Am I ready for my 2nd cycle?

[Coffeehead]

This is my first post here but I'd been a long time lurker. I was hoping to ge some advice from the vets here to whether or not my bloods show I'm ready for a 2nd cycle.

I just finished up my 1st cycle 7 weeks ago and was getting ready to order gear for my 2nd cycle at the end of the month. I just got my bloods returned and the only abnormality showed a slightly elevated LH and LDL. Here are some of the test results that you may find pertinent:

Total Test: 785 ng/dl --> up from 51 ng/dl - mid cycle
(Range 348-1197 ng/dl)

E2: 27.2 pg/ml --> No prior tests
(Range 8.0- 35.0 pg/ml)

FSH: 5.8 mIu/ml --> No prior tests
(Range: 1.5-12.4 mIu/ml)

LH: 8.8 mIu/ml --> No prior tests
(Range: 1.7-8.6 mIu/ml)

HDL: 50 mg/dl --> up from <3 mg/dl - mid cycle
(Range: >39 mg/dl)

LDL: 129 mg/dl --> down from 230 mg/dl - mid cycle
(Range: 0-99 mg/dl)

As you can probably tell from my mid-cycle low test, I did not heed nearly all advice to use a test base as my 1st only cycle. Big mistake. - Strike 1.

Instead, I opted for oral only since I had not yet gotten over my fear of pinning. I went with 5 weeks of T-Bol and Var. Results were pretty amazing, but again I nuked my T levels and really did a number on my cholesterol. Liver values were slightly elevated, but hardly anything to be concerned about (ALT/AST scores were low 50 IU/L)

For my next cycle I'm going with 400-600mg/wk Test-C (unless strongly suggested otherwise) combined with oral t-bol. May opt for 4 weeks of Var at the end of the cycle, but that is TBD. Will have some arimidex on hand to combat any issues with aromatization, and will use both Clomid and Nolva for PCT.

I was curious to see if you guys think my bloods indicate my body is ready for this?

Much thanks for your replies - go easy on my for botching my first cycle with no test. I'm aware that was a mistake, one I don't plan to repeat.

[Nephets]

look into hgc during cycle and I would go with a simple test only cycle and see what that gets ya.

[Coffeehead]

look into hgc during cycle and I would go with a simple test only cycle and see what that gets ya.

Appreciate the insight. Any particular reason you'd suggest HCG over arimidex for test only?

Still hoping for some insight to whether or my body is ready for round 2 - although I'm happy to receive suggestions on how to approach my 2nd cycle as well....

[Nephets]

hcg and arimidex do two different things. hgc during cycle will keep your boys alive and give you a faster recovery. faster recovery equals more keepable gains.

sorry I cant help you on the blood work.

[songdog]

Wat are your stats bro? Ht wt yrs training and wat you are trying to do.And 500mg test is plenty.

[Coffeehead]

Wat are your stats bro? Ht wt yrs training and wat you are trying to do.And 500mg test is plenty.

6'0 - 188 lbs at 12% BF and I'm 30 y/o.

Lifts are as follows (if relevant)

Bench: 295
Squat: 350
DL: 465

Been training for 6+ years, consistently. Looking to build lower body mass since it's been hard for me to come by. Not trying to add too much weight, maybe 5-10 lbs to my lower body and I'll be happy.

Thanks.

hcg and arimidex do two different things. hgc during cycle will keep your boys alive and give you a faster recovery. faster recovery equals more keepable gains.

sorry I cant help you on the blood work.

Thank you. Ill look into HCG further.

[Strongblood]

I strongly advise you to take .25mgs. Arimidex every other day, while cycling 500-600mgs. of Test Cyp. Don't simply have it on hand. You don't want the sides that come with high estrogen. Just my opinion. Good luck and enjoy your cycle!

[Coffeehead]

I strongly advise you to take .25mgs. Arimidex every other day, while cycling 500-600mgs. of Test Cyp. Don't simply have it on hand. You don't want the sides that come with high estrogen. Just my opinion. Good luck and enjoy your cycle!

Appreciate the reply bro! I'll be sure to include it when I make the purchase.

Can any of the vets here let me know if there are any concerns with my bloods, like elevated LH, or if anything else is an indication that I should wait before doing my next cycle?

I was also pretty surprised to see my test levels rebound so quickly to near baseline. I got test at 850 ng/dl prior to my 1st cycle and didn't expect it to be back this quickly. Is that normal? I also got the bloods done around 1pm, so my test likely was lower in the PM than it would have been had I gotten bloods done in the early AM.

[kelkel]

Did you do any form of PCT?

[Coffeehead]

Did you do any form of PCT?

Yessir - four weeks of clomid + Nolvo.

[ScotchGuard02]

To me, you sound like a prime candidate to implement a Test only first cycle. http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

Your blood work looks ok but my gut tells me that 7 weeks is too short between cycles. I think you should give yourself a few more months between cycles. My .02

[kelkel]

I just finished up my 1st cycle 7 weeks ago and was getting ready to order gear for my 2nd cycle at the end of the month. I just got my bloods returned and the only abnormality showed a slightly elevated LH and LDL. Here are some of the test results that you may find pertinent:

Clear things up. You ran a pct so does this mean your BW was pulled three weeks after pct or 7 weeks?

[Coffeehead]

Clear things up. You ran a pct so does this mean your BW was pulled three weeks after pct or 7 weeks?

Absolutely.

From my understanding I am supposed to include both the time on my cycle (5 weeks) with the time of PCT (4 weeks). So to answer your question I'm 7 weeks removed from PCT. By the time I start (after Thanksgiving) I'd be 9 weeks removed - or the total of my previous cycle + PCT.

Thanks kelkel. I know you are highly regarded on these boards so I appreciate your input.

[kelkel]

Coffeehead still not clear to me.

Was the BW you listed above pulled 3 weeks after pct or 7 weeks after pct?

[Coffeehead]

BW was pulled 6 weeks post PCT - so it was last week.

[kelkel]

BW was pulled 6 weeks post PCT - so it was last week.

Ok, perfect. I wanted to be clear as if the BW was pulled to close to the end of pct you could still be hyper-stimulated from serms and show an abnormally elevated LH level. Right now yours is exceptional and hopefully will remain at or near that level.

[Coffeehead]

Perfect - so you're saying I should be good to go for another round in two weeks?

Thanks again!

[kelkel]

Well it appears so. That said, you really don't know if your LH level will naturally hold at that level but know that repetitive, back to back cycles will definitly not help it any in the long run. Just be safe with what you do. Too many guys put the emphasis on the amount of AAS they use as opposed to solid nutrition and training. Don't be one of them.

[Coffeehead]

Thank you Kelkel.

Of course not, I value my health. I'll keep my cycles to a minimum and prioritize my nutrition and training, supplementing occasionally.

Now just need to figure out the best place to get some pins. Will 27g, 1/2in suffice for sub-Q?

[kelkel]

I would not use SQ for cycle purposes. Small amounts for TRT sure, cycle volume absolutely not. You can find pins easily on-line.