Buster B's Tes P, Tren A, Tbol, HGH cycle

[Buster Brown]

Here is the cycle plan:
Tes P, 150 mgs. eod
Tren A, 120 mgs. eod
Tbol, 50 mgs ed for 4 weeks
HGH, 8 iu's 5 on 2 off
T4, 100 mcgs ed
Hcg, 250 iu's 2x a week
Caber, .50 2x a week
Adex, .25 eod (to start)
Nov, (on hand if/when gyno symptoms start popping up)

This is an 8 weeker and will begin TRT after cycle is over. Starting weight 196 lbs. Looking to add 300 to 500 calories to tdee and incorperate carb cycling into the diet plan.

[OnTheSauce]

I'm assuming you meant hcg twice a week. Using tbol the whole 8 weeks?

[crazy mike]

Tbol 50mg ED wk 1-4
Test p 100mg eod wk 1-4
Test E 500 mg wk 1-8

Keep Adex at .25 mg EOD all the way till PCT

That's all I got for this cycle Diet , diet , diet. ...crazy mike

BW a necessity

[Buster Brown]

I'm assuming you meant hcg twice a week. Using tbol the whole 8 weeks?

Yes, my bad hcg 2x a week @ 250 ius. Will be using the tbol for only 4 weeks most likely. I edited the post, should have proof read it again.

[Buster Brown]

Tbol 50mg ED wk 1-4
Test p 100mg eod wk 1-4
Test E 500 mg wk 1-8

Keep Adex at .25 mg EOD all the way till PCT

That's all I got for this cycle Diet , diet , diet. ...crazy mike

BW a necessity

I am confused, not sure what you are driving at. I have already got the thumbs up from a couple of vets that have helped me out with this cycle. Diet always being the key to success.

[Buster Brown]

Into my first week and smooth sailing so far. I have experienced gyno symtoms in the past around week five and like I posted above, will be using Nov if said symtoms pop up.

[Buster Brown]

Gear selection:
I am using Kalpa Tes P, Kalpa Tbol, and Chemical Muscle Tren A. Have used all of these compounds before with great success. For hgh I am using a variety, mainly ukranian jins and Hyges.

[Buster Brown]

Half way through the first week and I am happy to say that I am glad I stuck with the Tbols. Workouts have been more productive all the way around in terms of volume, poundages, and intensity. I choose the orals because last go around with prop and tren still took a few weeks to really feel it even though they are both fast acting esthers.

[Buster Brown]

A week into it and I have gone from 194 to 200. Not exactly the kind of jump in weight I was looking for. Looks like I will have to step up the cardio a bit before this gets ahead of me. I am considering this cycle a bulk and if I put on some bad weight then so be it but I would like to have a little more control over the weight increases week by week.

[spin_doctor]

What made you go with Tbol over Dbol? I considered adding one of the two into my first cycle, but decided to wait until my second before adding anything other than Test. On my second I was thinking Dbol or Tbol, just haven't decided which yet.

[Buster Brown]

What made you go with Tbol over Dbol? I considered adding one of the two into my first cycle, but decided to wait until my second before adding anything other than Test. On my second I was thinking Dbol or Tbol, just haven't decided which yet.

I choose tbol over dbol because I am prone to bloating when using Tes @ 500 mgs or more or week (diet or not) and I use the tbol just to get the party started earlier. Yes, I am using fast acting esthers but I still don't really get the "feel" on them to the beginning of week 3 even though my blood levels are up. I think it boils down to preference and what you want to accomplish. If you are prone to water retention then maybe go with the tbol if it isn't a problem for you then try dbol. Tbol can be thought of as a mild dbol or a poor mans var.

[Buster Brown]

Trying to clean up my diet but it's tough while on vacation. Much easier to stay the path during a normal work week due to its repetitive nature. My calories are there, it's just that I feel that carb cycling is the way to go and you are less likely to put on bad weight. Carb cycling can be a bit tricky in a bulk due to the fact that you are trying to get in as many carbs in during the first part of the day as possible.

[Live for the PUMP]

Sounds like a good cycle. Keep posting updates. Good luck with it.

[Buster Brown]

Sounds like a good cycle. Keep posting updates. Good luck with it.

Thanks, hoping this one will break my plateau. We'll see.

[Buster Brown]

Two weeks on and up 13 lbs. would love to be doing more cardio but my left knee has been killing me for a while now. The hgh and t4 combo seem to be keeping the flub off for now so I will keep my fingers crossed.

[Buster Brown]

Starting week 3 and I feel the workouts getting better and better. I always seem to gain size right from the get go but the big strength seems to take a few weeks, even with a kickstart. Will be adding in more drop sets, rest -pause, and negatives as the cycle progresses to keep things challenging.

[OnTheSauce]

How's the bf with that quick gain?

[Buster Brown]

How's the bf with that quick gain?

Went up a click on the fat calipers. I am not concerned at this point. Lean mass cycles are great for summertime and really liked the one I did this past summer with a low dose of Tes but I didn't grow all that much. I am eating just about the same calories and using a bigger dose of Tes to do some growing. I figured when I go on my cruise post-cycle, I will have plenty of time to address any unwanted flub. BF pre-cycle was 10-12%.

[Buster Brown]

Weighing in at 210 at the end of my third week.

[OnTheSauce]

Getting big bro. Holding some water, may need to up your ai. Getting bloodwork done?

[Buster Brown]

Getting big bro. Holding some water, may need to up your ai. Getting bloodwork done?

