Junior Member
I've been training naturally for 2.5 years and have always had a lagging chest.
My arms and everything are much more developped than my chest.
I was wondering if it was possible to run a cycle where you only concentrate on the growth of your chest.
Is this possible? or is it inevitable that everything will grow as well?
'everything louder than everything else'
nope, thats silly. i had a prob with chest also, way back. my tris and shoulders were doin most of the work. what do you do for chest?
physical pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside... The pain of quiting will lasts forever!!
well, before you hit a cycle what do you do for your chest work out?
Junior Member
I'm not really adamant on starting a cycle but just want some info.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=121598011
theres a link to my workout journal
i started to train chest twice a week and it hasnt really made a drastic difference
Also im not saying my chest isnt developped at all, it is. and it does grow, but not a rate which id like.
I'm really in this more for the aesthetics side of it than actually putting on mass
I want a fitness model like physique where the chest is much bigger than the rest of the body
'everything louder than everything else'
way too much and def dont train it more than once a week!Originally Posted by arshigtx
flat b'bell press 5 sets, 8reps
incline d'bell press, 5sets, 8reps
incline d'bell flyes, 3 sets, 10 reps
work up to a weight that you can only just finish the last set on the pressing exercises and keep flyes light to medium, stretch well down at the bottom. it can be hard for some to get pecs engaging, just follow nice controlled slow reps anything rep'd too quick brings in the tris and delts too much
Junior Member
thanks for the tips
but can someone answer my orignal question?
Associate Member
I'd give it a shot if I had your goals. Might work, might not. I'd say it's defenitely worth a shot.
Junior Member
I dont want to take a chance though. I dont want to come out of the cycle with everything bigger but the same proportion.
Is there a way of doing this though? Like completely changing the proportions of my muscles?
Associate Member
Ah
Yeah it's probably inevitable that at least your shoulders and tris are gonna grow a little. Personally ....I think you might be able to pull it off to an extent.
Maybe no direct training for shoulders and tris (just what they get on chest day) and you could hit chest twice a week and include lots of isolation movements and lightly train every other bodypart once a week with high reps.
Total speculation bro....just my .02
Junior Member
hmmm
makes sense
thansk bro
'everything louder than everything else'
that is complete crap, he will NOT progress doing this. jez some shit gets spouted on this forum, if you dont know, dont advise
'everything louder than everything else'
its sod all to do with cycling, you need to change your work regardless of anything else
Junior Member
Ive changed my workout a lot of times
heavy volume, low volume, lots of sets, low reps, high reps, etc, etc...
I'm not doing anything wrong training wise, (im pretty sure)
its just that my chest is genetically not as developped as the rest of my body. i probably did something wrong when is started working out (working out arms much more intensely than chest)...
what do you think i should do now though?
The thing is its not like im not gaining mass in my chest, it just develops at a much slower rate than the rest of my body
What i want to do is drastically add mass to my chest, without adding very much if any mass to the rest of my body
haha sounds kind of ridiculous
Senior Member
Your doing 24 sets for chest... Very much so overtraining. Drop each excercise to 3 or 4 sets and keep it at only 4 excercise giving you 16 max sets for chest. Hit the rep range of 6-8 and use a weight that forces you to stay in that range (in other words that you cant lift more than 8 reps of). Do this and you will see that sometime less = more.
As for just growing your chest on a cycle I highly doubt it would workout the way you want it to but if you did try I would go with what Wormwood said.
'everything louder than everything else'
hmmm, ive just told you? you think theres nothing wrong with your training? your obviously very inexperienced. what age are you? infact just put up all your stats
Junior Member
These are my current stats:
5'11"
205 lbs
15-18% bf
In the pic I was:
5'11"
190 lbs
10-12% bf
My max's:
Bench: 225 x 2
Deadlift: 405 x 1
Squat: 280 lb x 1 (I didnt train legs, just started)
And im 20 years old
'everything louder than everything else'
too young for gear mate. follow that chest routine for a while, you could leave out tricep isolation exercise for a while also (the chest work will keep em in shape), this will help bring your chest up2 speed, rem slow controlled reps, squeeze and 'feel' it in the pecs
'everything louder than everything else'
these nancy's have airbrushed pics
Member
it takes a long time to build a quality physique for most people. at 20, time is on your side.
Member
declan seems to be giving you the right advice the only thing I would like to add is alot of times its your form when working chest a good example of why your arms build quicker would be your grip(arm spacing) needs to be wide or you will tend to hit the tri's more than isolate your chest and make sure your movement are slow take advantage of the negetive part of the lift as well
Peace
'everything louder than everything else'
yep, also an important point
Associate Member
declan has a good point bro...ur way to young to jump on some gear and it sounds like you really don't want to anyways. I am rv and just considering doing after about 14 yeas of working out. Form is crucial just like bjohnson said...try taking everything everyone has said and incorporate it into ur routine. Good luck....oh and by theway if that's ur picture I don't think you got much more to go to reach ur goal. Keep up the good work.
Member
im sorry but i dont understand why you would cycle but not take FULL advantage of it i would never cycle just for one muscle group. silly
Associate Member
Drop it to one chest workout a week. You're not giving it enough recovery. Twice a week will lead to overtraining, thus not growing.
