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    Sust Doses

    What are the best doses for a Sust solo cycle for 12 weeks, this would be a second cycle and a continuation of bulking. Also like Test E is it best ran for 12 weeks and how should shots be spread out pretty much a basic run down on how much, how long, how often.

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    typical dose is anywhere from 300-600mg per week. the injection protocol would be every other day, but twice weekly is acceptable as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN View Post
    typical dose is anywhere from 300-600mg per week. the injection protocol would be every other day, but twice weekly is acceptable as well.
    So I could run it like Test E, 500mg every Monday and Thursday? And dose a cycle last 12 weeks as well

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    Frontload 750mg, then 500mg E5D, last one or two shots 250mg.
    According to europian schemes, which are much more different from yours...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EpsteinBarr View Post
    Frontload 750mg, then 500mg E5D, last one or two shots 250mg.
    According to europian schemes, which are much more different from yours...
    thats ridiculous

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    Quote Originally Posted by forza nuova View Post
    thats ridiculous
    I've just mentioned how it is on "every day manner" of steroid users in lot of europian countries, nothing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EpsteinBarr View Post
    Frontload 750mg, then 500mg E5D, last one or two shots 250mg.
    According to europian schemes, which are much more different from yours...
    Eh i dont know about that front load thing it seems like over doing it a bit, i mean i'm patient enough to wait 4 weeks for it to kick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liftw8t View Post
    So I could run it like Test E, 500mg every Monday and Thursday? And dose a cycle last 12 weeks as well
    This sounds like you plan on doing 1g per week. This is too much for a second cycle. Maybe you meant 500 total but that is not the way it's written. Most will tell you to shoot sust eod but in my experience 2x per week is fine. If you don't mind doing the injections eod would be best.

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    Jigga hit it on the head.

    IMO, you can make good gains off 500mg/wk. Personally I shoot on Sunday morning and Wednesday night. You could do:

    Mon morning - 1cc/ml
    Thur night - 1cc/ml
    = 500mg/wk

    Wait 3 weeks to start your PCT after your last injection.

    Sust is best shot eod because of the prop in it, but you will have good gains off twice a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaron1mix View Post
    Jigga hit it on the head.

    IMO, you can make good gains off 500mg/wk. Personally I shoot on Sunday morning and Wednesday night. You could do:

    Mon morning - 1cc/ml
    Thur night - 1cc/ml
    = 500mg/wk

    Wait 3 weeks to start your PCT after your last injection.

    Sust is best shot eod because of the prop in it, but you will have good gains off twice a week.
    having a hard time reading with your avatar.... HAHA. LMAO.

    Personally ide run sust eod due to the short esters.... if your going to want to shoot e3.5 then just run test e or c.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hankdiesel View Post
    This sounds like you plan on doing 1g per week. This is too much for a second cycle. Maybe you meant 500 total but that is not the way it's written. Most will tell you to shoot sust eod but in my experience 2x per week is fine. If you don't mind doing the injections eod would be best.
    Yeah I did mean to put 500mg a week split in 2 doses, and i mean thats the thing I'm on test e taking it every 3.5days ish and I was wondering if Sust was that much better of a compound, I could run it EOD but that would get confusing after a while and if its felt I can gain off 2x's a week then hell I'll do it but is Sust better than Test e then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by liftw8t View Post
    Yeah I did mean to put 500mg a week split in 2 doses, and i mean thats the thing I'm on test e taking it every 3.5days ish and I was wondering if Sust was that much better of a compound, I could run it EOD but that would get confusing after a while and if its felt I can gain off 2x's a week then hell I'll do it but is Sust better than Test e then?
    test is test, man. One isn't better than the other.

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    JIGGA hit it on the head.

    Me personally I Only inject the sust 2 times a week

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    So once again is it okay to run it like Test E?

