d-BOL ONLY CYCLE! PCT

[zummer]

Im Going To Do A D-bol Only Cycle I Am 18 Years Old.....any Suggestions? I Know You Would Probably Not Reccomend It But Its All I Can Get. I Was Thinking 30 Mg Ed. Does That Sound Right? What About Pct?

[FREAK]

bro 18 way to young

[FREAK]

Im Going To Do A D-bol Only Cycle I Am 18 Years Old.....any Suggestions? I Know You Would Probably Not Reccomend It But Its All I Can Get. I Was Thinking 30 Mg Ed. Does That Sound Right? What About Pct?

what about pct whats ur thoughts

[PureLife07]

4000 healthy calories / ED. I used that at 18 and got good results.

[dupa95]

Use the search button u will find all you need

[FREAK]

4000 healthy calories / ED. I used that at 18 and got good results.

are u kidden what kind of advice is that u dont even know his stats

[zummer]

so your saying if i train hard and get 4000 cals in ed i would out in BIG gains? How do you suggest i get this 4000 cals down in a day?

[Amorphic]

you shouldnt do it for a couple reasons.

1. 18 years old is too young, your endocrine system is working full throttle at your age, steroids could potentially damage your endocrine system for life. you do not want that.

2. dbol only is a poor choice for a cycle, for a variety of reasons, too many for me to even want to bother listing right now. basically, its a known "fact" that most if not all cycles should be stacked with some form of test to keep libido working as well as mood, energy etc.

3 at your age you have not reached your genetic potential, nor am i assuming you have trained hard enough to warrant steroid use.

[dupa95]

zummer
New Member

Join Date: Oct 2007
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test bad
Is it bad to produce more testosterone using supplements as a teenager? Say 16-17 YO? Knowing that in your teens you are producing a lot of testosterone as it is...would it be bad to take a supplement that improves testosterone? Say a supplement such as a prohormone?

[Amorphic]

so your saying if i train hard and get 4000 cals in ed i would out in BIG gains? How do you suggest i get this 4000 cals down in a day?

ignore everything that you've heard in this thread and read what i told you, you WILL regret steroid use.

[longhorn814]

at 18 if you eat 4K cals/day you will get great gains naturally that you will end up keeping..dbol will give you lot of water weight too..you dont need steroids yet, at your age your natural test levels are high enough that with solid diet/training you will grow just fine

[PureLife07]

No just eat as much as possible and keep workin at it. Your only 18 and too young. Your probably going to do it anyways tho right? So since you are 30mg/day. And like rambling said whats your pct like? btw no ramblin im saying thats what i did at 18 and got good results

[shifty_git]

4000 healthy calories / ED. I used that at 18 and got good results.

I think this was meant as EAT properly (an assuming the guy is working out hard) - Plan a propper diet

you shouldnt do it for a couple reasons.

1. 18 years old is too young, your endocrine system is working full throttle at your age, steroids could potentially damage your endocrine system for life. you do not want that.

2. dbol only is a poor choice for a cycle, for a variety of reasons, too many for me to even want to bother listing right now. basically, its a known "fact" that most if not all cycles should be stacked with some form of test to keep libido working as well as mood, energy etc.

3 at your age you have not reached your genetic potential, nor am i assuming you have trained hard enough to warrant steroid use.

This is the correct stance on using aas at your age

ignore everything that you've heard in this thread and read what i told you, you WILL regret steroid use.

Dont ignore the bit about eating properly, but ignore any suggestion of dosages or to even use aas at this stage.

Hit the diet forum,
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6


and hit the workout forum,
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3

[zummer]

NO no no...im open for opinions and glad you guys are willing to help me out my post before saying if i eat 4000 calories a day i was talking about w/out steroids! The reason i am considering AS is because im trying to go D1 in college football I have colleges looking at me and I need to put on size I am 5'11" 160 lbs! Big problem and i dont have much time to put on size with college visits and camps what do you suggest?

[zummer]

zummer
New Member

Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 27

test bad
Is it bad to produce more testosterone using supplements as a teenager? Say 16-17 YO? Knowing that in your teens you are producing a lot of testosterone as it is...would it be bad to take a supplement that improves testosterone? Say a supplement such as a prohormone?

WHATS THE ANSWERS? idk

[shifty_git]

NO no no...im open for opinions and glad you guys are willing to help me out my post before saying if i eat 4000 calories a day i was talking about w/out steroids! The reason i am considering AS is because im trying to go D1 in college football I have colleges looking at me and I need to put on size I am 5'11" 160 lbs! Big problem and i dont have much time to put on size with college visits and camps what do you suggest?

a clean bulking diet, creatine, Noxplode.... and hit the gym hard.

