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    "Pastor who McCain praised said America's historic mission was to 'destroy' Islam"

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    Mother Jones' David Corn has discovered a 2005 sermon in which a fundamentalist pastor Sen. John McCain has praised and campaigned with called Islam "the greatest religious enemy of our civilization and the world," and that the mission of America was to see "this false religion destroyed."

    "In this taped sermon currently sold by his megachurch, the Reverend Rod Parsley reiterates and amplifies harsh and derogatory comments about Islam he made in his book, Silent No More, published the same year he delivered these remarks. Meanwhile, McCain has stuck to his stance of not criticizing Parsley, an important political ally in a crucial swing state," Corn writes.

    "In March 2008--two weeks after McCain appeared with Parsley at a Cincinnati campaign rally, hailing him as "one of the truly great leaders in America, a moral compass, a spiritual guide"--Mother Jones reported that Parsley had urged Christians to wage a "war" to eradicate Islam in his 2005 book," Corn adds. "McCain's campaign refused to respond to questions about Parsley, and the presumptive Republican presidential nominee declined to denounce Parsley's anti-Islam remarks or renounce his endorsement. At a time when Barack Obama was mired in a searing controversy involving Reverend Jeremiah Wright, McCain escaped any trouble for his political alliance with Parsley, who leads the World Harvest Church, a supersized Pentecostal institution in Columbus, Ohio. Parsley, whose sermons are broadcast around the world, has been credited with helping George W. Bush win Ohio in 2004 by registering social conservatives and encouraging them to vote. McCain certainly would like to see Parsley do the same for him--which could explain his reluctance to do any harm to his relationship with this anti-Islam extremist."

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    wow this thread has been up for over 6hrs and no one is screaming about how vile and evil this guy is and how McCain is equally as evil for associating with the guy...

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    Probably because there aren't pictures of the two of them together looking like fraternity brothers.

    Probably because there isn't a 20 year history between them and McCain didn't refer to this guy as his own personal spiritual guide.

    Probably because McCain didn't give the guy a position on his campaign.

    Most likely because white people hate black people.

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    Gee, I'd be happy to be the one to destroy Islam. I'd like to destroy Christianity, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tock View Post
    Gee, I'd be happy to be the one to destroy Islam. I'd like to destroy Christianity, too.
    Why stop there? Every religion, in present day form, clearly has run its course and only serves to keep people apart these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Act of God View Post
    Probably because there aren't pictures of the two of them together looking like fraternity brothers.

    Probably because there isn't a 20 year history between them and McCain didn't refer to this guy as his own personal spiritual guide.

    Probably because McCain didn't give the guy a position on his campaign.

    Most likely because white people hate black people.
    Did you click the link? There is a video embedded. Not much but nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    wow this thread has been up for over 6hrs and no one is screaming about how vile and evil this guy is and how McCain is equally as evil for associating with the guy...
    wow this thread has been up for over 12hrs and BgMc is not screaming about how this guy statments were taken out of context...

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    KFrost, please point out in any thread where I said Wrights comments were taken out of context?

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    McCain and Obama are both TERRIBLE candidates...Not to mention, religion should have absolutely no place in politics.... NONE...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather View Post
    McCain and Obama are both TERRIBLE candidates...Not to mention, religion should have absolutely no place in politics.... NONE...
    Sadly religion will always interfere in politics, that's why Stem Cell research hasnt got the full go ahead in the UK yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Act of God View Post
    Why stop there? Every religion, in present day form, clearly has run its course and only serves to keep people apart these days.
    Amen and Hallelujah to the brother !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Act of God View Post
    Probably because there aren't pictures of the two of them together looking like fraternity brothers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    KFrost, please point out in any thread where I said Wrights comments were taken out of context?
    alright, alright I just reviewed the wrights threads and have to admit you did not say his comments were out of context although the "garlic noses" was close, you said it was misunderstood. So I am sorry(more like sorry I couldn't prove you wrong). Anyway you are a jerk because you caused me to waste a good 20minutes reading your threads! I did learn that you are half white though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E View Post
    Yeah thats the one. The guy is somewhat creepy in all honesty. Reminds me of Ahmadinejad for some reason.

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    I have a feeling we're gonna see a lot more shit come out about Mccain. I mean a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kfrost06 View Post
    alright, alright I just reviewed the wrights threads and have to admit you did not say his comments were out of context although the "garlic noses" was close, you said it was misunderstood. So I am sorry(more like sorry I couldn't prove you wrong). Anyway you are a jerk because you caused me to waste a good 20minutes reading your threads! I did learn that you are half white though.
    Your welcome!!!!! Hahahahaha!

