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    Next Cycle

    I've been working on my next cycle and trying to incorporate some new things I've learned here. On the surface it may look like a pyramid type but its goal is geared more towards starting and ending the hormones as quick as possible to help in recovery. My other cycles have been much more straight forward with no Arimidex or Hcg during, plus I've never used cyp and prop together during any cycle. My current stats are:

    Mid 30's
    5-9
    256lbs.
    16-18%
    19 years exp. / prob. 10 actual
    picture in profile

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    Week
    1. 750mgs. T-cyp / 100mg. T-prop ed / 100mg. Tren-A ed / 50mgs. Diana ed / .25mgs. Arimidex ed

    2. 500mgs. T-cyp / 100mg. T-prop ed / 100mg. Tren-A ed / 75mgs. Diana ed / .25mgs. Arim ed

    3. 500mgs. T-cyp / 75mgs. T-prop ed / 100mg. Tren-A ed / 100mgs. Diana ed / .5mgs. Arim ed

    4. 500mgs. T-cyp / 75mgs. T-prop ed / 100mgs. Tren-A ed / 100mgs. Diana ed / .5mgs. Arim ed / 1,000 IU HCG

    5. 500mgs. T-cyp / 75mgs. T-prop ed / 100mgs. Tren-A ed / 75mgs. Diana ed / .5mgs Arim ed / 1,000 IU HCG

    6. 500mgs. T-cyp / 75mgs. T-prop ed / 100mgs. Tren-A ed / 50mgs. Diana ed / .25mgs Arim ed / 1,000 IU HCG

    7. 500mgs. T-cyp / 75mgs. T-prop ed / 100mgs. Tren-A ed / .25mgs. Arimidex

    8. 500mgs. T-cyp / 75mgs. T-prop ed / 100mgs. Tren-A ed / .25mgs. Arimidex

    9. 250mgs. T-cyp / 125mgs T-prop ed / .25mgs Arimidex ed

    10. 150mgs. T-prop ed / .25mgs Arimidex / 1,500 IU HCG

    11. Humulin 6IU post / 1,500 IU HCG / 60mgs., Nolva ed

    12. Humulin 8IU post / 1,500 IU HCG / 40mgs., Nolva ed

    13. Humulin 10IU post / 20mgs. Nolva ed

    14. Humulin 12IU post / 25mcg. T3

    15. Humulin 12IU post / 50mcg. T3 /

    16. Long R3 IGF-1 60mcg. ed / 75mcg. T3 /

    17. Long R3 IGF-1 80mcg. ed / 100mcg. T3 /

    18. Long R3 IGF-1 80mcg. ed / 75mcg. T3 /

    19. Long R3 Igf -1 60mcg. ed / 50mcg. T3 /

    20..............NEXT CYCLE..................................

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    Questions????????????

    1. Can I conserve on the Arimidex like above or should it be ran straight at .5 or do I need to run it even higher with these doses? (I quit using orals due to water but am willing to try it again with some of your advice).

    2. Tell me why I should run Clomid with Nolva? (seems like a waste)

    3. Will my blood levels be tolorable with this cycle? (I tried to stay at a gram)

    4. Is it ok to ramp the d-bol, the idea was to give the Arimidex time to get going, the reason for tapering it was simply not to crash off 100mgs.?

    5. Should I run the Tren-ace the full 10 weeks?

    6. Is the HCG correct after the bol and at the end? Doses?

    7.

    Thanks Guys
    Last edited by MercyDog; 08-31-2008 at 08:15 PM.

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    this cycle is bizarre, and why in gods name are you running insulin?

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    wow you wrote that weeiirrd
    why do you have cyp and prop?
    i dont like all this pyramiding
    Quote Originally Posted by MercyDog View Post
    1. Can I conserve on the Arimidex like above or should it be ran straight at .5 or do I need to run it even higher with these doses? (I quit using orals do to water but am willing to try it again with some of your advice).
    stay even
    2. Tell me why I should run Clomid with Nolva? (seems like a waste)
    nolvas main use is estrogen control. clomids main use is test production.

