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    Can I hand squeeze a Sachet into a Vial???

    I’m reading about all these long drawn out and difficult ways to get the Test oil out of the sachet.
    Can’t I just rub alcohol on the sachet and on a blade cut a tiny pc of the corner and carefully squeeze into a vial?


    Also the web store I buy my aas from came recommended by this website.
    They sent me 3 sachet marked with code "04". There are 2 places on the site that say different things about code 04. 1 spot says it’s Test Cyp 200ML the other says Test Cyp 250ML???
    Anyone with this dilemma?
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    many ways to transfer,,,just try to keep it sterile and clean.

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    you should be transferring it to a sealed, sterile vial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    you should be transferring it to a sealed, sterile vial.
    yeah, that's what i was gonna say make sure it's all sterile. you can use the stuff that you use to sterilise babies bottles to steri your vials and lids(and your blade). just buy at the supermarket. you can also suck the oil out of the sachet with a syringe and then just squirt it into the vial. make sure you discard the needle though. the site that i buy from has their enth at 250/ml, cyp at 200/ml and prop at 100. not sure if that helps you though. also you know that you can store your oil in your syringe yeah? you suck the oil out, discard that needle, shoot what you want, then discard that needle. then you store the syringe in a cool dark place until your next shot. then when you are ready for next shot wipe the end of the syringe with a swab and attach a fresh needle. i haven't used sachets yet but that's how i will be doing it in a couple of weeks. you can wait fo me to be the guinea pig and i'll let you know if you like.
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    you cant just squeeze that into a jar bro. personally i would use a 10cc syringe and a 18gauge needle and draw the entire content into the syringe then put a whatman filter on and filter it into a STERIL vial

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    Quote Originally Posted by pietro75 View Post
    you cant just squeeze that into a jar bro. personally i would use a 10cc syringe and a 18gauge needle and draw the entire content into the syringe then put a whatman filter on and filter it into a STERIL vial
    what's a whatman filter? never heard of that....

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    you can probably get it from lion

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    Quote Originally Posted by pietro75 View Post
    you cant just squeeze that into a jar bro. personally i would use a 10cc syringe and a 18gauge needle and draw the entire content into the syringe then put a whatman filter on and filter it into a STERIL vial
    I Did it already. Let's see I guess.

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    did what? hopefully you didnt squeeze it into a jar because that would be unsteril and you would be asking for an infection. if your talking about the filter and steril vial then you'll be fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbonez19 View Post
    what's a whatman filter? never heard of that....
    It's a filter that attaches between the needle and the syringe so as to filter the compound as it passes through. Don't attempt to filter while drawing though, draw the compound into the syringe, attach a filter and a fresh pin, then filter it into a new vial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the fly View Post
    I Did it already. Let's see I guess.
    i dunno bud, if it was only 3ml i would definitely chuck it.

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    Lol your not gonnar believe what i did with my sachets. i had no vials, so i would poor all the contents from the sachet into a lid of like some drink bottle cap than used syringes to extract it out of that in open air. btw i was very hygenic about this so i made sure everything was clean the area i was doing it in, washd the bottle cap with hot water, washed my hands, made sure not to breath anywhere near the juice while i was doing this etc. I did this alot of times and had no bad juice or got any infections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hephens View Post
    Lol your not gonnar believe what i did with my sachets. i had no vials, so i would poor all the contents from the sachet into a lid of like some drink bottle cap than used syringes to extract it out of that in open air. btw i was very hygenic about this so i made sure everything was clean the area i was doing it in, washd the bottle cap with hot water, washed my hands, made sure not to breath anywhere near the juice while i was doing this etc. I did this alot of times and had no bad juice or got any infections.
    I hate to tell you but washing the bottle cap in hot water is not going to sterilize it, it will actually produce more bacteria, you have been very lucky bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by samcam View Post
    I hate to tell you but washing the bottle cap in hot water is not going to sterilize it, it will actually produce more bacteria, you have been very lucky bro!
    f...in' A. some bacteria are not even killed by boiling water. i would not do that again if i were you bro. that would be tempting fate. don't want to end up with an abcess. whew, you were indeed lucky, no doubt you injected bacteria. just luckily not any real nasty ones.

