teach ol' wise ones

[daddyzzs]

I'm looking to start my cycle for the summer but unsure of what to do this time? I can post what my last two were but I really want to get from 175 to atleast 200 and hold that or 190 no less I have a good diet and can make it to the gym a solid 4 days maybe 5. Please give some input!

[WARMachine]

Stats?

age
height
weight
bf%
diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience
pct/estrogen control knowledge
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...)

[busaboy27]

warmachine beat me too it.......

what he said

[WARMachine]

lol

Beauty before braun...

[daddyzzs]

Stats?

age
height
weight
bf% as of
diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience
pct/estrogen control knowledge
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...)

age 28
height 6'
weight 175lbs
bf% always around 13%
about 7 meals a day maybe more
lifting for 10 yearsjust trying to stay healthy 2 days working out 1 day off
did two cycles one about 6 months ago it was junk and the other last summer seen great gains(my supplier got busted)
little knowledge but have been reading alot no signs of gyno yet
size/cut/strength/speed
190-200/mild-firm/must/basketball

hope this helps a little I'll try and post what I eat I have to find my book

I'm looking for the GSP look I had it and lost it!

[busaboy27]

get a real diet forget the juice for now.. u can and should obtain that naturally.. post up in the diet section.. imo

[T-MOS]

you don't need steroids at this point, you need your diet tweeked. IF you can't hold your bodyweight to 210-220 NATURALLY at a height of 6', then you won't hold it AFTER you are done cycling

No offense, but DIET is the key to making and keeping gains !!

[WARMachine]

^ Ditto.

[WARMachine]

Dp...

[daddyzzs]

alright I will post there I just like how I could finally break my 153 curse with it then I broke 180 with the second one I thought I could break the 200 mark and get the look I'm wanting now that I have a good gym to work out in...

[M302_Imola]

alright I will post there I just like how I could finally break my 153 curse with it then I broke 180 with the second one I thought I could break the 200 mark and get the look I'm wanting now that I have a good gym to work out in...

you could but the results would only be temporarily due to your diet.

[alpmaster]

6', 175, lifting for 10 years... You need to get over to the diet section bud.

[chuckt12345]

How can anyone say what someone can get there weight up to naturally by there height?

[wannabebig11]

I agree everyone is different. some gain easier than others. even with proper diet.

[chuckt12345]

yea one of my pet peeves on here,, its hard to tell someone what they can get to naturally. I dont really call eating 8 times a day at 4000 calories for a year that cost thousands of extra dollars can be called natural. I believe genetics is far superior in dectating your natural weight than diet and training. Id rather spend a few hundred bucks taking a cycle and gain 20lbs, lose half of it than spend 5k eating right all year and gain 10 but thats just me.

[daddyzzs]

yea one of my pet peeves on here,, its hard to tell someone what they can get to naturally. I dont really call eating 8 times a day at 4000 calories for a year that cost thousands of extra dollars can be called natural. I believe genetics is far superior in dectating your natural weight than diet and training. Id rather spend a few hundred bucks taking a cycle and gain 20lbs, lose half of it than spend 5k eating right all year and gain 10 but thats just me.

Thats how I feel nomatter what I did or who I worked out (with trainner wise) I never got any bigger just leaner and more cut, I want big muscles not just definition!

[busaboy27]

well i can see were your coming from i mean if u diet correctly and are still stuck well than i would go for it too.. but if u never had a good diet or gave it a try then maybe thats your answer.. but again what u think might have been a good diet really might have not .....just my 2 cents.. if not start sticking