military aas users?

[Armykid93]

Anybody on the board currently enlisted and using. If so how do you keep it hidden and is it easy to cycle while enlisted

Shut up and lift

[BBrian]

I did and it's really no different than having to keep it hidden from those you live with. You do not want to boast about using or show off your sudden gain in muscle mass either, obviously, as steroid use is against military law. Just don't be stupid. The test for steroids is a fairly expensive one and not something administered without direct suspicion, but they will be forced to do it if you ever come out and tell anyone that you are using. I had a thing with a female MP when I was in and she actually warned me that my barracks were being swept by the MP's the following week. I hid them far out of site above the drop-ceiling and was fine.

[BBrian]

And stop telling me to shut up.

[Armykid93]

I did and it's really no different than having to keep it hidden from those you live with. You do not want to boast about using or show off your sudden gain in muscle mass either, obviously, as steroid use is against military law. Just don't be stupid. The test for steroids is a fairly expensive one and not something administered without direct suspicion, but they will be forced to do it if you ever come out and tell anyone that you are using. I had a thing with a female MP when I was in and she actually warned me that my barracks were being swept by the MP's the following week. I hid them far out of site above the drop-ceiling and was fine.

Good to know. thanks man

Shut up and lift

[Armykid93]

And stop telling me to shut up.

And I'll work on it haha

Shut up and lift

[thex95]

Armykid93 you should not be doing steroids at all for at least 6 years. Your too young man. It says ony our profile your 18 and I am guessing you were born in 93?

[slfmade]

What is the punishment if you get caught? Is it worth the risk?

For civilians it would probably just be a slap on the wrist, but if you get busted and lose your career over it...probably not worth it if you ask me.

[BBrian]

Yes, it's a pretty big risk. It could result in anything from being demoted a rank to being dishonorably discharged. I also knew some people who would keep their gear at friends houses out in town, but that isn't always an option either. But on that note taking steroids comes with risks in many different forms, in the end we weigh the pros and cons and make our own decisions. In the end the responsibility lies in our own laps.

[Armykid93]

Armykid93 you should not be doing steroids at all for at least 6 years. Your too young man. It says ony our profile your 18 and I am guessing you were born in 93?

I hadn't planned on it until I was 24. You'll also notice my profile says i'm learning so eventually I can do my first cycle. I'm well aware of the dangers of underage steroid use.

[bubsy]

I read on a site once that its like a schedule 3 drug so i guess there is just a fine!

I found a site for americans, dude its hectic for u guys:

What types of punishments are given for illegal possession of steroids on a federal level?
Simple possession of any schedule III substance is a federal offense punishable by up to one year in prison and/or a minimum fine of $1,000

2nd offense?
Mandatory imprisonment of a minimum of 15 days and a maximum of 2 years and a minimum fine of up to $2,500

3rd offense?
Mandatory 90 days to a maximum 3 years and a minimum fine of $5,000 for simple possession.

What about possession with intent to distribute?
Any case of trafficking (selling or possessing enough to be suspected of selling) is a federal felony punishable with not more than 5 years imprisonment with 2 years parole and a fine of $250,000 if this is the individuals first drug offense.

2nd offense?
Maximum 10 years imprisonment with a minimum 4 years parole and/or increased fines

[Armykid93]

What is the punishment if you get caught? Is it worth the risk?

For civilians it would probably just be a slap on the wrist, but if you get busted and lose your career over it...probably not worth it if you ask me.

Its basically impossible to get caught if you don't tell anyone. My recruiter said to get tested they must also test 5 other people. Since its so expensive they never really do. he said the military really doesn't care if someone is using but they can't look like they support it.

[BBrian]

I read on a site once that its like a schedule 3 drug so i guess there is just a fine!

I found a site for americans, dude its hectic for u guys:

What types of punishments are given for illegal possession of steroids on a federal level?
Simple possession of any schedule III substance is a federal offense punishable by up to one year in prison and/or a minimum fine of $1,000

2nd offense?
Mandatory imprisonment of a minimum of 15 days and a maximum of 2 years and a minimum fine of up to $2,500

3rd offense?
Mandatory 90 days to a maximum 3 years and a minimum fine of $5,000 for simple possession.

What about possession with intent to distribute?
Any case of trafficking (selling or possessing enough to be suspected of selling) is a federal felony punishable with not more than 5 years imprisonment with 2 years parole and a fine of $250,000 if this is the individuals first drug offense.

2nd offense?
Maximum 10 years imprisonment with a minimum 4 years parole and/or increased fines

The military uses a different set of laws and punishments. As long as someone does not get in trouble off-base, these are actually irrelevant statistics.

[bubsy]

The military uses a different set of laws and punishments. As long as someone does not get in trouble off-base, these are actually irrelevant statistics.