    Yeah, I'm ½ white. But you would never know by looking at me. Both my parents are half white. So my perspective on race is skewed a bit because I'm biracial and the fact I am not perceived as such.

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    the last time mcshit ran he made some derogatory comments about the religious right and he was panned by a major portion of the republican party as a result, so it comes as no big surprise hes being a typical slimy politician and kissing up to to religious zealots in this election. So he is guilty of being two-faced, a whole other deal than Obama who was actually a devout follower of that racist Jeremy Wright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E View Post
    GREAT FIND CARLOS! Now I'm eager to hear additional excuses for McCain and his association with this and other wackos.

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    They accept endorsements from all kinds of people, good and bad. It's the nature of the business. The 20 year history between Wright and Obama is a different thing all together.

    You think Obama really wants Ted Kennedy's endorsement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather View Post
    McCain and Obama are both TERRIBLE candidates...Not to mention, religion should have absolutely no place in politics.... NONE...
    not to hijack the thread or anything, but I've noticed you always chime in on these threads bashing both Obama and McCain. I know you are a Ron Paul supporter but since he won't be the nominee and you don't like the other two, who are you supporting (if any) and why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    not to hijack the thread or anything, but I've noticed you always chime in on these threads bashing both Obama and McCain. I know you are a Ron Paul supporter but since he won't be the nominee and you don't like the other two, who are you supporting (if any) and why?
    Can't you tell? He's voting for Hillary.
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    The question is not weather candidates pander to wackos..the question is why does the US media make such a big deal about Obamas association with Wright-talking about it incesently day after day, while this Parcely guy is swept under the rug, to the point where the McCain campaign can just blow it off and not even respond to the issue. BTW the non-US based english speaking news media outlets (BBC, DW, Aljazeers English, Australian Channel) didn't really talk about wright at all, or only to report that there was a controvercy once the US channels groussed about it for a week.

    Oh wait a second.. i stand corrected, after reviewing the link that carlos offered I found that kieth oberlman at msnbc did in fact mention the parcely issue, but obviouly it was not talked about as much as wright..possibly because it was the hillary clinton campaign that first used this willie horton tactic to attack obama in the first place..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcaYNSZlnWY&feature=related
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    "Pastor who McCain praised said America's historic mission was to 'destroy' Islam"



    And thats a problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack View Post
    "Pastor who McCain praised said America's historic mission was to 'destroy' Islam"



    And thats a problem?
    You'd have a fit if he said destroy Christians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eliteforce View Post
    The question is not weather candidates pander to wackos..the question is why does the US media make such a big deal about Obamas association with Wright-talking about it incesently day after day, while this Parcely guy is swept under the rug, to the point where the McCain campaign can just blow it off and not even respond to the issue. BTW the non-US based english speaking news media outlets (BBC, DW, Aljazeers English, Australian Channel) didn't really talk about wright at all, or only to report that there was a controvercy once the US channels groussed about it for a week.

    Oh wait a second.. i stand corrected, after reviewing the link that carlos offered I found that kieth oberlman at msnbc did in fact mention the parcely issue, but obviouly it was not talked about as much as wright..possibly because it was the hillary clinton campaign that first used this willie horton tactic to attack obama in the first place..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcaYN...eature=related
    the difference is SIMPLE, Obama was a patron at Jeremy Wright's racist church for 20 YEARS, McCain simply accepted endorsements from a variety of big time 'ministers'. Do a little research and find where McCain INSULTED the religious right in the last election. Republicans don't win any election without support of the religious right. Not sure why people keep proliferating this idea, its really stupid, theres no comparison.

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    Anyone that makes a comment like that, calling for the destruction of any religion or people is preaching hate not Christiananity. However, like it or not this country was built on a foundaton of Judea-Christian principles. Islamist have been very vocal in the calls for the destruction of this coutry including hijacking and crashing planes into buildings and such actions garnish a responce, some justifiable and some that go to far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zartan View Post
    the difference is SIMPLE, Obama was a patron at Jeremy Wright's racist church for 20 YEARS, McCain simply accepted endorsements from a variety of big time 'ministers'. Do a little research and find where McCain INSULTED the religious right in the last election. Republicans don't win any election without support of the religious right. Not sure why people keep proliferating this idea, its really stupid, theres no comparison.
    good post and well put

