What is it like?

[vingtor]

i am a natural bodybuilder, and am no way close to the age of taking anabolic steriods. i am just curious of them(and will no way take them), and how they people do on them. here are a few questions...

how long is it to see results?

can you end up looking like some of the IFBB pro guys? is that everyone or just some people?

how do you cycle them?

is there a difference between advanced and beginner anabolic steriods?

how do you set a post therapy cycle?

do you regret ever taking them?

what were some side affects you saw?

like i said, i cannot find really anywhere that breaks this down, i will NOT use this information to create my own cycle.

thanks.

[Pocketbattleship2B]

You are new here,welcome, but you are going to get told to do a LOT of reading.The stickies at the top of each section are a great place to start and answer most if not all of your questions.I have been here months and am still learning.Good luck

[gymnerd]

i am a natural bodybuilder, and am no way close to the age of taking anabolic steriods. i am just curious of them(and will no way take them), and how they people do on them. here are a few questions...

how long is it to see results?
Depends on the person and the compound used.
can you end up looking like some of the IFBB pro guys? is that everyone or just some people?
Only if you have the god given genetics and work your ass off for a decade or so.

how do you cycle them?
Read the stickies.
is there a difference between advanced and beginner anabolic steriods?
Read the stickies
how do you set a post therapy cycle?
Go to the PCT area and read the stickies.

do you regret ever taking them?
No.
what were some side affects you saw?
Bloating, mild acne maybe a couple small pimples.like i said, i cannot find really anywhere that breaks this down, i will NOT use this information to create my own cycle.

thanks.

I answered the best I could.

[Zookl]

All those questions can be answered if you start reading the forum's stickies...
If you have a more specific question I'm sure people will be able to help you out here.

[c-Z]

Welcome man. good group of people. Many questions can be found by simply reading as stated... Good group of folks here willing to answer questions you have.

[doctorclaus]

i am a natural bodybuilder, and am no way close to the age of taking anabolic steriods. i am just curious of them(and will no way take them), and how they people do on them. here are a few questions...

how long is it to see results?
reallyyy fast 5-7 weeks
can you end up looking like some of the IFBB pro guys? is that everyone or just some people?
if you are a freak of nature and love to put your body thru a great nutritional stress

how do you cycle them?
easy post something reasonable after doing research and the guys here will help you tweak it

is there a difference between advanced and beginner anabolic steriods?
yes.... read about test and then read about trenbolone

how do you set a post therapy cycle?
buying the notebook and becoming the biggest sweetheart in the world and using the word pretty alot

do you regret ever taking them?

science is a hell of a subject...NO

what were some side affects you saw?
little pimples here and there

like i said, i cannot find really anywhere that breaks this down, i will NOT use this information to create my own cycle.

thanks.

YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT COMING INTO THE DARKSIDE... TESTOSTERONE IS MADE BY YOUR BODY ITS NOT A DRUG.....

[BadNewsBerto]

YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT COMING INTO THE DARKSIDE... TESTOSTERONE IS MADE BY YOUR BODY ITS NOT A DRUG.....

dangerous statement imo

[BadNewsBerto]

"i am a natural bodybuilder, and am no way close to the age of taking anabolic steriods."

considering the first sentence in his post

[T-MOS]

Welcome to AR

just how old are you ?

tell us a little bit more

age
height
weight
bodyfat %
yrs training
Do you compete now?


I will be happy to answer all your questions in depth if you answer mine first

[vingtor]

ok i read some of the stickies, and my god there is a TON A TON A TON of information, that i would like broken down, so someone who really does not know so much as your selves on subject, could have you guys bring me into it bit my bit, so i can understand pages of pages of the differnce of PCT "gear"(thats what you call it right?)

19 yrs old!
i am 5'9!
i have bout 8% to 10% flucutates depending on what im doing.
since i was 13, so six yrs. really heavy in these past yrs, i suffered a broken back, so i got bout 5, 3 real good ones.
i do not compete with people on stage, but with freinds yes. compete as get big and cut and look good? yeah i do.