[Amorphic]

a clean bulking diet, creatine, Noxplode.... and hit the gym hard.

truth, there are no shortcuts here, even with aas. if you cant gain weight naturally, you'll never be able to keep the weight on that you gained with aas

[zummer]

alright get the point thanks for all the help

[zummer]

just out of curiousity...what would the side effects be short term and long term. I know everyones different but i was just wondering. And would i be done growing for sure? And what would the other effects be?

[shifty_git]

alright get the point thanks for all the help

hope ya dont think anyone is trying to be a d!ck, just aas arnt something to be taken lightly...

messing up ya own natty hormone system at 18 is summit u will regret for life.

you might see it as a short cut now, but look at it this way...
(this is the non-medical real life version)

u try it now, put on a few pounds, get noticed and ya football career starts off well....

then u stop taking aas... your body now makes minimal amounts of test, u loose size, u loose any chance u had naturally of making ya mark on the game or in many areas of ya life....

summit u think of as a short-cut now could effect the rest of your life bro.

PLUS all the medical reasons

[mattosteel]

dude don't listen to this age crap. Your a grown man and do what u want, you were asking for advice, not a father to tell u what to do. For your question, 30mg ed for how long? after about 30 days your adrogen receptors quit accepting the dbol and doesn't really work good after that. plus, im 260 ish and i still don't go over 40mg ed because i just don't see the benefit of that. so in those four weeks you should put on a good ten pounds but you won't keep alot of it. what i would do is use test of any kind after that and you will continue your gains and put on about 20 pounds or so after the 12 week cycle is over.

[JAY_WD]

dude don't listen to this age crap. Your a grown man and do what u want, you were asking for advice, not a father to tell u what to do. For your question, 30mg ed for how long? after about 30 days your adrogen receptors quit accepting the dbol and doesn't really work good after that. plus, im 260 ish and i still don't go over 40mg ed because i just don't see the benefit of that. so in those four weeks you should put on a good ten pounds but you won't keep alot of it. what i would do is use test of any kind after that and you will continue your gains and put on about 20 pounds or so after the 12 week cycle is over.

What ever you do, DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS GUY

Nothing incorrect with what he is saying, but dude you are 18. Way too young. I know you in a rush, but remember this: "Its not where you start that counts but where you finish!"

[Amorphic]

dude don't listen to this age crap. Your a grown man and do what u want, you were asking for advice, not a father to tell u what to do. For your question, 30mg ed for how long? after about 30 days your adrogen receptors quit accepting the dbol and doesn't really work good after that. plus, im 260 ish and i still don't go over 40mg ed because i just don't see the benefit of that. so in those four weeks you should put on a good ten pounds but you won't keep alot of it. what i would do is use test of any kind after that and you will continue your gains and put on about 20 pounds or so after the 12 week cycle is over.

yeah, we're all a bunch of uptight fathers scolding this guy. last time i checked 18 year old kids arent grown men either.

bad advice

[shifty_git]

dude don't listen to this age crap. Your a grown man and do what u want, you were asking for advice, not a father to tell u what to do. For your question, 30mg ed for how long? after about 30 days your adrogen receptors quit accepting the dbol and doesn't really work good after that. plus, im 260 ish and i still don't go over 40mg ed because i just don't see the benefit of that. so in those four weeks you should put on a good ten pounds but you won't keep alot of it. what i would do is use test of any kind after that and you will continue your gains and put on about 20 pounds or so after the 12 week cycle is over.

grown man?? no no no

Is a GROWING MAN - and doesnt need to f**k up his natty system!

[zummer]

Say i took 20 mg ed for 4 weeks? Would i still get the minimum amount of test produced when i get off? Im just looking to put on about 10 lbs. Then I would be all natural would i be able to put on the size just as well as i could now after taking d-bol 20 mgs ed for 4 weeks?

[Big]

At 5'11" and 160lbs, at your age there is absolutely no reason you couldn't gain 40lbs naturally with proper diet and training. No steroid will compensate for an inadequate diet. If you cycle dbol, aside from any health risks, you will probably gain 10 or 15lbs of water weight, which will leave you after cycle at about the same rate it came.

[zummer]

just one question if i did 20 mg d-bol ed for 4 weeks would i be able to produce the same amount of test that i could before the cycle....can i build the same amount of musccle that i could before the cycle?

[Big]

just one question if i did 20 mg d-bol ed for 4 weeks would i be able to produce the same amount of test that i could before the cycle....can i build the same amount of musccle that i could before the cycle?

well if your concern is whether or not you can have the same capability you had before cycle, then just don't cycle and you will already be there.

