4th CYCLE OVERVIEW, TWEAK? or SOLID!

[nextdoorboy]

HIYA GUYS and GALS!
Stats:
Endomorphic body type
24 y.o. 9%BF
5'9 172lbs
Previously 240 lbs overweight when i was 12, then down to 140 after serious changes in my life when i was 15, then up to 175lbs after weight training since i was 18y.o.
3 cycles total over the past 2 years; 2 10 week test_e cycles and 1 test_p and tren_ace cycle.

I'll list what i have on hand, then the mock cycle im going to do for cutting lean gains.
PLEASE TWEAK THE CYCLE (with reasons why) IF YOU NEED TO

test e 250mg/ml
2x tren e 200mg/ml
forma_stanzol
2x pes erase (if you dont know, look it up. great stuff!)
anavar ((((NOT SURE WHERE TO PUT THIS)))
150 hcgenerate caps
clomid
letro (on hand)

Cycle:
1-10: tren e 400mg EW
1-10: test e 250mg EW (replace bodies natty test lost by tren)
2-14: pes erase 2 caps ED (lower estro from tren)
2-11: forma stanzol 8 pumps a day (4am/4pm) ((for estro and progesterone control))
8-12: HCgen 5 caps ED
12-16: clomid 50/50/20/20

ADVICE ON WHERE TO USE THE ANAVAR WOULD BE GREAT

[hyphy_beast]

This oughta be good...

[austinite]

Removed advice because OP lied about his age.

[Lunk1]

Well your gretting you said you were 24 now your 25....happy b-day. I love tren and I love helping ppl with tren related cycles but something doesn't smell right here so I will be observing from the cheap seats. Good luck!

[austinite]

Removed advice because OP lied about his age.

[t-dogg]

Im not 100% sure if Ive read this right, but If I did I wouldnt run this cycle at all. No AI or a complete PCT or HCG.

Winny and anavar in the same cycle?


What is a basic diet layout? Calories? Goals?

[songdog]

I need to have this translated beacuse you lost me bro.The only thing I know for sure is your diet is off.Hit the diet section and get your diet in line before you cycle.And some reasearch would help.Good luck Bro

[nextdoorboy]

Well your gretting you said you were 24 now your 25....happy b-day. I love tren and I love helping ppl with tren related cycles but something doesn't smell right here so I will be observing from the cheap seats. Good luck!

I thought maybe that was why it wasn't letting me post, because most wont give advice to anyone under 25yo. as soon as i changed it, it was able to post.

[austinite]

I thought maybe that was why it wasn't letting me post, because most wont give advice to anyone under 25yo. as soon as i changed it, it was able to post.

So you posted a new thread and lied about your age, not just changed it in your profile for "posting" purposes.

[Lunk1]

Having your TRUE stats including REAL age is very important. It should not require you to say you are a certain age just to post as kids come in here posting crap at 18 and 19 all day long...

[nextdoorboy]

Im not 100% sure if Ive read this right, but If I did I wouldnt run this cycle at all. No AI or a complete PCT or HCG.

Winny and anavar in the same cycle?


What is a basic diet layout? Calories? Goals?

I never said winnie... where did that come from?

[nextdoorboy]

So you posted a new thread and lied about your age, not just changed it in your profile for "posting" purposes.

no sir, i tried posting this same thing, except the age was 24, however it kept coming up with a "spammers" message about things not to say. in my greeting i said this, you told me welcome to it so im assuming you read it.

[austinite]

I never said winnie... where did that come from?

Stanazol is winny. For that reason you should not be cycling until you get more research under your belt.

[nextdoorboy]

Having your TRUE stats including REAL age is very important. It should not require you to say you are a certain age just to post as kids come in here posting crap at 18 and 19 all day long...

well you read my greeting, i told you it wasn't letting me post. once i changed that, it allowed it. idk...

[austinite]

OK. Let's forget the whole age thing...

You just need to do a lot more research bro. That's all there is to it. It will make for a safer cycle.

[nextdoorboy]

NOw im trying to post my diet and its giving me that ANNOYING spam software message.

[nextdoorboy]

Stanazol is winny. For that reason you should not be cycling until you get more research under your belt.

since when did forma stanzol become winnie?

[Lunk1]

I am curious as hell about your 9% BF. It sounds like you had some huge struggles you overcame as a young kid. Kudos to you. I am sure it was not eqasy as kids can be cruel. Would you mind posting a body pic or 2 just to see what kinda base you are working with and where you need to go?

[austinite]

NOw im trying to post my diet and its giving me that ANNOYING spam software message.

You might be posting too much too fast, which is a common thing for spammers. Give it a minute ad try again.

[nextdoorboy]

i can't seem to push my body anymore. i eat like a beast. Seriously, 7 egg white breakfast with chicken breast,
protein shake brunch, 2 chicken breast lunch with avocado, 2 bannanas and toast,
protein shake to drink forn second lunch ,
dinner is red meat with sweet potstoes, brown rice or eggs,
then my night cap is another shake.
I drink 2 watter bottles of milk intermittenly throughout the day milk AND a gallon of water everyday.
oh, and i snack on grapes or cherry tomatoes all day. Well, not all day, but when im hungry. Religiously, minus the actual holiday day, i stick to this. I don't drink except one a month, i sleep 8 hours and i have never touched narcotics At all.

[nextdoorboy]

I am curious as hell about your 9% BF. It sounds like you had some huge struggles you overcame as a young kid. Kudos to you. I am sure it was not eqasy as kids can be cruel. Would you mind posting a body pic or 2 just to see what kinda base you are working with and where you need to go?

will do. and yeah, thats why i decided to change my life, i wasn't going to be the fat kid in highschool. fluck that!

