Sust Doses

[liftw8t]

Now running Sust or Test e for my second cycle which would be a good addition, Deca or EQ for bulking.
1) Not really trying to mess with orals and I have mixed feelings about Deca primarily sides (gyno, deca-dick) and with EQ (is it to powerful for second cycle) (they say it works slow as far as seeing muscle results from it).

2) Up side to deca is I know it will work well for bulking and will provide that joint lubrication and for eq safer as far as sides and increase in appetite.

3) Also would either deca or eq work better with a long ester like test e or something with short ester in it like sust.

4) Should I fear low doses of orals and which is heavier on sides Anadrol or Dianabol.

5) What would good doses be on either Deca or Eq for second cycle.

[dec11]

Now running Sust or Test e for my second cycle which would be a good addition, Deca or EQ for bulking.
1) Not really trying to mess with orals and I have mixed feelings about Deca primarily sides (gyno, deca-dick) and with EQ (is it to powerful for second cycle) (they say it works slow as far as seeing muscle results from it).

2) Up side to deca is I know it will work well for bulking and will provide that joint lubrication and for eq safer as far as sides and increase in appetite.

3) Also would either deca or eq work better with a long ester like test e or something with short ester in it like sust.

4) Should I fear low doses of orals and which is heavier on sides Anadrol or Dianabol.

5) What would good doses be on either Deca or Eq for second cycle.

you'd have to try orals and see how you go, most dont have probs, as for eq and deca, i personally have used deca with sust and dbol b4 and was impressed and going on the same very soon, 98% will tell you deca but that other 2% will swear by eq. trying each in separate cycles is only way to knw

[workoutfreak078]

Now running Sust or Test e for my second cycle which would be a good addition, Deca or EQ for bulking.
1) Not really trying to mess with orals and I have mixed feelings about Deca primarily sides (gyno, deca-dick) and with EQ (is it to powerful for second cycle) (they say it works slow as far as seeing muscle results from it).

2) Up side to deca is I know it will work well for bulking and will provide that joint lubrication and for eq safer as far as sides and increase in appetite.

3) Also would either deca or eq work better with a long ester like test e or something with short ester in it like sust.

4) Should I fear low doses of orals and which is heavier on sides Anadrol or Dianabol.

5) What would good doses be on either Deca or Eq for second cycle.

Depends what you are looking for really. If you want to be bloated, pack on the pounds and strength, and see quick results, I would go with Deca. Keep in mind, though, Deca is mostly water bloat and you will lose a lot of it after the cycle, and you will also be shut down very hard from it, so you need a hardcore PCT, which will also inevitably lead to losing even more gains.

If you want slow, but steady gains in quality lean mass, then go with EQ. You will have hardly, if any, water bloat. You will also keep most of the gains seeing as how it is all lean mass gained by it, and it is very mild so you do not need a hardcore PCT, and it is much easier to recover from.

Dosage wise, I would say 400mg Deca per week if you want to go with that, or, 600mg - 800mg per week of EQ. Also, yes, Deca and EQ are great compounds to stack with long estered testosterone seeing as how they both have long esters as well. There is no reason to fear low doses of orals. The best part about it, is the half-life of most orals last only a few hours, so if you get sides from them, you can just stop taking them and the sides will subside within a matter of hours. Since the injectable compounds you want to stack have very long esters, and you want quick results up until the injectables kick in, you can run D-bol at 30mg ED for 4 - 5 weeks. Kickstarting your cycle like this, along with the compounds you are choosing to run, will give you very good results in a bulking cycle if proper diet and workout routine are included.

[BOBBY D]

Depends what you are looking for really. If you want to be bloated, pack on the pounds and strength, and see quick results, I would go with Deca. Keep in mind, though, Deca is mostly water bloat and you will lose a lot of it after the cycle, and you will also be shut down very hard from it, so you need a hardcore PCT, which will also inevitably lead to losing even more gains.