Would it worse cause u in the army or would you be better off?

[BBrian]

Depends on how you look at it but the punishments are typically less severe.

[thex95]

Your allowed to use it in the Canadian military. The more I learn about the differences in Canadian and American steroid laws, the happier I am to be a Canadian lol.

[BBrian]

Your allowed to use it in the Canadian military. The more I learn about the differences in Canadian and American steroid laws, the happier I am to be a Canadian lol.

Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, no doubt man.

Do they set any regulations on moderation of use?

[thex95]

Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, no doubt man.

Do they set any regulations on moderation of use?

Actually no, its kind of weird how it works. The canadian forces are governed by Canadian civilian law, as well as canadian military law known as the Queens Regulations and Orders or QR&O's. It is stated in the QR&O's that the personal consumption of Anabolic steroids is not an offence of QR&O's nor is it an offence of Canadian civilian law. Keep in mind however the last time I checked this was a year and a half ago. Their was a huge incident where some retard new privates were caught manufacturing drugs in their barracks, and part of the bust was a large amount of injectible steroids. So it is quite possible that they amended this int he QR&O's in the typical situation of a few bad apples ruining a good thing for everyone.

[Armykid93]

Would it worse cause u in the army or would you be better off?

Much better off especially the higher your rank

[Armykid93]

Your allowed to use it in the Canadian military. The more I learn about the differences in Canadian and American steroid laws, the happier I am to be a Canadian lol.

What substances are you allowed to use?

[thex95]

Much better off especially the higher your rank

If your talking about being better or worse off being caught with steorids depending on if your military or not your MUCH worse off being caught if your in the military. Also as your rank increases the worse off you are if you get caught with steroids.

[thex95]

What substances are you allowed to use?

The QR&O's do not specify, steroids are all just referred to as Anobolic steroids. Its a catch all. Once again keep in mind this very possibly could have changed since last I checked.

[GettinSwole66]

Anybody on the board currently enlisted and using. If so how do you keep it hidden and is it easy to cycle while enlisted

Shut up and lift

I just retired from the Army...Did a full 20yrs and cycled for around my last 8yrs. They DO NOT test for steroids when they do the usual monthly or quarterly urinalysis, its too expensive of a test. Now if you go and let it be known that you've become this beast in the gym and start putting on 15lbs a yr of solid muscle, you may draw a bit too much attention to yourself. If they suspect something is up, then yes they can and will test you for whatever they feel the need...Hope this helps!

[BBrian]

If your talking about being better or worse off being caught with steorids depending on if your military or not your MUCH worse off being caught if your in the military. Also as your rank increases the worse off you are if you get caught with steroids.

This really wouldn't be the case in the US. My favorite analogy is the difference between getting caught drinking & driving on base vs. off base. If you get picked up for DUI off base, you lose your license for a long time, pay a ridiculous fine, get probation, and now states have been implementing mandatory jail time. If you get a DUI on base, you will probably lose 1 rank and get some barracks duty, maybe even lose your driving privileges on base for a while. And for those who have higher ranks, penalties for things such as taking steroids will be less severe, depending on people like your Battalion Commander, as they tend to have more respect for your military career.

[Armykid93]

If your talking about being better or worse off being caught with steorids depending on if your military or not your MUCH worse off being caught if your in the military. Also as your rank increases the worse off you are if you get caught with steroids.

If your rank is high you will be better of than if your a private our something low

[thex95]

This really wouldn't be the case in the US. My favorite analogy is the difference between getting caught drinking & driving on base vs. off base. If you get picked up for DUI off base, you lose your license for a long time, pay a ridiculous fine, get probation, and now states have been implementing mandatory jail time. If you get a DUI on base, you will probably lose 1 rank and get some barracks duty, maybe even lose your driving privileges on base for a while. And for those who have higher ranks, penalties for things such as taking steroids will be less severe, depending on people like your Battalion Commander, as they tend to have more respect for your military career.

wow thats the polar opposite of how it is here, very interesting. I suppose because we are under two sets of laws the first part of getting caught as a civilian vs getting caught as military makes sense. I just don't understand the logic behind a higher rank getting less of a penalty for breaking the law than a lower rank. Leadership is supposed to lead by example and getting caught with steroids is the opposite of this. The DUI example works here for the Canadian military aswell. When a pte gets a DUI he suffers the typical DUI penalty, plus extras. When a higher rank such as a section commander gets one, odds are he will lose his section, get demoted and face a much more severe penalty on top of all that. Very interesting.

Also I am not saying one system is better than the other, just comparing the two.

