Has anyone ever heard of getting gyno from a tren only cycle? Would you recommend it?
Has anyone ever heard of getting gyno from a tren only cycle? Would you recommend it?
Getting gyno can happen at any time.
And NO, I would not run it without Test.
Actually, they work great together.
Never run it without test. Specially tren its pretty hardcore
i don't think you'll find anyone on this board that will say Tren only is ok
May I ask WHY you would want to run Tren by itself?
have you ever used tren before?
Tren will shut your natural test OFF, so why would you want that shut down without replacing it with supplemental Test??
id never run tren only.. with that said ive never seen a case of gyno from only tren..
Bro, you've been a member since 06' and haven't researched enough to gather this knowledge?
It's not a good idea, unless your one of that that believes in abstinence.
You can actually run tren with low dose HCG and no test. The HCG will keep your test levels high enough for sexual performance. You just won't gain as much as you would if you take test along with it. I know some bros who want to keep their weight down for sports who have taken low dose tren with low dose HCG and gained strength without weight.
Not at all mate. These people are actually quite high level athletes that compete in track and field. They aren't "just my buddies". The cycles suggested on this forum are for bodybuilders, not track and field athletes. The track & field bros normally never go above 15mg-20mg tren acetate per day, often a lot less and still get good strength gains from it. Higher doses of tren cause shortness of breath, so therefore impede endurance. Their reason for not running test along with tren is to prevent too much weight gain. With low dose tren and low dose HCG you can increase strength quite a bit with no weight gain. That means better power to weight ratio and thus better performance.
It doesn't matter whether the OP is going to run it at a high or low dose. Regardless of dose tren shuts people down fast. That's why testosterone is recommended since test is essential for many different functions in the body.
When taking tren you are not producing any testosterone so therefore you either need to take testosterone - even 100mg per week will suffice - or run HCG along with the tren (300iu eod has been shown in studies to maintain physiological normal levels of testosterone whilst on a cycle).
I never said don't run test, I was the one advocating test while you were advocating HCG. I was saying that if you run Tren that low that HCG would be fine, but when your running 500+mg of tren a week, I would rely on test rather than HCG to keep me functioning.
One vial of 10ml test(250mg/ml) taken at 200mg/week would be cheaper (at least for me) than taking HCG for 10 weeks (EOD)
^^^^ Beat me to it PT. I was running when i started the cycle, but now i'm 3 weeks into it and i'm getting winded on high rep workouts. And now i'm only doing 4.0 on treadmill. Happens everytime.
tren kills my lung capacity and cardio performance. Can't do rest pause reps effectively (DC style training) since i have to rest longer between sets to catch my breath. And forget about cardio. BC of it shutting down my cardio and how irritable i am already when i am dieting and cutting down i prefer tren for bulking. But there is not a more effective cutting drug if you can deal with the sides - it smokes winstrol in a big way. However fina and winstrol together is the best my body ever looked.
Bro, tren taken in the kind of doses bodybuilders take certainly kills endurance, but track & field guys don't take anywhere near that much tren. What they take is anywhere from 10mg-20mg per day and no more. Now you might think that this low dose would be useless but it's not. Low dose tren does not adversely affect endurance and can boost strength quite a bit without added weight gain which is exactly what these guys are after. Btw they are training for sprint events up to 400m and long and tripple jump.
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