Dumb Question

[northerntouch]

I've been reading and researching as much as i can but still can find the answers I'm looking for. I'm hoping someone can explain to me in layman's terms please. This will be my second cycle; My first cycle wasn't really a cycle, no pct just blind madness. Im 31yrs 185lbs presently. My question is.. I have four 10ml vials, two are test cyp 300mg/ml, one test enth 250mg/ml, and one tren acetate 100mg/ml is that enough to do a cycle? what would be the correct way cycle with these? Could someone please also explain, for example what 300mg/ml means. And finally if I do have enough gear, can someone be patient enough to give me a cycle in cc's. I tried to search these questions on this site with no luck so now I'm asking you guy's for help. Again I apologize if these are really retarded questions.

[Mammon]

you have enough test.. not enough knowledge yet..
all the info is here..
after a little research put something together for us to look at..

[hankdiesel]

you have enough test.. not enough knowledge yet..
all the info is here..
after a little research put something together for us to look at..

^x2 on that. In additon, you don't have enough tren. You do however have more than enough test.

[T-MOS]

My question is how does someone come across a certain amount of vials without even knowing what they have or how they work or what to do with them???

did somebody just drop off a bag to you and you found that stuff inside??

NO, you do not have enough to do a CORRECT cycle.

You don't have Nolvadex
you dont' have Clomid
You don't hvae an AI
You dont' have HCG

Your first cycle, and you certainly sholdnt be doing TREN at all but you don't have enough of that for more than a few weeks at best

How tall are you

what is your bodyfat %

what are your goals in using these vials

What is your diet like

You need to know and understand what you are about to put in your body...BEFORE you acquire vials

[northerntouch]

Thank for the reply, I'm not going to start any cycle until all my research is done. I promise you guy's that, I wanna do it right this time. So how much more tren do I need? Can anyone answer my questions though please and thank you. I'm honestly gonna write this shit down.

[CHUCKYthentic]

300mg/ml is the concentration per ml

for example, the number 1 on the syringe is 1ml, so if the syrige were filled up to the number 1, you would have 300mg/ml, if it were filled up to the number 2, itd be 600mg

[hankdiesel]

This is his second cycle. The first time I did a cycle, I bought two bottles of test from a guy at the gym and wasn't sure exactly how to take it. After I got the stuff I asked someone I trusted for help.

[northerntouch]

Okay that's simple to understand, some of yall are too scientific for me lol.

[CHUCKYthentic]

(alot of what T mos said) and you dont need to worry about getting tren man, you re not ready for tren IMO

you DO need to get nolva, clomid and an AI

[northerntouch]

That's pct your talking about so when do you introduce that into your cylce

[CHUCKYthentic]

PCT= Post Cylce Therapy, therefore at the end of your cycle

[northerntouch]

So say for example I did just a test enth and test cyp cylce which would you do first and why?

[CHUCKYthentic]

well not necessarily at the end of your cycle exactly, but sometime after depending on the ester of the compounds

keep diggin around here and do some self educating man, you ll find everything you need

[T-MOS]

you didn't answer any of my questions, why should we answer yours???

[northerntouch]

I read somewhere here, could be wrong, guy taking pct stuff before they cycle. Is that posible

[CHUCKYthentic]

you should do one of the 2 IMO, not both

[CHUCKYthentic]

you didn't answer any of my questions, why should we answer yours???

^^^wait OP, this is a great point

you should answer the Qs

[northerntouch]

you didn't answer any of my questions, why should we answer yours???

Oh sorry man, what was the question, I really suck with computer's bro

[northerntouch]

Okay got your question, I have alot of friend that have done it with great success, they all seem healthy to me, and most of all I trust them. Like I said before I had an opportunity to get some so i did, considering where i live it's hard to get. What's so wrong with that I don't understand.

[hankdiesel]

I read somewhere here, could be wrong, guy taking pct stuff before they cycle. Is that posible

Bro, you're all over the place. You need to do some research on this site for a while. Look at past threads and you'll figure some of the basics out.

[CHUCKYthentic]

what we re looking for here, or what T mos is refering to is...

your height?
bf%
diet
desired goal for this

[northerntouch]

Wow you guy's just tearin me up, I was curious so I just asked question, again I apologize if I'm offending you guy's. T I will definetly do a lot more research, but treating me like a suspect is just cold bro

[CHUCKYthentic]

we re not flaming on you man its cool. alota peop come in here without alota of knowledge

we re all here to help you out, but you have to help us out

we need to know your stats and things of that nature in order to give you proper advice

[xephonics]

... asking for bf% diet and goal is teaming up?

I think they are acting more parent/big brother like. They want to make sure you know what your doing/putting in you.

[northerntouch]

Okay I'm 6'3 and 185lbs, 9% bodyfat, . How much calories would I need to achive 220lbs. I handle diet soon with more research of course, Is it possilbe with the gear I have now to achive this. And I now diet is a major part of course.

[CHUCKYthentic]

35lbs is asking for a lot, may take u a little longer than what u are expecting

like you said, diet is the key

at 6'3 you should already be over 200 with a solid diet

[T-MOS]

Wow you guy's just tearin me up, I was curious so I just asked question, again I apologize if I'm offending you guy's. T I will definetly do a lot more research, but treating me like a suspect is just cold bro

Not trying to be cold here man, just trying to get the facts so we can better advise you

this is the internet, if I dont' have a complete picture of you and what you do , eat , train, ect....how can I tell you what cycle to do, or not to do

we need the information to give you educated informed advice

[xephonics]

I'll go ahead and ask this:

How long have you been weight training? I only ask this due to your low weight to hieght ratio. You don't want to jump into roids w/o a solid history of weight lifting, since your ligaments/tendons will not be developed enough to handle the muscle gains.