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    Quote Originally Posted by liftw8t View Post
    What are the best doses for a Sust solo cycle for 12 weeks, this would be a second cycle and a continuation of bulking. Also like Test E is it best ran for 12 weeks and how should shots be spread out pretty much a basic run down on how much, how long, how often.
    500mg wk....split 2 x per week. Some do use SUST EOD though but for more experienced IMO.

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    Agreed on leaving an amp out open... not the smartest idea IMO and i agree with everyone else on that.. if you have to pre load another syringe as stated.

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    One more sust question should it be ran at 8 weeks or 12?

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    A lot of people say Sustanon should be 10-12 weeks.

    Where should I store the syringe that I load up? Is it OK to stand it up in an empty cup and just leave it on my bedroom table?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almond View Post
    A lot of people say Sustanon should be 10-12 weeks.

    Where should I store the syringe that I load up? Is it OK to stand it up in an empty cup and just leave it on my bedroom table?
    i would put it in a ziplock bag immidiately......to keep air away from it...

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    2-3 times per weeks, 500mg per week, 12ish weeks

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    Now running Sust or Test e for my second cycle which would be a good addition, Deca or EQ for bulking.
    1) Not really trying to mess with orals and I have mixed feelings about Deca primarily sides (gyno, deca-dick) and with EQ (is it to powerful for second cycle) (they say it works slow as far as seeing muscle results from it).

    2) Up side to deca is I know it will work well for bulking and will provide that joint lubrication and for eq safer as far as sides and increase in appetite.

    3) Also would either deca or eq work better with a long ester like test e or something with short ester in it like sust.

    4) Should I fear low doses of orals and which is heavier on sides Anadrol or Dianabol.

    5) What would good doses be on either Deca or Eq for second cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liftw8t View Post
    Now running Sust or Test e for my second cycle which would be a good addition, Deca or EQ for bulking.
    1) Not really trying to mess with orals and I have mixed feelings about Deca primarily sides (gyno, deca-dick) and with EQ (is it to powerful for second cycle) (they say it works slow as far as seeing muscle results from it).

    2) Up side to deca is I know it will work well for bulking and will provide that joint lubrication and for eq safer as far as sides and increase in appetite.

    3) Also would either deca or eq work better with a long ester like test e or something with short ester in it like sust.

    4) Should I fear low doses of orals and which is heavier on sides Anadrol or Dianabol.

    5) What would good doses be on either Deca or Eq for second cycle.
    you'd have to try orals and see how you go, most dont have probs, as for eq and deca, i personally have used deca with sust and dbol b4 and was impressed and going on the same very soon, 98% will tell you deca but that other 2% will swear by eq. trying each in separate cycles is only way to knw

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    Quote Originally Posted by liftw8t View Post
    Now running Sust or Test e for my second cycle which would be a good addition, Deca or EQ for bulking.
    1) Not really trying to mess with orals and I have mixed feelings about Deca primarily sides (gyno, deca-dick) and with EQ (is it to powerful for second cycle) (they say it works slow as far as seeing muscle results from it).

    2) Up side to deca is I know it will work well for bulking and will provide that joint lubrication and for eq safer as far as sides and increase in appetite.

    3) Also would either deca or eq work better with a long ester like test e or something with short ester in it like sust.

    4) Should I fear low doses of orals and which is heavier on sides Anadrol or Dianabol.

    5) What would good doses be on either Deca or Eq for second cycle.

    Depends what you are looking for really. If you want to be bloated, pack on the pounds and strength, and see quick results, I would go with Deca. Keep in mind, though, Deca is mostly water bloat and you will lose a lot of it after the cycle, and you will also be shut down very hard from it, so you need a hardcore PCT, which will also inevitably lead to losing even more gains.

    If you want slow, but steady gains in quality lean mass, then go with EQ. You will have hardly, if any, water bloat. You will also keep most of the gains seeing as how it is all lean mass gained by it, and it is very mild so you do not need a hardcore PCT, and it is much easier to recover from.