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    Quote Originally Posted by zartan View Post
    the difference is SIMPLE, Obama was a patron at Jeremy Wright's racist church for 20 YEARS
    I'll bet Obama attended church as regularly as most other people do . . . at Easter and Xmas . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tock View Post
    I'll bet Obama attended church as regularly as most other people do . . . at Easter and Xmas . . .
    If you're betting Obama wasn't aware of the racist nature of his church, you'd be betting wrong. He had a personal relationship with Jeremy Wright, who married him, and baptized his children. 'Obama has described Wright as a sounding board and mentor. Wright is one of the first people Obama thanked after his election to the Senate in 2004. Obama consulted Wright before deciding to run for president. The title of Obama’s bestseller “The Audacity of Hope” comes from one of Wright’s sermons. Obama’s “Yes We Can!” slogan is one of Wright’s exhortations.' When Obama claims he had no knowledge of Wright's inflammatory racist nature, he LIES, just like any other politician. Theres no way he was associated with that ridiculous 'church' for so long and didn't hear any of the BS spewing out of ole Jeremy Wright, as this was not an occasional occurrence. Wright publicized all kinds of racist propaganda on his website, in his magazine the Trumpet, and on church news letters. They gave a lifetime achievement award to Farrakhan! You don't think Obama knew about that?
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    Speaking of spiritual advisers...

    Rev. Kirbyjon Caldwell has often described as a "spritual advisor" to George W. Bush over the last eight years, and he officiated at Jenna Bush's wedding this past weekend in Crawford. Oh, and by the way, he's an outspoken supporter of Barack Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E View Post
    Speaking of spiritual advisers...

    Rev. Kirbyjon Caldwell has often described as a "spritual advisor" to George W. Bush over the last eight years, and he officiated at Jenna Bush's wedding this past weekend in Crawford. Oh, and by the way, he's an outspoken supporter of Barack Obama.
    another mark against Obama

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    Quote Originally Posted by zartan View Post
    the difference is SIMPLE, Obama was a patron at Jeremy Wright's racist church for 20 YEARS, McCain simply accepted endorsements from a variety of big time 'ministers'. Do a little research and find where McCain INSULTED the religious right in the last election. Republicans don't win any election without support of the religious right. Not sure why people keep proliferating this idea, its really stupid, theres no comparison.
    +5000

    I swear to god some people here are mentally challenged and lack basic reading comprehension and logical skills.

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    Strange how people haven't mentioned the fact (or maybe they are too mentally challenged to do 'extensive' research), that Trinity Baptist Church is a predominantly white church with only 3 services a week presided over by and attended by a majority of African Americans. But of course that doesn't matter to people who continuously try to convine themselves that racism no longer exists.

    Anyone who believes Obama is a racist and/or subscribes to Wright's imflammatory rhetoric needs to have his/her head examined. This is a man who is ½ white and who still enjoys a close relationship to the white side of his family (especially considering he doesn't really know his father's side of the family because they all live in Africa).

    Of course everyone wants to use the 20 yr thing and the fact that he married him and baptised his kids. Well how many of us truly have a 'relationship' with the guy who married us or baptized our children. When I got married and when my children were baptized, I was looking for whomever was available. I was married my a drunk womanizer, I guess that makes me one too! And, for that matter, lets delve into every politicians supposed racists affiliations. I want Hannity to do a story on anyone John McCain knows who has used the N-word. Or anyone he knows who has told a racially insensitive or sexist joke. This shit is insane! The only reason why people want to focus on bullshit like this is because this man is closer to the presidency than anyone expected and the true feelings of race is coming out in this country. Welcome to white America's 'OH SHIT' moment!

    Notice the polling that indicate that the whites who support Obama have no issue with his "affiliation" with Wright. Its the one's who are afraid to admit their prejudice, that have made the biggest stink about Rev. Wright.

    Attack the man on the issues, if not, be fair and give McCain's 'spiritual advisor' the same scrutiny. Lets face it, both Obama and McCain chose these guys out of political expediency. They both made bad choices in their affiliations, it just seems the public seems to focus on the "black" candidate. Why is that? HHHHMMMMMMm can't be racism, since that no longer exists, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    Strange how people haven't mentioned the fact (or maybe they are too mentally challenged to do 'extensive' research), that Trinity Baptist Church is a predominantly white church with only 3 services a week presided over by and attended by a majority of African Americans. But of course that doesn't matter to people who continuously try to convine themselves that racism no longer exists.

    Anyone who believes Obama is a racist and/or subscribes to Wright's imflammatory rhetoric needs to have his/her head examined. This is a man who is ½ white and who still enjoys a close relationship to the white side of his family (especially considering he doesn't really know his father's side of the family because they all live in Africa).

