AAS for cutting vs bulking?

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Can anyone explain exactly why certain AAS are good for cutting but not for bulking?

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not really

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not really

hahahaha

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a serious answer please, without a flame....

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In all seriousness, go check out the "steroid profile" forum on this website.

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I read it. Maybe if you'd read it more carefully you'd realize why I'm asking. And if you don't know the answer, no need to respond. The AR lounge is elsewhere. Go post on the postwhore thread.

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I read it. Maybe if you'd read it more carefully you'd realize why I'm asking. And if you don't know the answer, no need to respond. The AR lounge is elsewhere. Go post on the postwhore thread.

Your original question is pointless, but that's besides the point. And I find it very hard to believe that you read ALL the steroid proflies, pfft.

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Yes, it's hard to believe, but it's possible for someone to read a whole book even. Try it sometime. I don't see what's the point of your presence here. This is a forum for Q & A . It's not your place to judge people who get up the nerve to ask questions whether their questions are worthy of you or not.

It's been pointed out that this place is for helping one another out. You just enjoy trying to make people feel stupid. I have plenty of educational qualifications and my question is not at all pointless, you just have no clue how to answer, and obviously you're bored so you have no better way to spend your evening than to flame my thread.

Again, if you don't know the answer, or if my question fails to interest you, then post somewhere else, and stop spoiling my thread please.

Thanks

[dece870717]

Can anyone explain exactly why certain AAS are good for cutting but not for bulking?

You can use any AAS to bulk or to cut just some are better at bulking because they're stronger and therefore will give you more LBM gains. Some are better for cutting because they give no water retention, and give enough anabolism to fend off catabolism. Some people like to use weaker cutting roids like winstrol just so they can maintain there muscle or gain a slight bit while being on a hypocaloric diet and doing quite a bit of cardio or some people like myself like to use a very strong steroid for cutting like Tren because it binds so tightly to the androgen receptor in the muscles AND fat cells to help shed fat a lot better.

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thanks man, that's the kind of thing I was looking for!

a friend of mine takes a test blend called "peak test" and uses Winstrol with it, because these are the things the online TRT doc prescribed him. He feels like the Winstrol gives him a lot of growth when added to the test. So I was trying to think how this would jive with Win being weaker and used more for cutting. I guess it's just all relative though. Whatever gain he sees with Win it might be nothing compared to using other AAS.

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a doc gives him winstrol???

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yeah, through an online TRT clinic.

[kynetguy]

a doc gives him winstrol???

Very possible. One of the side effects of low test is loss of muscle tone. Since the TRT is an online service, this could be possible to fake and get.

Winstrol is available by prescription. And TRT clinics have been known to perscribe it.

[kynetguy]

You can use any AAS to bulk or to cut just some are better at bulking because they're stronger and therefore will give you more LBM gains. Some are better for cutting because they give no water retention, and give enough anabolism to fend off catabolism. Some people like to use weaker cutting roids like winstrol just so they can maintain there muscle or gain a slight bit while being on a hypocaloric diet and doing quite a bit of cardio or some people like myself like to use a very strong steroid for cutting like Tren because it binds so tightly to the androgen receptor in the muscles AND fat cells to help shed fat a lot better.

Good answer. I will add a little. . .

If you recall, you would have read that some gear, Tren again as an example) does not aromatse. (convert to estrogen) This helps in the cutting phase as well because of the lower water retention issues.

Another excellent cutter is Anavar. Anavar also has been shown to aid in fat loss.

So, when cutting, these compounds aid a great deal. Not neccesarily by what they DO, buy rather sometimes by what they DON'T do.

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They pretty much offer the stuff to anyone with submaximal (relative to norm) test levels over age thirty who can admit to any symptoms of lowered test. And how many people over thirty have absolutely NO symptoms like that. Yeah I have some decreased concentration and some abdominal fat, and some thinning hair. It's not like I have to make up things like: "my muscle tone is low, could I have Winstrol?" They pretty much offer test and Win with arimidex, and HGH (or optionally GHRH) to everybody. Makes me wonder if one of these days the gov is gonna put these places out of biz...

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[kynetguy]

They pretty much offer the stuff to anyone with submaximal (relative to norm) test levels over age thirty who can admit to any symptoms of lowered test. And how many people over thirty have absolutely NO symptoms like that. Yeah I have some decreased concentration and some abdominal fat, and some thinning hair. It's not like I have to make up things like: "my muscle tone is low, could I have Winstrol?" They pretty much offer test and Win with arimidex, and HGH (or optionally GHRH) to everybody. Makes me wonder if one of these days the gov is gonna put these places out of biz...

--scibble MD

So why would they give you Winny for thinning hair and descreased concentration?

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good question...but I can tell you they do from personal experience.

[kynetguy]

good question...but I can tell you they do from personal experience.

If they do, they they have no medical foundation for it and yes, they will be shut down eventually. Here is Why

Lack of concentration is a side effect of Low test. So is decreased muscle tone. So is some erctile dysfuntion. So is belly fat. So is Farigue. So is increased irratibility. All of which is cured by testosterone. And yes, they winny would bolster the effects of the testosterone for some of these. . .(belly fat and muscle tone)

To give someone with hairloss winny for a cure is 100% incorrect.

Winny (tren, masteron and halo too) are all DHT derivatives. If a person is subject to male pattern baldness, I can assure you that the winny will aid in the speediness of the hair loss.

I can't imagine that they would give winny for more than 6-8 weeks either.

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My "light" research has not confirmed that Win causes hairloss. It may be a derivative but a source mentioned that it does not convert to DHT. I cannot disagree with your statements because I think you may have more knowledge in this realm than I. But I want to ask, have you seen it first hand or is this based on expectation from it's chemical structure?

[kynetguy]

My "light" research has not confirmed that Win causes hairloss. It may be a derivative but a source mentioned that it does not convert to DHT. I cannot disagree with your statements because I think you may have more knowledge in this realm than I. But I want to ask, have you seen it first hand or is this based on expectation from it's chemical structure?

I have seen it first hand with all the DHTs. I am not prone to MPB, I have a full head of hair. I can take a gallon of tren a day and not lose a single hair. But I have had buddies who have had issues. I am sure you can do a search and find 1000 posts about the DHTs and hairloss.

me? knowledge? Steroids? WTF? I am just cutting and pasting from google. . . .j/k