first cycle test e dbols and winni

[shooterdude]

week 1-12 test e 500mg/week
week 1-4 dbols 30-50 mg
week 8-12 winni 50 mg

any advice? how much nolvaldex should i take and when?

[shooterdude]

oh im 30 years old about 5 10 185 lbs that matters oh and is is better to split it up say 250 mg a week or just go 500 mg every monday

[shooterdude]

anyone?

[MR-FQ320]

wHAT are you using the nolva for ? gyno or pct ?

[vtach12]

What is ur bf %? Drop the orals for your first cycle. What are your goals with this cycle? What does your diet and training look like on this cycle?

[Nooomoto]

Thats too many compounds for a first cycle, dude. Slow down and stick with test for your first go round.

[Dr Pepper]

Just stick to test only 250mg twice a week for 12 weeks for your first cycle. Drop everything else. What's your pct look like?

Bf%?
diet?

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

^x2, with 3 compounds if you start to get sides what's your recourse going to be? Depending on which 1 is the cause your action to counter will be different. So start with Test n go from there.

[shooterdude]

i was thinking just for pct

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

Thinking what for pct?

[shooterdude]

well its my first cycle with test anyways not sure what my bf % is but im in good shape at 5 10 185 just lookin to put on some lean muscle, did dbols and winni before and need to step it up. I hammer the weights 5 days a week and go for hard bike rides through the week and play baseball in the summer. Lots of protein in my diet and creatine, fish oils and vitamines. Should i keep taking creatine during cycle?

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

Oh boy! Sounds like you got it figured out...

[shooterdude]

lol are you being sarcastic fuzzy

[shooterdude]

if i was to just stick with the 500 test per week could i just use nolva for gyno and pct

[lc1213]

keep the nolva for pct. look into getting an ai to run during your cycle if you have gyno related sides.

[shooterdude]

thx lc

[shooterdude]

anyone have any comments on creatine, have taken lots kre alkalynes and creatines and dont know if its really worth it, if it really does much at all really

[Nuzzi]

i think the general opinion is not to do more than one strong oral per cycle, its hard on your liver. i personaly dont like creatine, its a waste for what it gives you, and will probably just make you extra bloated during cycle. my first cycle i did test e 250mg/wk and had very good results, but most will say to go straight to 500mg/wk. split it up 250mgx2/wk, i do monday and thursday. if your set on just leaning out a bit and bulking def dont do dbol. either way just do test first time. and for an ai aromasin is great to have handy when needed.

[shooterdude]

thx nuzzi should i aromasin be taken during the cycle or just if needed

[shooterdude]

oh by the ways my goals are to burn 5 to 10 pounds of fat and put on 10 to 15 lbs of hard muscle im 185 right now so lookin to be 195-200

[inked1314]

Stick with the test e......don't add any other compound for the first 12 weeks. That would complete your cycle. See what results you got from just running Test. You shouldn't experience any sides. That would require Nolva in my opinion. It's when you start adding compounds during the first cycle that you develope sides. Don't rush the success of AS. You'll see how well the test works after the first four weeks. Let you body tell you what it needs. If you have a good base (muscle tone) to start with. Then the results will show themselves much faster. SLOW DOWN.....let the one compound work. You'll love the results....

[lc1213]

you can take the ai during your cycle to be on the safe side. some people will have gyno related sides and should run an ai from the beginning.

[nobloat]

Drop the creatine. Just going to add bloat and upset your gut

[Ashop]

week 1-12 test e 500mg/week
week 1-4 dbols 30-50 mg
week 8-12 winni 50 mg

any advice? how much nolvaldex should i take and when?

All you need for a nice 1st cycle is the 500mg per week of TESTOSTERONE
and a small dose AI to prevent any problems. Save the WINSTROL and DBOLS
for a later,,,advanced cycle.

[songdog]

Would someone plz tell me why someone needs 500mg for a 1st cycle? You cant you dont need that much.

[Nuzzi]

agreed, imo 250 is enough for first time. the aromasin is good to have handy, i wouldnt take it from the begining because you may not need it, so just do the test and see how it goes. if you start to feel like you need it then go from there. i made lots of mistakes my first time around so thats why im tryin to help you out.

[cash20]

Great Thread, I am also a beginner, there is so much in here and is alittle over wehlming but I think this thread set me straight for now, And help would be appreciated though. I will just do a 12 wk of Test and see how that runs for me. I do have a question though, I am having trouble accessing my account and what not, am I just awaiting to have access by the moderaters?

[SlimmerMe]

^^^^ if you are trying to access your profile or someone else's profile you need 50 posts....otherwise if another issue, please address this question in the ONE-ON-ONE with STAFF forum....thanks

[cash20]

K thx Slim, what would be a good PCT for after the first 12 wk test cycle?

[Nooomoto]

anyone have any comments on creatine, have taken lots kre alkalynes and creatines and dont know if its really worth it, if it really does much at all really

So you don't know what creatine does, and you've been doing dianabol and winstrol cycles, and now you want to add test? Jesus. You need to take a step back and do some research before you go too far.

[shooterdude]

So you don't know what creatine does, and you've been doing dianabol and winstrol cycles, and now you want to add test? Jesus. You need to take a step back and do some research before you go too far.

I know what creatine does, or is supposed to do. Personally from experience i think its a waste of money. Really i don't now if its really doing anything at all. and if it is very little. So when i run out this time i don't think i will get any more

[gixxerboy1]

Would someone plz tell me why someone needs 500mg for a 1st cycle? You cant you dont need that much.

There is no reason. It's one of the things that has been said over and over and now someone how has become steroid law.