[austinite]

Didnt notice the "forma", its that topical shit?

[Lunk1]

Didnt notice the "forma", its that topical shit?

It is an AI that is supposed to work like HCG and clomi

[Lunk1]

will do. and yeah, thats why i decided to change my life, i wasn't going to be the gay, fat kid. fluck that!

Your sexual orientation is not an important stat.

[nextdoorboy]

I need to have this translated beacuse you lost me bro.The only thing I know for sure is your diet is off.Hit the diet section and get your diet in line before you cycle.And some reasearch would help.Good luck Bro

and i've been on the diet i FINALLY was ble to post above for the last 6-7 months. I know know i was not eating nearly enough to see gains, not to mention my first 2 cycles of test were way underdosed ( my buddy gave me the gear as a bday present. i was stupid. trial and error man, trial and error)

[austinite]

Gym time. I'll be back to check this thread later.

[nextdoorboy]

Didnt notice the "forma", its that topical shit?

it is, look it up if you dont know, it is AMAZING for tightening and gyno, though ive never had the gyno side thank goodness, but better safe then sorry

[austinite]

^ no thanks. I don't do transdermals.

[Lunk1]

Gym time. I'll be back to check this thread later.

Lucky...I gotta work all night!

[nextdoorboy]

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from left to right since my first cycle. see i was way too thin, then a bit of bloat, then finally started realizing wtf i was doing. A bit of size, thank goodness.

Goal in lay mens terms ( everyone can attest it is the classic physique) big everywhere except the waist

[nextdoorboy]

Lucky...I gotta work all night!

pics uploaded

[austinite]

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from left to right since my first cycle. see i was way too thin, then a bit of bloat, then finally started realizing wtf i was doing. A bit of size, thank goodness.

Goal in lay mens terms ( everyone can attest it is the classic physique) big everywhere except the waist

You need to eat bro. That is a good start but not a good frame to start cycling.

[nextdoorboy]

You need to eat bro. That is a good start but not a good frame to start cycling.

well i cant help my frame. if i could i wouldnt be trying to lean bulk with gear. LOL. THats why i started to begin with 3 cycles ago.

if youd like more info about the previous cycles you can PM me too

[Lunk1]

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from left to right since my first cycle. see i was way too thin, then a bit of bloat, then finally started realizing wtf i was doing. A bit of size, thank goodness.

Goal in lay mens terms ( everyone can attest it is the classic physique) big everywhere except the waist

OK! Now sit down...take a deep breath...relax and listen with an open mind.

You are lean, 8% might be pushing it though cause I see a little mor fat than that imo.

You really need to take this next year to live in the nutrition and workout sub forums. You need to eat more and increase cals to put on muscle mass. It looks to me like your gym routine could be better as well.

I really believe that if you follow this advise and put on a nice base over the next year you will be able to do a cycle that will not be awaste and a disapointment!

[Lunk1]

well i cant help my frame. if i could i wouldnt be trying to lean bulk with gear. LOL. THats why i started to begin with 3 cycles ago.

if youd like more info about the previous cycles you can PM me too

With 3 cycles down dude you should be 25-40 lbs heavier and lean!

[warmouth]

I am seeing 12% BF, maybe a touch higher. And some big ol' nipples. Good god man! What are you feeding those things? just kidding around. Listen to Lunk and Austinite. They can help tremendously!

[nextdoorboy]

With 3 cycles down dude you should be 25-40 lbs heavier and lean!

OK - breathing... yeah, my 3 other cycles were just junk. Young and dumb, I only did 100mg test a week for 8 weeks both times ( my buddy said it was an extra 100mg on top of my already produced test and itd be plenty) so those were a waste and a bust. Luckily they were a bday present from him, so no money lost.

then the test/ tren ace was six weeks, but again, too low to see anything. N-E-Thing except what you see between picture 3 and 4.

SO - now u see why im finally talking to smarties (u guys) vs my idiot friend.

Im perfectly fine waiting as long as it takes to get the right system down with your guys help.

SO, for WAY FUTURE reference, how does that mock cycle i posted look?


THANK YOU LUNK1

[nextdoorboy]

I am seeing 12% BF, maybe a touch higher. And some big ol' nipples. Good god man! What are you feeding those things? just kidding around. Listen to Lunk and Austinite. They can help tremendously!

see thats what i heard all through younger years... if i could change my "peperoni's" i would... but thanks for your lovely assertation of the body parts i cant change.

[nextdoorboy]

I am seeing 12% BF, maybe a touch higher.

And my doctore, my trainer and nutitionist agree - 8-9% BF

and because of how my body looks at 8%BF is why im looking at tren, for is leaner look as well as vasularity

[Lunk1]

OK - breathing... yeah, my 3 other cycles were just junk. Young and dumb, I only did 100mg test a week for 8 weeks both times ( my buddy said it was an extra 100mg on top of my already produced test and itd be plenty) so those were a waste and a bust. Luckily they were a bday present from him, so no money lost.

then the test/ tren ace was six weeks, but again, too low to see anything. N-E-Thing except what you see between picture 3 and 4.

SO - now u see why im finally talking to smarties (u guys) vs my idiot friend.

Im perfectly fine waiting as long as it takes to get the right system down with your guys help.

SO, for WAY FUTURE reference, how does that mock cycle i posted look?
THANK YOU LUNK1

Your buddy is a moran...you can pass that along from me. When you take test it shuts down your natty test therefore it does NOT ADD to your existing level (what a dumbaas)

I will not condone a cycle or discuss it till I feel that you have made the effort to get on the right track. At that point I would siggest a test only cycle to get it right for once. Like starting from square 1!