    Of course everyone wants to use the 20 yr thing and the fact that he married him and baptised his kids. Well how many of us truly have a 'relationship' with the guy who married us or baptized our children. When I got married and when my children were baptized, I was looking for whomever was available. I was married my a drunk womanizer, I guess that makes me one too! And, for that matter, lets delve into every politicians supposed racists affiliations. I want Hannity to do a story on anyone John McCain knows who has used the N-word. Or anyone he knows who has told a racially insensitive or sexist joke. This shit is insane! The only reason why people want to focus on bullshit like this is because this man is closer to the presidency than anyone expected and the true feelings of race is coming out in this country. Welcome to white America's 'OH SHIT' moment!

    Notice the polling that indicate that the whites who support Obama have no issue with his "affiliation" with Wright. Its the one's who are afraid to admit their prejudice, that have made the biggest stink about Rev. Wright.

    Attack the man on the issues, if not, be fair and give McCain's 'spiritual advisor' the same scrutiny. Lets face it, both Obama and McCain chose these guys out of political expediency. They both made bad choices in their affiliations, it just seems the public seems to focus on the "black" candidate. Why is that? HHHHMMMMMMm can't be racism, since that no longer exists, right?
    If you look at the exit polls in predominately White Indiana, Rev. Wright was not an issue. The media made it an issue. Democrats didn't care. The only people who care are people who would not vote for him anyway.

    Take a look at this poll. McCain's association with Bush' is more of a negative then Rev. Wright was for Obama.


    The May 1-3 poll finds 38% of likely voters saying McCain's association with Bush makes them less likely to vote for McCain, while 33% say Obama's association with Wright diminishes their likelihood of voting for Obama. The Bush-McCain relationship does have more upside than the Obama-Wright association, though, as 7% say they are more likely to vote for McCain because of his association with Bush, while only 1% say they are more likely to vote for Obama because of his association with Wright.

    Importantly, a majority of voters in both questions say the personal association will not affect their vote either way.
    Again the people who care would not vote for him anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    Strange how people haven't mentioned the fact (or maybe they are too mentally challenged to do 'extensive' research), that Trinity Baptist Church is a predominantly white church with only 3 services a week presided over by and attended by a majority of African Americans. But of course that doesn't matter to people who continuously try to convine themselves that racism no longer exists.

    Anyone who believes Obama is a racist and/or subscribes to Wright's imflammatory rhetoric needs to have his/her head examined. This is a man who is ½ white and who still enjoys a close relationship to the white side of his family (especially considering he doesn't really know his father's side of the family because they all live in Africa).

    Of course everyone wants to use the 20 yr thing and the fact that he married him and baptised his kids. Well how many of us truly have a 'relationship' with the guy who married us or baptized our children. When I got married and when my children were baptized, I was looking for whomever was available. I was married my a drunk womanizer, I guess that makes me one too! And, for that matter, lets delve into every politicians supposed racists affiliations. I want Hannity to do a story on anyone John McCain knows who has used the N-word. Or anyone he knows who has told a racially insensitive or sexist joke. This shit is insane! The only reason why people want to focus on bullshit like this is because this man is closer to the presidency than anyone expected and the true feelings of race is coming out in this country. Welcome to white America's 'OH SHIT' moment!

    Notice the polling that indicate that the whites who support Obama have no issue with his "affiliation" with Wright. Its the one's who are afraid to admit their prejudice, that have made the biggest stink about Rev. Wright.

    Attack the man on the issues, if not, be fair and give McCain's 'spiritual advisor' the same scrutiny. Lets face it, both Obama and McCain chose these guys out of political expediency. They both made bad choices in their affiliations, it just seems the public seems to focus on the "black" candidate. Why is that? HHHHMMMMMMm can't be racism, since that no longer exists, right?
    Wow, where to start ad-man?

    "lets face it, both Obama and McCain chose these guys out of political expediency." - This is simply a horrible analogy. Obama chose wright longggg before he was involved in politics. Obama chose to have a personal relationship with his pastor and likened him to a family member. "Uncle" was the therm Obama used, not the media. McCain is historically an enemy and critic of the religious right and only saddled up to religious types for THIS election. Slight difference there...what do I know though, I can barely see past my garlic nose. How are those watermelon lips, by the way? (oh noes....that was racist!)

    I find it utterly amazing that while you remain fixated on how evil and racist white people are you continually ignore, apologize for, and accept black racism. It takes two to tango my friend, it takes two...

