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    Athlete.. need mass!!

    Hey guys ive been reading this forum for a month and a half now and just now getting around to posting. I am looking to get bigger without compromising speed for football.

    My stats are 18 years old 6'3 185 around 8% BF
    Lifting for 3 years bench max is 250 squat 300 clean 225
    I need to bulk up I have been taking creatine, protein, Trib,CLA,fish oil and ZMA for the last 6 months, 1 month on the trib and CLA
    I am looking to start my first cycle what do you recommend?

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    Wouldn't recommend you start a cycle at 18, its too young imo. You can make good gains with just a solid diet, creatine and other supps. At 6'3 185lbs you have more room to fill out, whats you're diet looking like?

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    I try to eat alot of chicken and steak good carbs and protein, I take a weight gainer and 5 grams of creatine per day. Overall I eat healthy nothing too bad no saturated fats, fast food etc. Normally i try to have 5 big meals a day and just constantly eat.

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    thats good and all but how many calories?? give me an example of what you eat in a normal day

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    your lifts are not bad at all for being 18 but really your far to young for gear. You have really high natty test levels right now and will make great gains with a well planned diet and workout routine with proper rest.

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    Too young for gear: What percentage of actual HS and college age football stars aren't on? Generally, if you want to compete with juicers, you need to level the playing field. 18 is old enough to make your own ethical and health decisions. I'm not advocating your (or anyone else's use), but anybody who is serious about football, meaning that they want to advance to the next level and play on a name brand college team, needs to figure out a way to go from 185 to 250 real quick.

    PS, Back in my HS gridiron days, Coach used to give dianabol to the freshman and JV squad as readily as he handed out the salt tabs.

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    Sorry bud, but you are WAY too young for a cycle. Take advantage of your naturally high test levels and train naturally. Bumping up your daily cals should help. Your diet is probably too low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldUncle
    Too young for gear: What percentage of actual HS and college age football stars aren't on? Generally, if you want to compete with juicers, you need to level the playing field. 18 is old enough to make your own ethical and health decisions. I'm not advocating your (or anyone else's use), but anybody who is serious about football, meaning that they want to advance to the next level and play on a name brand college team, needs to figure out a way to go from 185 to 250 real quick.

    PS, Back in my HS gridiron days, Coach used to give dianabol to the freshman and JV squad as readily as he handed out the salt tabs.
    The amount of health risks is not worth it. Anyone in highschool should not be running a cycle. It takes years of training and research to plan a proper diet, training ruitine, and cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfiler
    The amount of health risks is not worth it. Anyone in highschool should not be running a cycle. It takes years of training and research to plan a proper diet, training ruitine, and cycle.
    Im not trying to beat a dead horse but for the kid who is thinking about doing the cycle if you can not grow naturally then chances are you will not have good gains on aas and you should not be using anyways because of the health risks.

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    yea you are right about the weight thing because to get to the next level i need about 20 good lbs in about a year right now im not on a cycle because it is to difficult to find and im not sure if i would want to start yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyInTheBank
    yea you are right about the weight thing because to get to the next level i need about 20 good lbs in about a year right now im not on a cycle because it is to difficult to find and im not sure if i would want to start yet...
    yes your lifts are ok....but alot of 18 year olds in my gym have the same and some ALOT more with out gear....honestly try a proper diet for one month and im sure youll gain wiehgt.....just be strict with it

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    You to young to start AAS pls take the advice what everyone is telling you.

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    at your age your natty test is at its highest till you are around 21-22.........
    stay natural till then or you will lose out on the biggest natural growth stage ....................
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldUncle
    Too young for gear: What percentage of actual HS and college age football stars aren't on? Generally, if you want to compete with juicers, you need to level the playing field. 18 is old enough to make your own ethical and health decisions. I'm not advocating your (or anyone else's use), but anybody who is serious about football, meaning that they want to advance to the next level and play on a name brand college team, needs to figure out a way to go from 185 to 250 real quick.

    PS, Back in my HS gridiron days, Coach used to give dianabol to the freshman and JV squad as readily as he handed out the salt tabs.
    Doesn't make it right, nor healthy. From what I've seen at this board, we try to give a more conservative approach to make sure our members (especially the younger ones) follow this path as safetly as possible.

    I'm not sure how old you are, but I know that the "I'm 18" thing didn't work with my parents. Their house, their responsibility, their rules. End of story.

    Anywhooo....

    Money,
    You already got your answer about being too young. But I'm not going to downplay your acomplishments. I compliment you on having a great base...being 6'3", lean, and still having decent lifts is tough. Head over to the diet forum...I'll bet you a bottle of test that the guys over there can put 20 lbs on you in a year.

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    At 6-3 u should be much heavier before u hop on AAS.

    I'm 6-4 and I was able to get to 225 at 8% relativly easy just eating a mediocre diet and taking legal supplements.

    If you want more of an edge perhaps try something like ALpha male or Myogenix.

    Both will help boost your muscle and strength and work naturally. But you will get elevated test levels with some of these supps. have a little nolvadex on hand in case of nipple puffiness would be ideal.

    Stick to natural stuff until your 21. Unless of course you don't mind having a messed up hormone system when your 35+

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    Eat like your bulking,clean...you'll grow!
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