tren only cycle

[DanMan250]

You can actually run tren with low dose HCG and no test. The HCG will keep your test levels high enough for sexual performance. You just won't gain as much as you would if you take test along with it. I know some bros who want to keep their weight down for sports who have taken low dose tren with low dose HCG and gained strength without weight.

[Immortal Soldier]

You can actually run tren with low dose HCG and no test. The HCG will keep your test levels high enough for sexual performance. You just won't gain as much as you would if you take test along with it. I know some bros who want to keep their weight down for sports who have taken low dose tren with low dose HCG and gained strength without weight.

Just because your buddies do something, doesn't mean it is good to do.

That's like me saying "Well, some friends of mine run Deca only cycles. So you can run Deca if you want, they turned out fine"

[DanMan250]

Just because your buddies do something, doesn't mean it is good to do.

That's like me saying "Well, some friends of mine run Deca only cycles. So you can run Deca if you want, they turned out fine"

Not at all mate. These people are actually quite high level athletes that compete in track and field. They aren't "just my buddies". The cycles suggested on this forum are for bodybuilders, not track and field athletes. The track & field bros normally never go above 15mg-20mg tren acetate per day, often a lot less and still get good strength gains from it. Higher doses of tren cause shortness of breath, so therefore impede endurance. Their reason for not running test along with tren is to prevent too much weight gain. With low dose tren and low dose HCG you can increase strength quite a bit with no weight gain. That means better power to weight ratio and thus better performance.

[Immortal Soldier]

Not at all mate. These people are actually quite high level athletes that compete in track and field. They aren't "just my buddies". The cycles suggested on this forum are for bodybuilders, not track and field athletes. The track & field bros normally never go above 15mg-20mg tren acetate per day, often a lot less and still get good strength gains from it. Higher doses of tren cause shortness of breath, so therefore impede endurance. Their reason for not running test along with tren is to prevent too much weight gain. With low dose tren and low dose HCG you can increase strength quite a bit with no weight gain. That means better power to weight ratio and thus better performance.

I see, I didn't expect your friends to be running tren that low, however I don't think this applies to this situation. The OP is probably going to be running tren at reuglar-high doses.

[DanMan250]

I see, I didn't expect your friends to be running tren that low, however I don't think this applies to this situation. The OP is probably going to be running tren at reuglar-high doses.

It doesn't matter whether the OP is going to run it at a high or low dose. Regardless of dose tren shuts people down fast. That's why testosterone is recommended since test is essential for many different functions in the body.
When taking tren you are not producing any testosterone so therefore you either need to take testosterone - even 100mg per week will suffice - or run HCG along with the tren (300iu eod has been shown in studies to maintain physiological normal levels of testosterone whilst on a cycle).

[Immortal Soldier]

It doesn't matter whether the OP is going to run it at a high or low dose. Regardless of dose tren shuts people down fast. That's why testosterone is recommended since test is essential for many different functions in the body.
When taking tren you are not producing any testosterone so therefore you either need to take testosterone - even 100mg per week will suffice - or run HCG along with the tren (300iu eod has been shown in studies to maintain physiological normal levels of testosterone whilst on a cycle).

I never said don't run test, I was the one advocating test while you were advocating HCG. I was saying that if you run Tren that low that HCG would be fine, but when your running 500+mg of tren a week, I would rely on test rather than HCG to keep me functioning.

One vial of 10ml test(250mg/ml) taken at 200mg/week would be cheaper (at least for me) than taking HCG for 10 weeks (EOD)

[PT]

Not at all mate. These people are actually quite high level athletes that compete in track and field. They aren't "just my buddies". The cycles suggested on this forum are for bodybuilders, not track and field athletes. The track & field bros normally never go above 15mg-20mg tren acetate per day, often a lot less and still get good strength gains from it. Higher doses of tren cause shortness of breath, so therefore impede endurance. Their reason for not running test along with tren is to prevent too much weight gain. With low dose tren and low dose HCG you can increase strength quite a bit with no weight gain. That means better power to weight ratio and thus better performance.

you have track and field friends that run tren alone? doubtful since tren is the worst steroid for and kind of cardio activity. it effects your breathing and will make you feel winded alot faster then normal

[DanMan250]

you have track and field friends that run tren alone? doubtful since tren is the worst steroid for and kind of cardio activity. it effects your breathing and will make you feel winded alot faster then normal

Bro, tren taken in the kind of doses bodybuilders take certainly kills endurance, but track & field guys don't take anywhere near that much tren. What they take is anywhere from 10mg-20mg per day and no more. Now you might think that this low dose would be useless but it's not. Low dose tren does not adversely affect endurance and can boost strength quite a bit without added weight gain which is exactly what these guys are after. Btw they are training for sprint events up to 400m and long and tripple jump.