[GettinSwole66]

If your rank is high you will be better of than if your a private our something low

Yes. If they have a SSG thats been in 15yrs compared to a bran new Private and you both get caught doing the exact same thing, its much easier to just get rid of the Private. They have less invested and can train someone new the next day. On the other hand they have that 15yr vet that they've got thousands invested in. He can be punished enough that he learns his lesson and they still have a experienced Soldier that can work with no need of re-training. They save money by keeping in the higher ranked Soldiers.

[BBrian]

wow thats the polar opposite of how it is here, very interesting. I suppose because we are under two sets of laws the first part of getting caught as a civilian vs getting caught as military makes sense. I just don't understand the logic behind a higher rank getting less of a penalty for breaking the law than a lower rank. Leadership is supposed to lead by example and getting caught with steroids is the opposite of this. The DUI example works here for the Canadian military aswell. When a pte gets a DUI he suffers the typical DUI penalty, plus extras. When a higher rank such as a section commander gets one, odds are he will lose his section, get demoted and face a much more severe penalty on top of all that. Very interesting.

Also I am not saying one system is better than the other, just comparing the two.

Well it sounds like your system makes more sense. Someone in a higher leadership position should be held to a higher degree of responsibility.

[Honkey_Kong]

I read on a site once that its like a schedule 3 drug so i guess there is just a fine!

I found a site for americans, dude its hectic for u guys:

What types of punishments are given for illegal possession of steroids on a federal level?
Simple possession of any schedule III substance is a federal offense punishable by up to one year in prison and/or a minimum fine of $1,000

2nd offense?
Mandatory imprisonment of a minimum of 15 days and a maximum of 2 years and a minimum fine of up to $2,500

3rd offense?
Mandatory 90 days to a maximum 3 years and a minimum fine of $5,000 for simple possession.

What about possession with intent to distribute?
Any case of trafficking (selling or possessing enough to be suspected of selling) is a federal felony punishable with not more than 5 years imprisonment with 2 years parole and a fine of $250,000 if this is the individuals first drug offense.

2nd offense?
Maximum 10 years imprisonment with a minimum 4 years parole and/or increased fines

That's just civilian law. Soldiers also have to deal with military law.

[wmaousley]

Much better off especially the higher your rank

Rank doesnt really matter, leave Military law to those who have served

[wmaousley]

Its basically impossible to get caught if you don't tell anyone. My recruiter said to get tested they must also test 5 other people. Since its so expensive they never really do. he said the military really doesn't care if someone is using but they can't look like they support it.

Your recruiter is a dipshlt, why in the hell are you discussing illegal drug activity with him/her? Ofcourse the military cares. If they didnt, AAS would be allowed wouldnt they?

[wmaousley]

And I'll work on it haha

Shut up and lift

Your whole "shut up and lift" comment is driving me nuts.

[Armykid93]

Your whole "shut up and lift" comment is driving me nuts.

Same add threnody else. I got rid of
Haha really fd this comment up. Damn Android phone

[Armykid93]

Your whole "shut up and lift" comment is driving me nuts.

Same as everybody else. I got rid of it.

[Armykid93]

Your recruiter is a dipshlt, why in the hell are you discussing illegal drug activity with him/her? Ofcourse the military cares. If they didnt, AAS would be allowed wouldnt they?

As you can see from a post on page 3 they do not care. If they did they would test for it. Just like how the teachers at my friends music college get stoned all the time with him then tell them in class not to Smoke . They must look like they don't support it regardless of their opinion.

[Armykid93]

The QR&O's do not specify, steroids are all just referred to as Anobolic steroids. Its a catch all. Once again keep in mind this very possibly could have changed since last I checked.

And that's really interesting. Wish our laws were the same.

[Razor]

[Honkey_Kong]

As you can see from a post on page 3 they do not care. If they did they would test for it. Just like how the teachers at my friends music college get stoned all the time with him then tell them in class not to Smoke . They must look like they don't support it regardless of their opinion.

I'm pretty sure the Army is against it. What it comes down to is the cost effectiveness of testing people for steroids. If the military had an unlimited supply of money, they'd probably test everybody for every banned drug on a regular basis.

[Armykid93]

I'm pretty sure the Army is against it. What it comes down to is the cost effectiveness of testing people for steroids. If the military had an unlimited supply of money, they'd probably test everybody for every banned drug on a regular basis.

Our current president does think wet have an unlimited supply lol

[Armykid93]

And btw I wasn't talking to my recruiter about it. I didn't bring it up. When I walked in there I was 5'8 and 210 with under 10 percent bf so they all joked about how I was juicing because I was really big even though I am actually natural. then they started going on about how id be ok juicing in the military since the laws are so lax

[Honkey_Kong]

Our current president does think wet have an unlimited supply lol

We're due for a regime change, don't worry.