If you want slow, but steady gains in quality lean mass, then go with EQ. You will have hardly, if any, water bloat. You will also keep most of the gains seeing as how it is all lean mass gained by it, and it is very mild so you do not need a hardcore PCT, and it is much easier to recover from.

Dosage wise, I would say 400mg Deca per week if you want to go with that, or, 600mg - 800mg per week of EQ. Also, yes, Deca and EQ are great compounds to stack with long estered testosterone seeing as how they both have long esters as well. There is no reason to fear low doses of orals. The best part about it, is the half-life of most orals last only a few hours, so if you get sides from them, you can just stop taking them and the sides will subside within a matter of hours. Since the injectable compounds you want to stack have very long esters, and you want quick results up until the injectables kick in, you can run D-bol at 30mg ED for 4 - 5 weeks. Kickstarting your cycle like this, along with the compounds you are choosing to run, will give you very good results in a bulking cycle if proper diet and workout routine are included.

not trying to hijack, but i read many times that Deca gives good keep gains? Why now am I hearing its mostly water?

[liftw8t]

Depends what you are looking for really. If you want to be bloated, pack on the pounds and strength, and see quick results, I would go with Deca. Keep in mind, though, Deca is mostly water bloat and you will lose a lot of it after the cycle, and you will also be shut down very hard from it, so you need a hardcore PCT, which will also inevitably lead to losing even more gains.

If you want slow, but steady gains in quality lean mass, then go with EQ. You will have hardly, if any, water bloat. You will also keep most of the gains seeing as how it is all lean mass gained by it, and it is very mild so you do not need a hardcore PCT, and it is much easier to recover from.

Dosage wise, I would say 400mg Deca per week if you want to go with that, or, 600mg - 800mg per week of EQ. Also, yes, Deca and EQ are great compounds to stack with long estered testosterone seeing as how they both have long esters as well. There is no reason to fear low doses of orals. The best part about it, is the half-life of most orals last only a few hours, so if you get sides from them, you can just stop taking them and the sides will subside within a matter of hours. Since the injectable compounds you want to stack have very long esters, and you want quick results up until the injectables kick in, you can run D-bol at 30mg ED for 4 - 5 weeks. Kickstarting your cycle like this, along with the compounds you are choosing to run, will give you very good results in a bulking cycle if proper diet and workout routine are included.

Right Right i'm thinking about trying low dose of anadrol next cycle and probably go with EQ just for the simple fact I cant have that DBol effect with deca where you get big then you lose alot it will mess with me psycologically and i'll be a mess...i'm to obsessed with my body lol. Now you dont think 400mg of Eq is a effective dose and can Eq be raan for 12 weeks with test or has to be shorter

not trying to hijack, but i read many times that Deca gives good keep gains? Why now am I hearing its mostly water?

dude we are all here to learn, hijack away

[workoutfreak078]

Right Right i'm thinking about trying low dose of anadrol next cycle and probably go with EQ just for the simple fact I cant have that DBol effect with deca where you get big then you lose alot it will mess with me psycologically and i'll be a mess...i'm to obsessed with my body lol. Now you dont think 400mg of Eq is a effective dose and can Eq be raan for 12 weeks with test or has to be shorter

I know people that have ran EQ at 400mg. It is an effective dose, but I highly recommend you do 600mg. You will see great gains at that dose. EQ has a very long acting ester, so I would run it for atleast 12 weeks. Run it for about 14 - 16 weeks. I always do 16.

[liftw8t]

I know people that have ran EQ at 400mg. It is an effective dose, but I highly recommend you do 600mg. You will see great gains at that dose. EQ has a very long acting ester, so I would run it for atleast 12 weeks. Run it for about 14 - 16 weeks. I always do 16.

So hows this look for bulking
Test E 500mg x 12 weeks
EQ 500mg x 12 weeks
Anadrol 100mg x 4 weeks (kickstart)

Oh and first cycle is Test E 400mg x 12 weeks, just if you needed to know