[zummer]

well if your concern is whether or not you can have the same capability you had before cycle, then just don't cycle and you will already be there.

ya but the 10 lbs would be nice so would i be able to?

[Big]

ya but the 10 lbs would be nice so would i be able to?

well as I advised in my previous post, you would lose the water weight at the same rate you gained it, so why bother with the potential health risks to retain 10lbs of water for a few weeks? I honestly just don't understand the point.

[Big]

out of curiosity, exactly how many calories do you consume each day, how many meals per day, how much protein and carbs and fat per day?

[zummer]

well as I advised in my previous post, you would lose the water weight at the same rate you gained it, so why bother with the potential health risks to retain 10lbs of water for a few weeks? I honestly just don't understand the point.

college visits...i just recently had an injury...and didnt have the time to put on the size i needed now i need to with very little time so whatever it takes....even if it is water weight to put on some lbs...so is it worth it...its my dream to play at the next level....i would be all natural after this....just need the weight fast! what do you suggest i cant go in at the weight im at now and them be impressed but w/ 10 more lbs they would be impressed even if it is all water weight.

[Big]

Is it worth it? I already answered that, no it's not. Regardless I'm sure you will do it anyway, at your age most don't listen to reason. Good luck, I'm out of this one.

[Brazilian_Juice]

yea bro, dont touch this stuff right now. I am not giving you any advice but hell, if you do Dbol only ur throwing your money in the toilet..

[Amorphic]

college visits...i just recently had an injury...and didnt have the time to put on the size i needed now i need to with very little time so whatever it takes....even if it is water weight to put on some lbs...so is it worth it...its my dream to play at the next level....i would be all natural after this....just need the weight fast! what do you suggest i cant go in at the weight im at now and them be impressed but w/ 10 more lbs they would be impressed even if it is all water weight.

10 pounds of water weight will not impress anyone.

[EasyE]

college visits...i just recently had an injury...and didnt have the time to put on the size i needed now i need to with very little time so whatever it takes....even if it is water weight to put on some lbs...so is it worth it...its my dream to play at the next level....i would be all natural after this....just need the weight fast! what do you suggest i cant go in at the weight im at now and them be impressed but w/ 10 more lbs they would be impressed even if it is all water weight.

Look University recruitment looks at both short and long term. They can spot a kid on Dbol from 10 miles away trust me.

You want to add bulk or appear to do this.

Find a work out routine with lots of power movements.
Do legs about twice every 8 days

Supplements: Some sort of Complex Carb powder, a weight gainer I like cytogainer. Buy some USP labs Anabolic pump and learn how to use it. Lots of guys swear by this product when combined with lots of food. Throw some Creatine in there. Get lots of rest and if you must get something like ActivaTe Xtreme I found it worked for me very well.

Do all this and you might be get 2-3 lbs solid lean gains. But you'll appear much bigger if thats what you are looking for.

[SnaX]

Im Going To Do A D-bol Only Cycle I Am 18 Years Old.....any Suggestions? I Know You Would Probably Not Reccomend It But Its All I Can Get. I Was Thinking 30 Mg Ed. Does That Sound Right? What About Pct?

None of us will recommend it because:

1. Dbol only is a no go in many peoples' books. (If you can't get anything else, don't waste your money on dbol only)

2. 18 years of age is too young to be using AAS.

Patience is the key to success.

Whatever it is you are after, keeping a cool, calm head will be the best and HEALTHIEST choice for you.

You are always welcome to read up to better educate yourself!

KNOWLEDGE is what will take you to the top.

Peace

[Garnelek]

college visits...i just recently had an injury...and didnt have the time to put on the size i needed now i need to with very little time so whatever it takes....even if it is water weight to put on some lbs...so is it worth it...its my dream to play at the next level....i would be all natural after this....just need the weight fast! what do you suggest i cant go in at the weight im at now and them be impressed but w/ 10 more lbs they would be impressed even if it is all water weight.

Dude listen,u have a few weeks and ur concern is weight even if its water right?then fat is ok too right?Do this:eat 5-6 meals from which 2 are big and fatty like big mac with a lot of mayo.If u don't care about what ur extra weight looks like i guarantee that by doing this u will add more than 10 pounds with a lot less health risk and in a lot less time u have!

[kick6]

Zummer: I think you're putting way to much focus on the scale for college visits. If 10 lbs is the only thing thats gonna make the difference between you going D1, just hang a 10lb weight from your dong when you do your weigh-in.


Yes I'm being sarcastic. If you can play......you can play and 10 lbs on a scale isn't going to make or break you.


Also, the risk isn't worth the reward. If you get caught, no NCAA team (D1, D2 OR D3) is going to want you anywhere near their athletic program.