Just a bit of advice from a relative newcomer to the AS world, but a ~10 yr history of weight lifting.

[T-MOS]

Okay I'm 6'3 and 185lbs, 9% bodyfat, . How much calories would I need to achive 220lbs. I handle diet soon with more research of course, Is it possilbe with the gear I have now to achive this. And I now diet is a major part of course.

see, now here is the thing. at 6'3 and ONLY 185, that tells me DIET is your problem (this is why we need all the info on you)

steroids will help you gain, then you will lose everything you gained because you do not know how to eat right yet

you friends may look or seem healthy, but you don't know what is really going on inside them and what they will look like 6 months after they are done

If you can't eat NOW to get to your natural potential of about 230-240, then you probably will not be able to gain well off of steroids

SO, diet is your first area to improve,

sorry if this isn't what you want to hear, but you come to the best, so you get the best advice

if you just want someone to tell you to go ahead and do steroids, then you came to the wrong place, as we are here to make sure you do this the safest and healthiest way possible

if you want to do it safely, then we are here to help

[northerntouch]

Damn, are you serious? 200lbs natural? Now that would be a dream come true bro. Okay here one for you, I mentioned earlier I did a mess up cycle before right? How come I started 170lbs went up to 200lbs but came down to where I'm at now at 185lbs, what happen there?

[northerntouch]

see, now here is the thing. at 6'3 and ONLY 185, that tells me DIET is your problem (this is why we need all the info on you)

steroids will help you gain, then you will lose everything you gained because you do not know how to eat right yet

you friends may look or seem healthy, but you don't know what is really going on inside them and what they will look like 6 months after they are done

If you can't eat NOW to get to your natural potential of about 230-240, then you probably will not be able to gain well off of steroids

SO, diet is your first area to improve,

sorry if this isn't what you want to hear, but you come to the best, so you get the best advice

if you just want someone to tell you to go ahead and do steroids, then you came to the wrong place, as we are here to make sure you do this the safest and healthiest way possible

if you want to do it safely, then we are here to help

Hey keep the advice coming I need it all trust me.

[xephonics]

You don't really get to keep ALL of your gains when you are not on a cycle.

1) your natural test lvls kinda limit the amount of muscle you can keep on your body.

2) as you said you did not PCT, your test lvls were extremely low for a while after your cycle. So your muscle loss was kinda high due to improper cycle/pct.

[T-MOS]

Damn, are you serious? 200lbs natural? Now that would be a dream come true bro. Okay here one for you, I mentioned earlier I did a mess up cycle before right? How come I started 170lbs went up to 200lbs but came down to where I'm at now at 185lbs, what happen there?

POOR PCT !!!

and that will happen again cause you don't eat right

[T-MOS]

FIRST

post up your typical days food intake and times you eat


lets start at the beginning

[northerntouch]

Oh I also notice after awhile I had no motivation, to go to gym and took time off is that due also to poor pct

[northerntouch]

I'm honestly embarrassed my diet is terrible, your right, today i learned that steroids are useless without the proper diet. I forgot to metion I was a semi professional sprinter so I've been training weight training scince i was 14yrs. Now I would love to become a bodybuilder, thanks for your reply's, I'll be heading for the nutrition section, and I'm going to post pictures and progress. Again thank you brother's for your honest advice, and look out Ronnie coleman lol no seriously.

[T-MOS]

Oh I also notice after awhile I had no motivation, to go to gym and took time off is that due also to poor pct

YEP, and your friends are gonna experience the same results.


Steroids are NOT magic pills you just take and get BIG and LEAN... there is SO much more you need to do, starting with being disciplined with your LIFE, DIET, TRAINING,REST

Still waiting for your typical days food intake...

you need to read these posts and answer everything BEFORE you continue to ask questions, I HATE repeating myself especially when I have to type it

[northerntouch]

YEP, and your friends are gonna experience the same results.


Steroids are NOT magic pills you just take and get BIG and LEAN... there is SO much more you need to do, starting with being disciplined with your LIFE, DIET, TRAINING,REST

Still waiting for your typical days food intake...

you need to read these posts and answer everything BEFORE you continue to ask questions, I HATE repeating myself especially when I have to type it

Hey T I apologize for making you repeat yourself bro. I know your going to jump on me for this and I deseve it but I just dont know how to fix it. okay her it goes I'm lucky if I eat three times a day. I never really been a big eater growing up. when i do eat there is no set portion, I eat till I'm full and I wont be hungry for a least six hours. How can I train my body to eat 6 to 7 times a day?

[T-MOS]

Hey T I apologize for making you repeat yourself bro. I know your going to jump on me for this and I deseve it but I just dont know how to fix it. okay her it goes I'm lucky if I eat three times a day. I never really been a big eater growing up. when i do eat there is no set portion, I eat till I'm full and I wont be hungry for a least six hours. How can I train my body to eat 6 to 7 times a day?

I am not here to JUMP on you, just get you to see how to get to your goals

so, the way you are going about it, you already know doesn't work

When I needed to start eating 6 times a day, i had set my watch to countdown every 2.5 hours

the thing is , if you want this, then you need to find what works for you

there is a diet section here with sample diets, you can go about doing things the way you are doing them, but you know the results won't last and you could screw up your body for life

start small
believe it or not, it will take about two weeks, then your body will actually start getting hungry every 2-3 hours.....