BCAA vs. Whey? What do you use?

[Swifto]

The more I read on this the more I seem to lean towards BCAA dosing, instead of Whey.

1. Whey does nothing but f*cks with my stomach, BCAA's dont, ever.

2. BCAA's cause a rapid increase in plasma branch chain amino acids in the blood as they're not peptide bonded like whey and must be liberated through digestion and absorbed into the bloodstream to exert their effects.

3. They're cheap

4. Potent increase in protein synthesis and mTOR.

5. Because they hit the blood so fast, they can blunt the effects of protein degradation faster.

6. Most other amino acids found in whey can be consumed (well should be) by solid meals throughout the day.





What are your arguments for BCAA's and Whey?

[Nooomoto]

Both!

[Swifto]

Both!

Reasons please...

[Back In Black]

I'm starting to think your way too Swifto. Currently I sip 10g BCAA's intra workout and then whey/casein/oat shake PWO. But I'm almost thinking that shake is a waste.

If I am sipping 10g over an hours workout, why do I suddenly need whey when that workout and BCAA mix is finished. I reckon I could get away with a proper wholefood meal within 30 mins of finishing and actually be better off.

If you did drop whey would you stick solely with BCAA or would you add some EAA too?

[Swifto]

I'm starting to think your way too Swifto. Currently I sip 10g BCAA's intra workout and then whey/casein/oat shake PWO. But I'm almost thinking that shake is a waste.

If I am sipping 10g over an hours workout, why do I suddenly need whey when that workout and BCAA mix is finished. I reckon I could get away with a proper wholefood meal within 30 mins of finishing and actually be better off.

If you did drop whey would you stick solely with BCAA or would you add some EAA too?

I dont have much in the way of BCAA's left and my source is out of stock, so I ordered PeptoPro, which has been suggested as a super charged BCAA supplement with a good spectrum of amino acids. Pre digested to hits the blood very quick. I think its paramount to have a supplement like this. I know whey is quick, but it takes 2 or so hours to fully do its work, BCAAs and PeptoPro are faster to my knowledge.

I did order some Whey Isolate though... Haha...

Just for meal replacement with oats and some EVOO.

I dont think EAA's are needed if your diet is very broad in the way of protein, then top it up with BCAA and/or PeptoPro.

- BCAAs or PeptoPro for AM, in between meals, pre and PWO. Also at night if you wake

- Whey Iso or milk protein mix for meal replacement and pre-bed, or solid meal

- Solid meals as the backbone of your diet, before bed and good source of EAAs.

Job DONE!

[terraj]

Do you think the ratios make that bigger difference?

[Swifto]

Do you think the ratios make that bigger difference?

I add Leucine to my BCAAs.

[Back In Black]

I add Leucine to my BCAAs.

To what ratio would you add leucine?

Peptopro? Hydrolysed casein? Is that quicker than a whey isolate or even a whey hrdrolysate?

[terraj]

For me-

EAA and BCAA on waking before cardio....when I'm doing it.
BCAA during the day, pre and post workout.
No whey

Body and mind feels good, workout are very good, maintaining mass. I'm all for BCAA supplementation, they are an effective and underrated sup IMO

[CodyLee1337]

Personally I don't think you can go wrong with doing both. Due to quick absorbtion of whey protein post workout and combined with you're BCAAs its good all around.

[lovbyts]

I add my BCAA to a little bit of whey protein for Pre workout shake and just the Whey protein for post workout.

I get a good energy increase from the BCAA if taken 30 min before workout.

[Swifto]

I add my BCAA to a little bit of whey protein for Pre workout shake and just the Whey protein for post workout.

I get a good energy increase from the BCAA if taken 30 min before workout.

I dont see the point in doing that unless you're trying to boost the BCAA's in whey.

I prefer to use free form BCAA on an empty stomach. Elevates BCAA's mush faster than anything else (whey).

[M302_Imola]

I dont see the point in doing that unless you're trying to boost the BCAA's in whey.

I prefer to use free form BCAA on an empty stomach. Elevates BCAA's mush faster than anything else (whey).

Agree! BCAA's need to be taken independently on a empty stomach to ensure absorption. When BCAA's are taken at the same time as whey there is competition for absorption. Take your BCAA's wait 10-15 mins and then have your whey.

[Loki387]

Definitely both !