Def holding a little water but I think it is due to the 3 day camping trip I just went on with the boys. I think we had bacon with every meal (not good). Getting bloodwork done in the the Northeast is a pain in the ass, there aren't any Pvt. Med Labs in any of the states that touch MA and you can't see an endo without a pre-existing condition. I am going to wait until after cycle and go on trt and get bloodwork done in an effort to get dialed in. At this point I will have my PCP test my Tes levels PSA etc.

[Buster Brown]

Starting to see some strength gains. Yesterdays chest routine looked like this:
Barbll Incline: 135/12, 225/5, 275/5 (warm-ups) 300/4, 275/8, 250/10, 225/12 Flat Dumbell: 110/7, 100/9, 100/8, 100/8.
Incline flyes: 50/10 * 4

Traps:
135/12, 225/12, 315/12, 405/8, (455/5 drop set down to 135 one plate at a time.)

[crazy mike]

Weighing in at 210 at the end of my third week.

Looking good man ! A real nice bulk.

Starting to see some strength gains. Yesterdays chest routine looked like this:
Barbll Incline: 135/12, 225/5, 275/5 (warm-ups) 300/4, 275/8, 250/10, 225/12 Flat Dumbell: 110/7, 100/9, 100/8, 100/8.
Incline flyes: 50/10 * 4

Traps:
135/12, 225/12, 315/12, 405/8, (455/5 drop set down to 135 one plate at a time.)

This is great. Bet it's very motivating!! Stick with it and stay careful as you train hard man. Good luck ...crazy mike

[AlphaMike]

Weighing in at 210 at the end of my third week.

Lookin solid man.

[Buster Brown]

Looking good man ! A real nice bulk.



This is great. Bet it's very motivating!! Stick with it and stay careful as you train hard man. Good luck ...crazy mike

Thanks man, trying to make this one count.

[Buster Brown]

Lookin solid man.

Thanks bro, hoping I can break through a few plateaus on this cycle.

[Buster Brown]

Shoulders today:

Seated Milt: 135/12, 225/5...warm-ups. 275/6, 275/6, 250/8, 225/12
Arnold presses: 60/8 *3
Rear delts: 50/8*2, 40/10, 30/8 drop 20/10
Lateral raises: 40/8, 30/10, 30/8, 30/6 drop 20/10

Also did triceps and abs. Happy with the strength gains on Milt press, this is def the week that the strength is kicking in. I find that with a kick start or not, it still takes about three weeks for my strength to really kick in.

[spin_doctor]

Nice Military presses...strong

[Buster Brown]

Legs yesterday. Best set was Squats @ 455 for 8. I do box squats when performing squats these days and try to always perform no less then 8 reps due to my knees.
Happy to say that I haven't had any sides creeping up yet but it is still a little early and I usually start to get a bit of nip sensitivity around week 5 and 6.

[Buster Brown]

Starting week 5 and weighing 213 lbs. Chest day went well, here is my bench routine:
Flat bench warm-ups:
135/12, 225/5, 275/5, 315/5
Flat bench working wets:
365/1, 315/8, 275/10, 225/17

[Phoenix18]

Very impressive man. I'm interested to see the gains you make, I'll be following along.

[measuretwicecutonce]

excellent. ill defly be watching this log. about to start a similar course.
curious to whether you've run a similar tren dosage with a lower test dose?

[Buster Brown]

excellent. ill defly be watching this log. about to start a similar course.
curious to whether you've run a similar tren dosage with a lower test dose?

I did just that over the summer and I had mixed feelings over the cycle. Looks wise, I was harder but just didn't put on the size. I am eating the same calories as I was on that cycle but with more Tes. I am of the opinion now that a minimum 1:1 ratio of Tes and Tren will add more size then a 2:1 ratio Tren to Tes.

[Buster Brown]

Very impressive man. I'm interested to see the gains you make, I'll be following along.

Thanks bro, I am liking this cycle alot. I am by no means a big Bench guy but think it will be possible to put up 380 in the next few weeks. Already at a 18 to 20 lb. weight increase and just looking to keep the bulk as clean as possible.

[OnTheSauce]

Your body weight has sky rocketed! So jealous bro!

[Buster Brown]

Your body weight has sky rocketed! So jealous bro!

TBH, I always seem to gain all my weight early in the cycle regardless of cycle dosage or calories and the strength seems to kick in around week 4 or 5. My problem is keeping my gains at 43. Hoping the self-admin. TRT dose will take care of most of the problem. Seems that I only retain about 20% of what I gained on cycle, no doubt cycling without any pct's back in my 20's have taken there toll and certainly didn't help things out.

[Buster Brown]

Into week 6 and the strength just keeps getting better, here is a sample chest routine with just my two compound movement stats:
Flat Barbell bench press: (warm-ups) 136/12, 225/5, 275/5, 325/3,
Working sets: 380/1, 335/4, 315/8, 275/12
Incline Barbell press: 225/15, 225/12, 225/12, 225/10

[Buster Brown]

Starting week 7 and still holding at 213, which is a 20 lb. gain. Strength is great and like the size but my cardio is down the tubes big time. I think it is difficult to find a happy medium when buliking when looking for size. Once off cycle I will begin to to get back on track with the cardio but for now and the next two weeks it will be eat big, train hard, and lots of weight for me!

[Buster Brown]

I noticed there was a thread about CM being dirty gear and as you may know, I have been using there Tren A for this cycle. I think I will finish up the little bit I have left in the vial and call it a day. Makes absolutely no sense in terms of risk so why push ones luck.

[Buster Brown]

Today was back day. Strength has leveled out somewhat, which is to be expected.