[T-MOS]

ok, well you are about 4-6 years from using steroids, so you have plenty of time to learn all you can here

ask your questions and we will help you as we can.

PCT = Post Cycle Therapy.... it is what you need to take AFTER your steroid cycle in order to help restore your body to homeostasis and producing its own Test again

[Phate]

TMos is very knowledgeable and will not steer you wrong, listen to him and learn

not to rep my own thread but i think you will like this for a resource

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355504

[T-MOS]

^^^ Great links !!! a must read !!

[vingtor]

so ive read people throw out all these anabolic steroid names out, and ive read them and how long do you usually cycle? when you shoot them, is it safe to mix them in one shot? or does it depend? when do you start your PCT? right after your done with your other cycle? what are some popular stuff? how much does it cost? and how do you know your getting a good dealer if your on the internet? or do you get it from friends?

sorry im just a novice at this, but im just really curious. bigger faster stronger did it to me, and also i just have really taken to looking at the IFBB pro guys.

also to get like them, do you really have to have AMAZING genetics, or does diet and doing a good a work out shcedule do it?

[T-MOS]

can't ask about prices or sources

if you read the links that PHATE gave you , you will learn a lot about what you are asking

yes you can mix compounds in the same shot, however YOUR first cycle WHICH WILL BE YEARS FROM NOW RIGHT??? will start with just ONE compound, a single LONG ester Testosterone

PCT timing is based on the longest ester in your compounds....so it starts at different times depending on what compound you are using

Chances are you will NOT get to be like an IFBB pro.... they have special doctors that administer and monitor then daily.....

FOOD is your best friend right now for growth
Genetics DO play a part in this as well. but at your age, your hormone level is at its PEAK, so with the right food intake you can make incredible gains

SO, get to the diet section here and start checking out Bulking diets

[Phate]

can't ask about prices or sources

if you read the links that PHATE gave you , you will learn a lot about what you are asking

yes you can mix compounds in the same shot, however YOUR first cycle WHICH WILL BE YEARS FROM NOW RIGHT??? will start with just ONE compound, a single LONG ester Testosterone

PCT timing is based on the longest ester in your compounds....so it starts at different times depending on what compound you are using

Chances are you will NOT get to be like an IFBB pro.... they have special doctors that administer and monitor then daily.....

FOOD is your best friend right now for growth
Genetics DO play a part in this as well. but at your age, your hormone level is at its PEAK, so with the right food intake you can make incredible gains

SO, get to the diet section here and start checking out Bulking diets

yep yep

[vingtor]

correct, i promise this information will only be used, if i decide to use them YEARS FROM NOW. i promise. i checked out some of those links, awesome by the way.

as for diets i am in training for nutrionist so im set there.

so i have a question now. obviously in America it is illegal for anabolic steriod usage. so these guys in the IFBB and what not, why dont they get in trouble?( this spawned from how they have doctors) and why dont the doctors get in trouble?

also, how much do people normally shoot? and so i take it, the more advanced you are, the more you take, and diff kinds?

[Phate]

correct, i promise this information will only be used, if i decide to use them YEARS FROM NOW. i promise. i checked out some of those links, awesome by the way.

as for diets i am in training for nutrionist so im set there.
very nice, i believe we will have some interesting conversation then, i would like to see your diet in detail and i'll post mine as well if you like, i think it would make for a very informative info swap, how bout posting it in this thread tomorrow with amounts of each food and macros for each meal and i'll do the same, as well as a daily caloric total and total macros?
so i have a question now. obviously in America it is illegal for anabolic steriod usage. so these guys in the IFBB and what not, why dont they get in trouble?( this spawned from how they have doctors) and why dont the doctors get in trouble?
this is a very complicated question but basically the doctors have a duty to the patient to protect their confidentiality unless they are doing themselves or other's harm(hippocrate's oath) and the DEA doesn't really care about the small fish(private users), they want the dealers
also, how much do people normally shoot? and so i take it, the more advanced you are, the more you take, and diff kinds?

here's another thread on the basic first cycle(again i'm repping my own threads, lol)

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

[vingtor]

also, for the BB's who started young, Flex lewis, Arnold, and so forth, what has been the drawback for them for starting so young?

or what will?