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    wow thats insane. you got really lucky bro because you can end up with an abcess, loss of bodypart or death. injecting bacteria into your body is something you definatly dont want to do and i would throw away 100ml of gear before i would use it if it was unsteril

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    just search for glass vials on google...lots of sources, there like a couple bucks each..i poke the satchel draw and put it into the vials...can only store in the syringe for like a few days...usaually says that on the site you order from.

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    i had good clean sachets... didnt filter (although i do recommend it) i just did what big says (minus the filter) and drew it into a 10ml syringe, 18 guage needle, and put it in a sterile SEALED vial. Dont forget to use a second pin for air to escape! Usually you get a bit more out the sachet than you paid for

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    i would always filter those things. i just dont trust something that comes in a packet like that if i dont filter it myself

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    Here's what I did.
    I sterilized my counter top 3-4 x with 91 % isopropyl alcohol. Then I sterilized the outside of an unopened but finished vial of masteron from a few months ago.
    I took out the sachet and sterilized the entire outside of that as well. I cleaned and sterilized a sharp blade and nipped he corner off the sachet, removed the rubber top off the vial and poured the droppelets due to the small hole into the vial the I folded the sachet in half making a triangle and pinched out the test in the vial.
    Of course my hands had been washed and doused in alcohol as well.
    I placed the stopper back on and swabbed the vial again. and once I started to draw the test the vacuum created a tight seal. Then I injected.

    Now tell me how drawing out of a small hole , sliding in and out- not by removing the needle but simply because its never staying exactly in the same amount the whole time. Tell me that's more sterile?

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    thats not steril bro. air hit it and that makes it unsteril. i personally would bake it and filter it

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    Quote Originally Posted by pietro75 View Post
    thats not steril bro. air hit it and that makes it unsteril. i personally would bake it and filter it
    Bake it??? What's that? Heating it up won't ruin the test? How is it done?
    And then you mean baking it in the vial? Then drawing it out, placing a filter and spitting it back into a fresh vial?

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    just add 1% BA and it will be sterile guys. otherwise u can get vials through g e t p i n z . c o m (sterile) ...just use a pin and transfer dont think its rocket science!

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    i just have to comment kuz every time i see this thread title.. it makes me laff... kuz i keep thinkin.. you'd have to be a pretty big bad ass to squeeze a satchet through a sealed sterile vial topper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa View Post
    i just have to comment kuz every time i see this thread title.. it makes me laff... kuz i keep thinkin.. you'd have to be a pretty big bad ass to squeeze a satchet through a sealed sterile vial topper.
    lmfao.....u funny man today Tai! hahahaha!!

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    i was alot funnier 10k posts ago.. i kinda ran outta witty things to say

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa View Post
    i was alot funnier 10k posts ago.. i kinda ran outta witty things to say
    hahah i guess ur right. i only been on here for a bit though , so they are new to me. i still like to laugh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pietro75 View Post
    thats not steril bro. air hit it and that makes it unsteril. i personally would bake it and filter it
    splitting hairs IMO....air gets into every vial. Hell I almost always draw up a cc of air and inject it into the vial before drawing up a cc of gear.

    The way he did it was fine, and most likely more sterile than what half of the UG's were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbonez19 View Post
    yeah, that's what i was gonna say make sure it's all sterile. you can use the stuff that you use to sterilise babies bottles to steri your vials and lids(and your blade). just buy at the supermarket. you can also suck the oil out of the sachet with a syringe and then just squirt it into the vial. make sure you discard the needle though. the site that i buy from has their enth at 250/ml, cyp at 200/ml and prop at 100. not sure if that helps you though. also you know that you can store your oil in your syringe yeah? you suck the oil out, discard that needle, shoot what you want, then discard that needle. then you store the syringe in a cool dark place until your next shot. then when you are ready for next shot wipe the end of the syringe with a swab and attach a fresh needle. i haven't used sachets yet but that's how i will be doing it in a couple of weeks. you can wait fo me to be the guinea pig and i'll let you know if you like.
    This post amazes me. Somebody who is re-using syringes is giving advise on sterilization.

