Diet and aas

[johnCash]

age 24
height 5 11
weight 145
bodyfat % dont know
diet veagan
training 6 days week
GOALS For this lean muscle

hey im new to aas but not to training and thinking about trying (first time) dbol with thrust and possibly anavar too.
im very serious and just read the page on diet there, but i cant really change the diet because i have food alergies.
a bit of backgroud i started at 150 when i was a teen and gained 25 lbs to 175 with just food, hard work and protein powder but when i moved out on my own i developed food allergies beacuse of a poor diet prob and basically dwindled away to where i am now but i wasnt training either during the weight loss. anyway i can maintain my weight now with the new diet but its all pretty low calories but very healthy. i can eat chicken, fish, lamb, turkey and eggs but no beef, pork, wheat, corn, sugar or dairy products.
do you think i would have a hard time gaining weight, even with the products? im eating 2000 cals/day and im sure i can do more if im training hard and using products.

[AandF6969]

Write out a typical days diet with times you eat meals and amounts of food at each meal.

Also give us a detailed description of your training program.

[eatrainrest]

age 24
height 5 11
weight 145
bodyfat % dont know
diet veagan
training 6 days week
GOALS For this lean muscle

hey im new to aas but not to training and thinking about trying (first time) dbol with thrust and possibly anavar too.
im very serious and just read the page on diet there, but i cant really change the diet because i have food alergies.
a bit of backgroud i started at 150 when i was a teen and gained 25 lbs to 175 with just food, hard work and protein powder but when i moved out on my own i developed food allergies beacuse of a poor diet prob and basically dwindled away to where i am now but i wasnt training either during the weight loss. anyway i can maintain my weight now with the new diet but its all pretty low calories but very healthy. i can eat chicken, fish, lamb, turkey and eggs but no beef, pork, wheat, corn, sugar or dairy products.
do you think i would have a hard time gaining weight, even with the products? im eating 2000 cals/day and im sure i can do more if im training hard and using products.

you need to eat well more than 2000 bro. you DO NOT NEED AAS at allll. you need to research more and read these links then linger around here for a while and post a porposed diet/bmr, goals, and more. NOT AAS if you dont know how to eat!

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=384553
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=384009
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=384395
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=384006
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=323516
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=383337
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=348723
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=380883

[Phate]

Write out a typical days diet with times you eat meals and amounts of food at each meal.

Also give us a detailed description of your training program.

we definitely need this as we will have to work around your food allergies


have you ever gone to an allergy specialist to see if they are hereditary or from eating the same foods too often?

[johnCash]

im not saying i only eat 2000 p/day its just a guess.

have you ever gone to an allergy specialist to see if they are hereditary or from eating the same foods too often?
ya i have and it is from eating the same foods too often im sure. too much take out and fast food. but a normal days meals now are
10 am 2 packs of plain oatmeal with cinamom and blueberrys and multi vitamin
1pm 2-3 peices of chicken with rice, fries and salad or fruit
6pm 2 turkey sausages with potatoes rice and veggies
10pm 2-3 peices of chicken with rice, fries and salad or fruit
sometimes i sub salmon for chicken but thats pretty normal and occasionaly (1-2week) ive have a whopper or big mac or protein shake. and ive been doin this for about 8 months and staying at 145-150 lbs. also i only started training 2.5 weeks ago and could prob start to eat more.

[johnCash]

and for training
monday chest 4 sets of 4 dif. exercises 6-10 reps per. and pyramiding the weight and reps accordingly like always
tuesday biceps 4 sets of 4 dif. exercises 6-10 reps per.
wedsday legs quads 4 sets of 4 dif. exercises 6-10 reps per. hamstrings 4 sets of 2 dif. exercises 6-10 reps per. calfves 4 sets of 3 dif. exercises 6-10 reps per
thursday back 4 sets of 4 dif. exercises 6-10 reps per.
friday triceps 4 sets of 4 dif. exercises 6-10 reps per
sat shoulders 4 sets of 4 dif. exercises 6-10 reps per abs and core 4 sets of 3 dif. exercises 6-10 reps per
and i usually do 30-60 min of cardio one day a week

[eatrainrest]

im not saying i only eat 2000 p/day its just a guess.