[Phate]

also, for the BB's who started young, Flex lewis, Arnold, and so forth, what has been the drawback for them for starting so young?
i believe lee priest started when he was 16
or what will?

here are some threads that will answer your second question

If You Are Under 24 Then Read This
Written by D00fy
contributed by WARmachine
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=15197

Things to Conside BEFORE AAS
Written by Marcus300
contributed by Marcus300
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=1#post4316957

[T-MOS]

correct, i promise this information will only be used, if i decide to use them YEARS FROM NOW. i promise. i checked out some of those links, awesome by the way.

as for diets i am in training for nutrionist so im set there.

so i have a question now. obviously in America it is illegal for anabolic steriod usage. so these guys in the IFBB and what not, why dont they get in trouble?( this spawned from how they have doctors) and why dont the doctors get in trouble?

also, how much do people normally shoot? and so i take it, the more advanced you are, the more you take, and diff kinds?

It is GREAT that you are studying for nutrition, but keep in mind that nutrition for the average person, and a bodybuilder with or without steroids is COMPLETELY different....
So, make part of your studies, the DIET SECTION here !! TRUST ME !!

[Phate]

It is GREAT that you are studying for nutrition, but keep in mind that nutrition for the average person, and a bodybuilder with or without steroids is COMPLETELY different....
So, make part of your studies, the DIET SECTION here !! TRUST ME !!

i can't wait to debate diet with him, should be fun/interesting/informative

i'm going to take a sports nutrition class spring semester, i bet i'm gonna get in alot of arguments in that class

[vingtor]

lets see. right now i stay on a high protien, mid to low carb diet, low fat. its a relativly low calorie diet, compared to when i was eating bout 5000 cals.

breakfast-

1/3 cup of oatmeal
ON pro complex protien shake
banana
fish oil caplet
Vita-Cell
mid morning snack-

ON pro complex
ON amino acid blend

Lunch-

one or 1 and 1/2 chicken breast mixed in a whole wheat pasta or salad
apple
sweet potatoe

Pre Workout-

bout hour to two hours out

chicken breast/lean meat

45 minutes out

2 dried plumes

Post Workout

Gaspari Intra pro(whey isolate)
chicken breast with white noodles

Dinner

lean meat
salad
some type of vegtables in a mixed packet.

hour or so before i go to bed, or depending on how full i am, i will take an ON casien shake.

so for every meal i try to take in 40 to sixty grams of protien, and as for carbs, its relativly low for now, but i will redo it soon.

i normally dont count macros, i just keep track of what i eat for the day. i try to eat roughly bout 3000-3500 calories a day for now.

[vingtor]

i forgot i will take flax seed oil.

i cant take glutamine because i have crohns disease.

[Phate]

i forgot i will take flax seed oil.

i cant take glutamine because i have crohns disease.

but you can take glutamic acid correct?

[vingtor]

you know, i really havnt tried. i guess i could try, but id have to do it carefully. last time a took glutamine, it wasnt too pretty. what is it exactly? the acid.

[vingtor]

oh that link page has been really insightful. thanks a lot phate, it really is somthing else.


i also wanted to thank the people on here, for being really nice, generous, and extremely helpful!

[Phate]

you know, i really havnt tried. i guess i could try, but id have to do it carefully. last time a took glutamine, it wasnt too pretty. what is it exactly? the acid.

well i should probably mention that the Pro Complex and Amino Acid blend you take both contain glutamine and glutamic acid

glutamid acid is the precursor to glutamine, the body converts glutamic acid to glutamine

[Phate]

oh that link page has been really insightful. thanks a lot phate, it really is somthing else.


i also wanted to thank the people on here, for being really nice, generous, and extremely helpful!

i'm glad you like it, it took me forever to compile all those threads and i'm still adding to it, but it helps alot of the regulars(people that are on here everyday answering questions) because before we would have to either create our own in a word document or search for threads like the clen thread that comes up 10x a day

[vingtor]

oh i know it has glutamine in it, and ill try glutmine acid. as for the shales and what not, it does give me an upset stomach and what not, but i have medicine that helps with it.