    This is a man who is ½ white and who still enjoys a close relationship to the white side of his family - Except Barack enjoys pulling in 90% of the black vote (which I'm sure is just on the issues, naturally), identifies himself as a black man, goes to a militant black preacher and marries a typical america hating black woman who's had every opportunity possible in this country. Yes, America is so mean you got to go to the best schools in the world and your husband is making a serious run for president. Horrible country this is. Additionally, Barack is so close to his white side that he has no problem calling his white grandmother "typical" in that she is racist and bigoted. What love he has. Where's his black daddy again? Maybe I'll ask Bill Cosby...

    Notice the polling that indicate that the whites who support Obama have no issue with his "affiliation" with Wright. - Whites who support Obama are either full of white guilt, too scared of the PC police not to vote for a black guy, Socialists/Marxists or dummies of the MSM. On the issues alone Obama is a horrible candidate and if he was white you wouldn't even know his name.

    Again, throughout your entire post you downplay the relationship between BO and his pastor. Go read Obama's own words about Wright. Go read The Audacity of Hope and see what that sermon was about (white people controlling the world). Go research how Obama always made sure Wright was around and consulted him before any major career decisions. Did you consult your preacher when you decided to stop playing football and go into marketing? Your refusal to even see the truth makes your arguments laughable and I don't find it shocking that the two biggest Obama supporters here are....black guys. Shocking, I know...but I'm sure it is all about the issues and nothing else.

    I can't wait to hear your excuse for Obama's relationship with the unapologetic domestic terrorist. That should be fun.
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    Your playing with words here when you describe Wright and his church as 'racist', this is someone who is accused of going to far when criticizing America's past policies, misrepresenting what America stands for, and demagoging for example:

    "God Damn America.." for it's decision to drop a nuclear bomb on Japan
    or blaming Amerca's predominently white aristocracy for the ills of America's African American community, or slamming America and Israel for supporting South Africa's Aphartied regime in the 70's and 80's. America's "neo-imperialist" policies like Iraq, etc. Some of the comments attributed to him are 3rd person and cannot be confirmed..lets stick to only comments made on the you-tube video or on some other tape!

    ALSO, America was not "built on a foundaton of Judea-Christian principles" this is a myth, there were almost no Jews in America in the 16-1800's..and Judism is much closer to Islam theologically than christianity..there is no "judeo-christian" principle that isn't also an "christian islamic jewish principle".. we are talking about the 3 Monotheistic religions here..the rest is in interpretations..

    what you are talking about is racial, that American Jews are caucasian white people from europe and muslims are dark skinned people, thats no principal..

    The conflict in the ME ofcource is mostly the result of Zionism, which is predominently white skinned european and america jews going over there and pushing out the indiginous dark-skinned arab population, and then what we see today which is an aphartied state, aphartied being an extreme form of segregation; segregation is a policy that caused so much damage to America's black population..

    Racism is policies, particularly policies of racial exclusion, it is not just demagoging..

    also watch "The Iron Wall" on Youtube.. this is a good activist video on Israels west bank barriers and jewish only roads..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSPatKNo-3Q


    Quote Originally Posted by zartan View Post
    the difference is SIMPLE, Obama was a patron at Jeremy Wright's racist church for 20 YEARS, McCain simply accepted endorsements from a variety of big time 'ministers'. Do a little research and find where McCain INSULTED the religious right in the last election. Republicans don't win any election without support of the religious right. Not sure why people keep proliferating this idea, its really stupid, theres no comparison.
    Anyone that makes a comment like that, calling for the destruction of any religion or people is preaching hate not Christiananity. However, like it or not this country was built on a foundaton of Judea-Christian principles. Islamist have been very vocal in the calls for the destruction of this coutry including hijacking and crashing planes into buildings and such actions garnish a responce, some justifiable and some that go to far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eliteforce View Post
    The conflict in the ME ofcource is mostly the result of Zionism, which is predominently white skinned european and america jews going over there and pushing out the indiginous dark-skinned arab population,
    100% agree with you there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    that Trinity Baptist Church is a predominantly white church with only 3 services a week presided over by and attended by a majority of African Americans. But of course that doesn't matter to people who continuously try to convine themselves that racism no longer exists.
    Am i missing soemthing? If its attended by a majority of african americans wouldnt it be a predominantly black church?

    Not trying to nit pick i just didnt understand

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    Am i missing soemthing? If its attended by a majority of african americans wouldnt it be a predominantly black church?

    Not trying to nit pick i just didnt understand
    As a denomination the church is predominately White. The service he preaches, is attended by mostly Blacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E View Post
    As a denomination the church is predominately White. The service he preaches, is attended by mostly Blacks.
    Thanks. That makes sence. Im not religous so didnt get it

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