have you ever gone to an allergy specialist to see if they are hereditary or from eating the same foods too often?
ya i have and it is from eating the same foods too often im sure. too much take out and fast food. but a normal days meals now are
10 am 2 packs of plain oatmeal with cinamom and blueberrys and multi vitaminWAY TO MUCH SUGAR, also not getting any protein, this does no absolutely no good but further your catabolic process
1pm 2-3 peices of chicken with rice, fries and salad or fruityea this is a problem, fries, and fruit for insulin spike and how much chicken is it? 2 40 oz pieces or two 2 oz? be exact if you can, and white rice? to high of GI
6pm 2 turkey sausages with potatoes rice and veggies
10pm 2-3 peices of chicken with rice, fries and salad or fruitsame thing here this has all gotta go your doing alot of damaging eating this late with HIGh Gi carbs. i would elminate this all and use a slow digesting protein with healthy EFA
sometimes i sub salmon for chicken but thats pretty normal and occasionaly (1-2week) ive have a whopper or big mac or protein shake.no way bro, its going to take alot more effort than just cutting out fast food and ive been doin this for about 8 months and staying at 145-150 lbs. also i only started training 2.5 weeks ago and could prob start to eat more.

glad you came for a cirituq but the diet sucks and we need to start from scratch. make sure you watch all those dvd vids in the 5th link and the rest of the threads as well to further your education process! and phate will also help with your food allergies.

[eatrainrest]

and for training
monday chest 4 sets of 4 dif. exercises 6-10 reps per. and pyramiding the weight and reps accordingly like always
this is too many sets of chest
tuesday biceps 4 sets of 4 dif. exercises 6-10 reps per.
this is too many sets of biceps, and why would you just do BI's? this isnt guido nation... lol jk but you have to implement others
wedsday legs quads 4 sets of 4 dif. exercises 6-10 reps per. to many sets again
hamstrings 4 sets of 2 dif.id chop to 6 at max for hams exercises 6-10 reps per. calfves 4 sets of 3 dif.again too much exercises 6-10 reps per
thursday back 4 sets of 4 dif. too muchexercises 6-10 reps per.
friday triceps 4 sets of 4 dif.way too much, why would you just do tris? comibe biceps triceps and shoulders on one day exercises 6-10 reps per
sat shoulders 4 sets of 4 dif. exercises 6-10 reps per abs and core 4 sets of 3 dif. exercises 6-10 reps pertoo much
and i usually do 30-60 min of cardio one day a week

what intensity and when? this will make all the difference

ok so, your obviously overtraining. throw it out. i liek the rep ranges thats baout it. you should do a 4-day split or try slingshot training. again, the threads i sent answer all these questions. read, goodluck

[johnCash]

its pretty intense usually i go till i cant lift. and the timing is dif all the time sometimes its morning to mid day and other times its 10pm. what do you suggest then? 3 sets of 4 exercises? for most muscles

[eatrainrest]

how long have you been on that training program and how have results been lately?

[eatrainrest]

i was doing plenty of sets simliar to you, and then i got educated and certified.. after that i cut the sets literally in half and went up 30lbs on bench and everything else increaesd dramatically, it was liek i was on AAS. craziness. tahts why i believe slingshot to be such a great effective method as it worked for me on accident. trust me if you have been doing this same routine for ever, use my 5 day workout in one of my threads and ill give you set ranges and yuoll see a big increase, given you have been runing this workout for x amount of time

[johnCash]

ive been doing this basically my whole training career so far. i started back when i was about 16 and gained 25 lbs in the first 2.5 months but that was on a completely dif diet. high protein and high cals like your suppose to. i ate alot, had protein powder and worked hard. and i worked out on and off for about 4 years. but in the last couple years i havent been wieghtlifting just at home sometimes to stay in shape. but since that first initial gain i never really gained any weight or size, i gained strength but that was it

[jfalco]

Sorry for the off topic comment, but your diet isn't veagan, or anything like veagan. But you are as skinny as your average veagan.

[eatrainrest]

ive been doing this basically my whole training career so far. i started back when i was about 16 and gained 25 lbs in the first 2.5 months but that was on a completely dif diet. high protein and high cals like your suppose to. i ate alot, had protein powder and worked hard. and i worked out on and off for about 4 years. but in the last couple years i havent been wieghtlifting just at home sometimes to stay in shape. but since that first initial gain i never really gained any weight or size, i gained strength but that was it

ok you definately need to pick a new routine and set range

[johnCash]

off topic

[johnCash]

ok you definately need to pick a new routine and set range

k well i started reading that slingshot training but its so long and not very straight forward. was i reading the right section about loading and deloading? i can def. just cut back sets if i need to. any suggestions?

[AandF6969]

Start concentrating on powerlifting-style exercises with heavy weight... squat, deadlift, and bench.

That diet pretty much sucks... we can't even tell how many calories you're eating unless you tell us amounts of each food in ounces, grams, or cups.

[eatrainrest]

ok you definately need to pick a new routine and set range

k well i started reading that slingshot training but its so long and not very straight forward. was i reading the right section about loading and deloading? i can def. just cut back sets if i need to. any suggestions?

post in my form in the workout section

[jamyjamjr]

damn i feel left behind.. lol..

i take a vacation for 2 damn days n i miss out on every thing

booo hoo hoo!!!