    3. Will my blood levels be tolorable with this cycle? (I tried to stay at a gram)
    i dont like the pyramiding

    4. Is it ok to ramp the d-bol, the idea was to give the Arimidex time to get going, the reason for tapering it was simply not to crash off 100mgs.?
    okay yes smart no

    5. Should I run the Tren-ace the full 10 weeks?
    sure

    6. Is the HCG correct after the bol and at the end? Doses?
    hcg crash course
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4127466

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN View Post
    this cycle is bizarre, and why in gods name are you running insulin?
    I've never used it before, read up on it alot and thought I'd try it for a bridge instead of just IGF

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    Quote Originally Posted by MercyDog View Post
    I've never used it before, read up on it alot and thought I'd try it for a bridge instead of just IGF
    Neither have I, but it doesnt take an exceptional individual to figure out that the risk/reward ratio is not tilted in your favour. Besides, I thought it's purpose was limited to being used in conjunction with IGF, i may be wrong, but i certainly know that its not of use by itself.

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    189, I have cyp and prop. I was trying to get the test running quick with the prop in the beginning and cut it off quick at the end. It also saves a bunch of money getting to a gram a week. Its different for me but I figure its still a gram at the end of the week.

    So I need Clomid with HCG and Nolva, I'm used to Nolva only?

    I read your HCG post. Some use it once every five days. Some every 3 weeks. Some post cycle, some during cycle, ed, ect. 300 to 2500IU's, getting confused. I know what it does, been told you can wear it out also. I know I at least should use it at the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MercyDog View Post
    189, I have cyp and prop. I was trying to get the test running quick with the prop in the beginning and cut it off quick at the end. It also saves a bunch of money getting to a gram a week. Its different for me but I figure its still a gram at the end of the week.

    So I need Clomid with HCG and Nolva, I'm used to Nolva only?

    I read your HCG post. Some use it once every five days. Some every 3 weeks. Some post cycle, some during cycle, ed, ect. 300 to 2500IU's, getting confused. I know what it does, been told you can wear it out also. I know I at least should use it at the end.
    you can shhot it less often but i wouldnt shoot more often than e3d or more than 500iu per shot
    you need an ai in pct too

    my pct
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN View Post
    Neither have I, but it doesnt take an exceptional individual to figure out that the risk/reward ratio is not tilted in your favour. Besides, I thought it's purpose was limited to being used in conjunction with IGF, i may be wrong, but i certainly know that its not of use by itself.
    I do worry about the risks. As far as I know it can be used alone and is the most powerfull hormone known to man. I had read a really good article awhile back about rotating HGH, IGF, and Slin every 5 weeks and using T3. I'm trying to keep some solid gains coming all year but I can't afford HGH. It really bothers me lifting off cycle just to get smaller.

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    189, my brother don't have Proviron or Aromasin is there another name or is it a little rare? Does AR have it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MercyDog View Post
    I do worry about the risks. As far as I know it can be used alone and is the most powerfull hormone known to man. I had read a really good article awhile back about rotating HGH, IGF, and Slin every 5 weeks and using T3. I'm trying to keep some solid gains coming all year but I can't afford HGH. It really bothers me lifting off cycle just to get smaller.
    It might have been a good article, but the information inside it was probably retarded. 5 week cycles of hgh are bomb! (it takes several months to start working)

    This cycle is needlessly overcomplicated. I'll make you a deal: Write down what you have and how much of each and we work this one out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MercyDog View Post
    189, my brother don't have Proviron or Aromasin is there another name or is it a little rare? Does AR have it?
    these drugs cover estrogen:
    Arimidex aka Anastrozole (.25mg ed)
    Aromasin aka Exemestane (25mg ed)
    Proviron aka Mesterolone (50mg ed)

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=354229

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