks. with 20-40 mg's of dbol for the first month. thats pretty basic and since you said youve never done anything before that should show some good results.

Why would you recommend sust for a first cycle? You will need to shoot every other day with sust. I would personally stick to a long estered test.

[Panzerfaust80]

"I ain't mad at cha..."
--Tupac Shakur R.I.P.



how long u been liftin for? have alot of exp? thats what I would guage it on, (if i am ready or not)

[bigtwin]

shooting every other day with sus? sus250? if you shot every other day that would be a gram a week, if you shot twice a week that is 500 mgs. twice a weeks isnt bad. what are you talking about?

[Schmidty]

shooting every other day with sus? sus250? if you shot every other day that would be a gram a week, if you shot twice a week that is 500 mgs. twice a weeks isnt bad. what are you talking about?

U dont have2do a whole cc every time u shoot

[TheArtist]

my first and second cycle were test cyp, 250mg a week... IMHO, since it's your first cycle, i see no need to go up to 500mg unless you're not seeing results from 250... which even then, you should re-evaluate your diet. THEN... maybe up the dose.
again.. just my 2cents.

[bigtwin]

guys, what dont you understand

1 amp of sustanton 250, x2, =500. is in milligrams. 500 milligrams of sus250 a week is completely fine for him.

[Schmidty]

guys, what dont you understand

1 amp of sustanton 250, x2, =500. is in milligrams. 500 milligrams of sus250 a week is completely fine for him.

I understand 100% but if ur gona shoot sust ED or EOD who says u gota use a whole amp. In2make life easier, get vials so u dont gota use amps.

[largerthannormal]

my first and second cycle were test cyp, 250mg a week... IMHO, since it's your first cycle, i see no need to go up to 500mg unless you're not seeing results from 250... which even then, you should re-evaluate your diet. THEN... maybe up the dose.
again.. just my 2cents.

how would he know if he seen results from 250 if this is his first cycle...500 is normal just stick with what u were originall thinking bro ..ur on the right track!

[KJSolid]

Sustanon contains test propriate and test phenylpropriate as two of the four tests in it? Well prop should be shot at least every other day and phenylpropriate every third day minimum. It is because of this that I recommend shooting it every other day. You don't have to use a whole amp every shot Bigtwin. That is what I am talking about, any questions?

[Njord]

guys, what dont you understand

1 amp of sustanton 250, x2, =500. is in milligrams. 500 milligrams of sus250 a week is completely fine for him.

What don't you understand?
Let' do a little math here. EOD shots = 7 injections over two weeks (M,W,F,Su,T,Th, Sa and repeat).
125mg (1/2cc) x 7 = 437mg/week.
Just because you have a 1ml amps. doesn't mean you have to use it all at one.

[sphincter]

did we ever find out how old this guy is? The language in the post sounds like a younger person to me though his size indicates he is a decently sized guy... Just wondering as I skimmed teh thread I didn't see his answer to age.

[KJSolid]

Exactly ^^^

[KJSolid]

That exactly was intended for NJord's post

[TheArtist]

how would he know if he seen results from 250 if this is his first cycle...500 is normal just stick with what u were originall thinking bro ..ur on the right track!

it's easy, you look at your body, and if it's changing, then you're seeing results...You don't just see new muscle at the end of your cycle. It's gained gradually... To elaborate, If he's not putting on the size he feels he should, then perhaps up the dose. HOWEVER, like i stated... diet is primary.
But you're right, 500mg a week seems to be "standard".

[djcj2002]

Still no answer on age and BF%??

[TheArtist]

don't know his age, but if he's 6ft. 185lbs. he's fairly lean, unless he has very little to no muscle mass.
This is only a guesstimation, based from my own height and weight.