    Dosage wise, I would say 400mg Deca per week if you want to go with that, or, 600mg - 800mg per week of EQ. Also, yes, Deca and EQ are great compounds to stack with long estered testosterone seeing as how they both have long esters as well. There is no reason to fear low doses of orals. The best part about it, is the half-life of most orals last only a few hours, so if you get sides from them, you can just stop taking them and the sides will subside within a matter of hours. Since the injectable compounds you want to stack have very long esters, and you want quick results up until the injectables kick in, you can run D-bol at 30mg ED for 4 - 5 weeks. Kickstarting your cycle like this, along with the compounds you are choosing to run, will give you very good results in a bulking cycle if proper diet and workout routine are included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by workoutfreak078 View Post
    Depends what you are looking for really. If you want to be bloated, pack on the pounds and strength, and see quick results, I would go with Deca. Keep in mind, though, Deca is mostly water bloat and you will lose a lot of it after the cycle, and you will also be shut down very hard from it, so you need a hardcore PCT, which will also inevitably lead to losing even more gains.

    If you want slow, but steady gains in quality lean mass, then go with EQ. You will have hardly, if any, water bloat. You will also keep most of the gains seeing as how it is all lean mass gained by it, and it is very mild so you do not need a hardcore PCT, and it is much easier to recover from.

    Dosage wise, I would say 400mg Deca per week if you want to go with that, or, 600mg - 800mg per week of EQ. Also, yes, Deca and EQ are great compounds to stack with long estered testosterone seeing as how they both have long esters as well. There is no reason to fear low doses of orals. The best part about it, is the half-life of most orals last only a few hours, so if you get sides from them, you can just stop taking them and the sides will subside within a matter of hours. Since the injectable compounds you want to stack have very long esters, and you want quick results up until the injectables kick in, you can run D-bol at 30mg ED for 4 - 5 weeks. Kickstarting your cycle like this, along with the compounds you are choosing to run, will give you very good results in a bulking cycle if proper diet and workout routine are included.
    not trying to hijack, but i read many times that Deca gives good keep gains? Why now am I hearing its mostly water?

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    Quote Originally Posted by workoutfreak078 View Post
    Depends what you are looking for really. If you want to be bloated, pack on the pounds and strength, and see quick results, I would go with Deca. Keep in mind, though, Deca is mostly water bloat and you will lose a lot of it after the cycle, and you will also be shut down very hard from it, so you need a hardcore PCT, which will also inevitably lead to losing even more gains.

    If you want slow, but steady gains in quality lean mass, then go with EQ. You will have hardly, if any, water bloat. You will also keep most of the gains seeing as how it is all lean mass gained by it, and it is very mild so you do not need a hardcore PCT, and it is much easier to recover from.

    Dosage wise, I would say 400mg Deca per week if you want to go with that, or, 600mg - 800mg per week of EQ. Also, yes, Deca and EQ are great compounds to stack with long estered testosterone seeing as how they both have long esters as well. There is no reason to fear low doses of orals. The best part about it, is the half-life of most orals last only a few hours, so if you get sides from them, you can just stop taking them and the sides will subside within a matter of hours. Since the injectable compounds you want to stack have very long esters, and you want quick results up until the injectables kick in, you can run D-bol at 30mg ED for 4 - 5 weeks. Kickstarting your cycle like this, along with the compounds you are choosing to run, will give you very good results in a bulking cycle if proper diet and workout routine are included.
    Right Right i'm thinking about trying low dose of anadrol next cycle and probably go with EQ just for the simple fact I cant have that DBol effect with deca where you get big then you lose alot it will mess with me psycologically and i'll be a mess...i'm to obsessed with my body lol. Now you dont think 400mg of Eq is a effective dose and can Eq be raan for 12 weeks with test or has to be shorter

    Quote Originally Posted by BOBBY D View Post
    not trying to hijack, but i read many times that Deca gives good keep gains? Why now am I hearing its mostly water?
    dude we are all here to learn, hijack away

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