TEST. Is it really neccessary.

[Begenius]

Why do many people always want to preech test when they are so many people who have success without even using it.

[austinite]

Just because you added muscle, does not mean you succeeded. It's just an unhealthy approach and more is lost in the mix than gained.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...all-costs.html

[Begenius]

That's a generalized answer I gained no knowledge from that response. But thank you for responding.

[austinite]

That's a generalized answer I gained no knowledge from that response. But thank you for responding.

So you can type but you can't read? I provided a detailed link.

[Begenius]

Oh thanks for the link too. I just noticed it.

[austinite]

lol. You can just tell you're already on the defense. Keep an open mind, Kiddo.

[< <Samson> >]

TEST. Is it really neccessary.


Is a working dick?

[Begenius]

Ok I get it gear shuts down your natural production and tESt replaces it and keeps the body function normal. I don't like smart ass responses say something intelligent. There's no such thing as a dumb question. Just a dumb answer.

[kelkel]

There's no such thing as a dumb question. Just a dumb answer.

No, there's actually both.

[Red Bastard]

...There's no such thing as a dumb question. Just a dumb answer.

In certain places/situations, sure, but, here, where there is a wealth of information, even without using the search function, no. Your question has been answered in every way possible, in 1,000 threads per year. A lazy question is a stupid question.

I tell my sons "ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer!" Now, they think, and research first, and are all the wiser for it...

[Times Roman]

Why do many people always want to preech test when they are so many people who have success without even using it.

How would you define success?

Is it OK to sacrifice long term health for short term gains?

If you can still achieve these short term gains and at the same time not have to make the long term health sacrifice, why wouldn't you do it?

[HitIt]

Be careful, he's a genius.

[< <Samson> >]

The time has come

The wheel has been reinvented

[Begenius]

I hate when people that have more knowledge about a subject try and make themselves seem smarter by making ignorant comments to those learning about a subject. Feel like a man now.

[Times Roman]

I hate when people that have more knowledge about a subject try and make themselves seem smarter by making ignorant comments to those learning about a subject. Feel like a man now.

Mate,

This is a two way street. I will attempt to answer your questions in good faith, but you also need to ask them in good faith as well. One way to ask good faith questions, especially if the question flies in the face of everything we try to teach day in and day out, is to use this first:

(search button)

and do some of your research first, and try and find out why we say what we say. At least having the appearance of having read something first ahead of time is helpful. We have sticky notes in all the relevant sections to try and answer some of the most basic of questions, such as what you have asked.

Cheers!
---Roman

[Times Roman]

And if you could be so kind as to answer the question I posed in frame #9?

Thanks again

[austinite]

I hate when people that have more knowledge about a subject try and make themselves seem smarter by making ignorant comments to those learning about a subject. Feel like a man now.

So far you've done nothing but make similar remarks to the ones you complained about. Hypocrisy at it's finest. Do you have an actual rebuttal, or are you just stirring the pot?

[Times Roman]

and about doing your homework before asking questions that are contrary to generally accepted advice.....

if you open the Q&A section, you would see the following stickies (open this file)


and then open the Starter Pack (click this link)

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...d-edition.html

there is so much to read and learn in this one sticky alone. Please do your diligence and then let me know if you still need me to answer this question.

Fair enough?

---Roman

[michael30]

, what would be the benefit of not running test?

[Cuz]

, what would be the benefit of not running test?

He probably has a part time job after school but...test probably isn't in the budget...

[< <Samson> >]

, what would be the benefit of not running test?

No pinning, guys are scared to pin but will pop any pill that falls in their hand

I been there


Back in the day, about 5 years ago I came on a big steroid board(not this one) asking how to run a dBol cycle. Same answer as the million posts on here is what I got.

2 years later, I really wanted to run gear. Same thing, I couldn't pick up a needle and do it myself. By now, I had a new woman. She's very heavy in the medical field and is still in school. I mentioned it to her, her answer; no prob, just get it & I'll shoot it for you


About a year later I felt confident enough to do it myself. Pinning yourself for some is too huge of a step & they don't want to admit it.


Now, I do all of my shots unless she really feels like doing a tough to reach spot for me. Looking back it now - I'm like shit, I could have done this for years.

It's all a mental game

[dk94]

You can take compounds without test, try taking straight deca and see what happens. Your test levels will be that of a 7 year old girl. Say good bye to erections, your balls will retract back into your body, im sure there will be some shrinkage. Primobolan probably wouldnt be as bad, but if some one would run 2-3 bottle of primo a month for a proper dose, whats the problem with running one bottle of test over 3 months to have normal sexual function

[JDBeretta]

So OP asks a question that has been answered approximately 4,365,421 times (on this page alone), gets a straight answer with a link to substantiate the answer, and gets mad about his own ignorance being called out because there are multiple answers already present?

[Chicagotarsier]

LOL I think it is the automated response aspect of it lol. When you get an answering machine do you ever really listen to the message or try again later? Human nature on it as to why.

So OP asks a question that has been answered approximately 4,365,421 times (on this page alone), gets a straight answer with a link to substantiate the answer, and gets mad about his own ignorance being called out because there are multiple answers already present?

[Capebuffalo]

Where did OP go?


Wolfman: Thirty seconds. We went like this, he went like that. I said to Hollywood, "Where'd he go?" Hollywood says, "Where'd who go?"
Hollywood: Yeah, and he's laughing at us, right on the radio, he's laughing at us.
Slider: That was me laughing, dickhead.

[< <Samson> >]

Lmao


Same shit I did 5 years ago - fvcking juicers. I ain't poking myself with shit, fvck this. . . .

[RangerDanger830]

Test? I hate tests, especially short answer tests. I say no to tests of any kind.

[macnerd]

its good to follow your mind but if u have no clue on what your doing, its good to listen to experience people on this subject matter

[fit2bOld]

Here we go again. And a hijack at that.

[Chicagotarsier]

Can it be done? Arnold and all the golden age guys did not have access to it (so it is said and they say). So yes, it can be done without it.

If they did it all over with access to test would they? Seeing how every major BB out there uses test today I would think so.

Austin's link tells you why. I can tell you having zero testosterone sucks. I can tell you the cure for that is a shot of testosterone. Sooner or later you will be shooting testosterone if you use AAs.