How many days of rest are you taking per week? I cannot stress the importance of rest days. You grow when you're not in the gym..people always seem to forget this.
Make sure you're adding weight to every chest workout you're doing. From the looks of it, your routine is too busy.
My advice would be 1-2 warmup sets, relatively heavy, then one set all out with rest pause/negatives to induce some extra trauma to the fibers. None of this 24-set crap you have going on. It's completely useless and only detrimental to your gains.
Good luck.
New Member
Concentration, concentration. Squeeze them pecs. You should be able to feel it. Make sure your grip is right to be hitting your pecs, the closer your grip the more your Tri's are going to take over.
Member
i was wondering when someone would ask about this... You say you are 5'11" so you are my height, and what totally changed the size of my chest was my width of my grip on the bench. I've tried 2 a days on muscles, twice a week on muscles and once with not even that many sets and in my exp, i got best results gripping wider than my shoulders when the bar is against my chest. I keep elbows in and when you push up, push as if you are trying to stretch the bar apart. I use a wide, wide grip to make sure that tri's don't get more than chest. Also, flies helped me drastically with concentration on pecs... I bet that the problem lies with your form.
I'm not saying your form is wrong, but i do know that i can personally lift with two forms without doing it improperly, thats all i'm saying.
Where do you grip? Try putting pinkies, or even ring fingers on the grip line at the outside of the bar and keep elbows in close as you can to your body.
Hope this helps,
"dirty d"
'everything louder than everything else'
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Last edited by dec11; 03-09-2010 at 01:53 PM.
Junior Member
Hey guys thanks for all the advice.
Trust me what I'm doing now does make my chest grow, however not at the rate which I would like.
I'm sure I could tweak my workout, form, diet etc... but I still wont see DRASTIC increase in my chest.
I dont think you guys quite understand that i dont just want a bigger chest...
I want a massive fcking plate of armour that trumps everything else.
I want to change my whole upper body proportion.
this is the type of chest and physique i want
Associate Member
u want those shorts too dont ya?
Associate Member
nah seriously bro, you are saying that everything you are doing is good and proprer and all these boys are giving you tips and telling you the right way to make your chest grow and youre saying it wont work.....
try it. you came to the board for advise didnt you? we all did,now take it and use it
Junior Member
With all due disrespect I dont mean to discredit anything thats been said in this thread, because I do appreciate it a lot.
The thing is I have done/am doing most of things suggested, and will try new things.
But the thing is none of this stuff will give me a massive chest.
It will make my chest bigger, but a long the way everything else will grow as well, my back, my arms, my legs etc..
I want a bigger chest, with the size I already have.
I dont want you guys to think that this thread is the be all and end all of whether Im going take gear.
There is still A LOOOT more i need to learn and I no where near consider myself prepared to start a cycle.
So please, can someone just answer the original question?
Is it possible to do a cycle and just increase the size of one muscle group.
Thanks
Associate Member
no.everything will grow.nuff said.
Junior Member
What about what the other guy suggested?
Doing a cycle but only training chest.
Again let me reiterate that this thread will not decide whether or not I go on a cycle. In fact its very likely that no matter what I learn from this I probably wont anyways.
I'm just looking for information.
Senior Member
Synthol gave that guy his chest
look for a synthol thread here,
they should really get u excited
I think it was called holy Sh!T synthol
Doing a cycle and only training chest is stupid
I read your chest work out
It blows, I can see your chest in your pics. It has lots of natural potential.
Fix youtr work out and stop whining
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This thread just went downhill real fast.
I want a massive fcking plate of armour that trumps everything else.
I want to change my whole upper body proportion.
this is the type of chest and physique i want
Senior Member
he only posted the first picThis thread just went downhill real fast.
im sure in his folder the next pic the guy has his shorts off
'everything louder than everything else'
are you thick? you've just been given a truck load of tips and your response is, 'it wont work'. how do you think pecs are built then you idiot? and havent you heard of implants for men? cos im pretty sure thats what your idol in the pic has
Junior Member
So you're going to tell me that achieving a chest like that is impossible natty or not?
I shouldve put a (no homo) taghe only posted the first pic
im sure in his folder the next pic the guy has his shorts off
sigh...are you thick? you've just been given a truck load of tips and your response is, 'it wont work'. how do you think pecs are built then you idiot? and havent you heard of implants for men? cos im pretty sure thats what your idol in the pic has
Why cant I just have my question answered?
I clearly said that its 90% likely that I wont start on juice.
Its a simple fcking question.
I already said that I appreciate the info and will put it to use.
'everything louder than everything else'
ah jez, i give up on this, its like conveying to a brick wall
Junior Member
stay away from light, high rep with chest then. Look into DC training, you pretty much prime that muscle part for 1-2 sets and then rep your max till failure, then after a rest-pause, rep it one last time till failure.
I would try breaking up lower, middle, and upper peck for different days, say monday, wednesday, friday respecitvley, and train the component corresponding to that day DC style. And the next week you target these components, you must either add weight, or beat your previous rep.
You wont be over training, and youll have more endurance than say training all 3 in one day.
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