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    holy crap i didnt even catch that. syringes are so freaking cheap that nobody should ever reuse them

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    people like this are why AAS have a bad rep

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    so u reused an old vial that already had shit in it? dude it takes like 3 mins to suck stuff out of sachet with 18gu and its lot more sterile damn u better filter that shit into clean vial and why would u get on here and ask if its ok to do it then go oh well i already did it?seriously r u that stupid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hephens View Post
    Lol your not gonnar believe what i did with my sachets. i had no vials, so i would poor all the contents from the sachet into a lid of like some drink bottle cap than used syringes to extract it out of that in open air. btw i was very hygenic about this so i made sure everything was clean the area i was doing it in, washd the bottle cap with hot water, washed my hands, made sure not to breath anywhere near the juice while i was doing this etc. I did this alot of times and had no bad juice or got any infections.
    why would you pour the sachets into a bottle cap and draw it from there, instead of just piercing the sachet with the needle and drawing it straight from the sachet then injecting it into a new sealed sterile vial?

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    Cause 1 i didnt have any vials and 2 i already tried extracting it from the sachet but it got messy and i new i wouldnt get every bit out aswel.

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    Ok. So there's conflicting opinions.

    Still interested in what's BAKING is.
    Also would like to know: if I did have an infection how long would it take for symptoms to appear?
    What symptoms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the fly View Post
    Ok. So there's conflicting opinions.

    Still interested in what's BAKING is.
    Also would like to know: if I did have an infection how long would it take for symptoms to appear?
    What symptoms?
    To clear up any confusion....did you do it the best way?...No....Will you be fine Yes. If you did it the way you stated. You will be fine. No matter how sterile you made the transfer, you could still get an infection from it, and it is good to know how to handle it if you do get one. You can keep some antibiotics on hand, and some sources even sell the more commonly used antibiotics for injection infections. I have never not once had any type of infection and I put air in every one of my vials. The common answer is to add some BA or bake it. While this will do no harm to the gear (except making it more painful or turning it darker) it also does not change the mixture form bacteriostatic to bactericidal. Bactericidal meaning bacteria-killing and bacteriolstatic bacteria-inhibiting. The only way for you to make sure your gear is truly sterile is to filter it yourself or to auto-clave it. I would bet that nobody here has an auto-clave to sterilize gear unless they have one beacuse they are a doctor, dentist, or a tattoo artist/body piercer. And nobody is wasting 2.5cc of gear to filter it. Think about the precautions we take, we switch needles after drawing before shooting...when was the last time a doctor did that for you? In real world applications....you took more precautions than most UGL's did to insure your gear was as sterile as possible.

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    What is Baking???

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    Quote Originally Posted by damiongage View Post
    To clear up any confusion....did you do it the best way?...No....Will you be fine Yes. If you did it the way you stated. You will be fine. No matter how sterile you made the transfer, you could still get an infection from it, and it is good to know how to handle it if you do get one. You can keep some antibiotics on hand, and some sources even sell the more commonly used antibiotics for injection infections. I have never not once had any type of infection and I put air in every one of my vials. The common answer is to add some BA or bake it. While this will do no harm to the gear (except making it more painful or turning it darker) it also does not change the mixture form bacteriostatic to bactericidal. Bactericidal meaning bacteria-killing and bacteriolstatic bacteria-inhibiting. The only way for you to make sure your gear is truly sterile is to filter it yourself or to auto-clave it. I would bet that nobody here has an auto-clave to sterilize gear unless they have one beacuse they are a doctor, dentist, or a tattoo artist/body piercer. And nobody is wasting 2.5cc of gear to filter it. Think about the precautions we take, we switch needles after drawing before shooting...when was the last time a doctor did that for you? In real world applications....you took more precautions than most UGL's did to insure your gear was as sterile as possible.
    Haha, I have access to an auto-clave machine though it isnt mine. Those things end up chewing through the metal instruments that you are steralizing with it, and then they have to be replaced. Id hate to think what it would do to my gear if it can corode metal, lol.

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    i just keep my gear in condoms...works pretty good

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    Quote Originally Posted by damiongage View Post
    This post amazes me. Somebody who is re-using syringes is giving advise on sterilization.
    i know i read that and i was like oh boy..... good advice. . i am just glad someone else pointed it out.

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