Shit sleep

[GOONBAH]

Complicated one here :

I sleep like shit , even with 2 valiums, i wake up every one to 2 hours , wide awake , i feel tired during the day , sore eyes and i feel its effecting my recovery .... heres the reason i think maybe (or all are) contributing ..

*post comp
*weight gain
*snoring
*high dose tren
*high dose test
*gh ????


im in training for the arnold ams ... so im bulls to the wall with everything, recovery is imperitive

im taking naps during the day, usually post workout , i train twice a day, cardio first thing too

Anyone have ideas on how or what i can do to help my sleep quality , i dont want to rely on sleeping drugs?

Any thoughts or idead would be appreciated?

[P0RK CH0P]

If you're taking stimulants I would cut back on those. You could try some natural sleep aids like melatonin, or 5 htp.

[Sgt. Hartman]

You say you're running high dose tren and don't know why you can't sleep???

Either deal with the sides or drop the compound.

[Bonaparte]

You say you're running high dose tren and don't know why you can't sleep???

Either deal with the sides or drop the compound.

This.
If Valium isn't cutting it, nothing is going to help besides lowering the tren.

[GOONBAH]

i was affraid you were going to say that ...

ive used Dorian yates GH blast in the past, but found it made me groggy the next day

can anyone recommend a similar product ?

[ironbeck]

What is a high dose of tren?
Snoring can be the laymans term for sleep apnea and this will definitely cause shit sleep

[dawgskin]

Have sex before bed best sleep agent ever ! Or jerk off angrily haha I would also recommend 15-20 mg of melatonin a night

[Bonaparte]

Have sex before bed best sleep agent ever ! Or jerk off angrily haha I would also recommend 15-20 mg of melatonin a night

????!!!
The tabs range from .3 to 3mg.
1mg is plenty, and you think you need 15-20mg??

[ironbeck]

????!!!
The tabs range from .3 to 3mg.
1mg is plenty, and you think you need 15-20mg??

A 3mg is a lot and is not to be taken on a consistent basis.

[austinite]

I don't know about all that. 3mg is nothing.

[Hazard]

You don't want to rely on sleep meds but ur relying on Valium?

It's most likely the tren in which case like Bonaparte said..... If Valium isn't helping then ur kinda out of luck.

[MuscleInk]

You say you're running high dose tren and don't know why you can't sleep???

Either deal with the sides or drop the compound.

Really not trying to be an a$$ here.....but how does someone at a precomp stage running high tren NOT understand and recognize the side effects?????????

[MuscleInk]

????!!!
The tabs range from .3 to 3mg.
1mg is plenty, and you think you need 15-20mg??

He's full of good advice I find Bonepart, lol

[dawgskin]

I didn't say take it every night, just take when ur sleepless, I personally buy 5mg tablets and find anything under 15 mg doesn't help me sleep at all but that's just me. Just start at 3 mg or 5 mg w.e u buy and up it if u need to

[Bert]

Ambian works for me.

[BuffnStuff]

1mg of Valium is nothing. LOL at who said 3mg of Valium is a lot. Eat 2 10mg Valium you'll be fine. I have a hard time getting good sleep running Tren. I'll take some Valium or muscle relaxers sometimes before bed. Helps sometimes for some good sleep.

[Bonaparte]

1mg of Valium is nothing. LOL at who said 3mg of Valium is a lot. Eat 2 10mg Valium you'll be fine. I have a hard time getting good sleep running Tren. I'll take some Valium or muscle relaxers sometimes before bed. Helps sometimes for some good sleep.

Easy with the rec drug discussion.
We were talking about melatonin doses.

[dawgskin]

Hahahah everyone has different tolerance levels when it comes to recreational drug use

[Bonaparte]

Hahahah everyone has different tolerance levels when it comes to recreational drug use

What are you laughing about?
Go back and carefully reread the thread, because you're the only one discussing rec drug use.
Melatonin is not code for anything else.

[austinite]

Hahahah everyone has different tolerance levels when it comes to recreational drug use

Seriously dawgskin. Don't disregard bona's request... no rec drug talk.

[dawgskin]

Sry boys won't happen again
didn't realize melatonin was a big deal tho?anyone can get it at walmart

[Ashop]

If you're taking stimulants I would cut back on those. You could try some natural sleep aids like melatonin, or 5 htp.

ZMA works real well for me,,,sometimes I even just use a ZINC/COPPER mix.
TREN is notorious for insomnia especially high dosage.

[BuffnStuff]

Easy with the rec drug discussion.
We were talking about melatonin doses.

Sorry I didn't know that would be a problem. On another note..one thing that works good too is Extra Strength Benadryl Nighttime. I never liked taking sleeping pills because if I don't get at least 8hrs of sleep I wake up feeling very groggy and I fight to stay awake threw most my work day.

[Bonaparte]

Sry boys won't happen again
didn't realize melatonin was a big deal tho?anyone can get it at walmart

...Melatonin isn't a recreational drug. Opiates are.

[AD]

He's full of good advice I find Bonepart, lol

if i ask 10 members to spell out his name, 9 will get it wrong. maybe its time to pick another name, Napoleon?

[Bonaparte]

if i ask 10 members to spell out his name, 9 will get it wrong. maybe its time to pick another name, Napoleon?

IDK how, when it is one of the more notorious names in history. lol

[AD]

IDK how, when it is one of the more notorious names in history. lol

hey! thats a great idea! to get a good night's sleep, start reading history lol

[MuscleInk]

hey! thats a great idea! to get a good night's sleep, start reading history lol

My dissertation will cure insomnia. Guaranteed!