[Phate]

oh i know it has glutamine in it, and ill try glutmine acid. as for the shales and what not, it does give me an upset stomach and what not, but i have medicine that helps with it.

if it makes your stomach upset don't take the glutamic acid, though you could stick with the BCAAs without trouble

[vingtor]

ill see if i can find some in liquid form! im sure i can, whats your daily diet look like phate? and i bet compiling that page took forever, but without it a lot of people would be lost. if you find a page that talks about all the scientifical words, and gives defintitions and real life instances, let me know. ill check that one page.

[Phate]

ill see if i can find some in liquid form! im sure i can, whats your daily diet look like phate? and i bet compiling that page took forever, but without it a lot of people would be lost. if you find a page that talks about all the scientifical words, and gives defintitions and real life instances, let me know. ill check that one page.

scientific words? name some so i can understand better what you're talking about as far as category and such, or you can just pm me some questions and i'll answer them when you get 25 post

my diet is about to change completely but i'll type out a rough draft of what i ate today for you

[DEE151]

i am a natural bodybuilder, and am no way close to the age of taking anabolic steriods. i am just curious of them(and will no way take them), and how they people do on them. here are a few questions...

how long is it to see results?

can you end up looking like some of the IFBB pro guys? is that everyone or just some people?

how do you cycle them?

is there a difference between advanced and beginner anabolic steriods?

how do you set a post therapy cycle?

do you regret ever taking them?

what were some side affects you saw?

like i said, i cannot find really anywhere that breaks this down, i will NOT use this information to create my own cycle.

thanks.

if your thinking about doing steroids then come on over to the dark side wich it the best side. i love them they make me fill good and look great plus i like how my body look they are safe if you know what your doing. alot of ppl talk down on steroids but have never done them be for or know any 1 that has done them its just a bunch of bs.

[Phate]

if your thinking about doing steroids then come on over to the dark side wich it the best side. i love them they make me fill good and look great plus i like how my body look they are safe if you know what your doing. alot of ppl talk down on steroids but have never done them be for or know any 1 that has done them its just a bunch of bs.

he's 19 and isn't ready yet

it really impresses me when people my age(i just turned 20) have the common sense to not use something like steroids until they are ready, it's very tempting for us, but i believe it will be worth it in the end

[vingtor]

i bet they do make you feel great, and i know you look good them, that V shape from your waist to your shouldars, that X you get from calves to shouldars! thing is, i can get that, from a good diet, and hard work. now it might not be like yours, but mine is significantly less, and i recognize that. at this point, i still have potential i want to use up before i go and further better my self.

[hankdiesel]

if your thinking about doing steroids then come on over to the dark side wich it the best side. i love them they make me fill good and look great plus i like how my body look they are safe if you know what your doing. alot of ppl talk down on steroids but have never done them be for or know any 1 that has done them its just a bunch of bs.

Take it easy. He is still a kid bro.

[DEE151]

he's 19 and isn't ready yet

it really impresses me when people my age(i just turned 20) have the common sense to not use something like steroids until they are ready, it's very tempting for us, but i believe it will be worth it in the end

hell in the heck do you become a ar vet at a young age?

[Phate]

hell in the heck do you become a ar vet at a young age?

why does the age matter at all? does the information i bring to this site lose it's credit because i'm 20 and not 40?

[DEE151]

why does the age matter at all? does the information i bring to this site lose it's credit because i'm 20 and not 40?

its not that i was just curious how did you become ar vet at a youg age?
dont get me rong you know Way more stuff then i do, and you give great advice on this board