AAS for cutting vs bulking?

[warchild]

a doc gives him winstrol???

[scibble]

yeah, through an online TRT clinic.

[kynetguy]

a doc gives him winstrol???

Very possible. One of the side effects of low test is loss of muscle tone. Since the TRT is an online service, this could be possible to fake and get.

Winstrol is available by prescription. And TRT clinics have been known to perscribe it.

[scibble]

They pretty much offer the stuff to anyone with submaximal (relative to norm) test levels over age thirty who can admit to any symptoms of lowered test. And how many people over thirty have absolutely NO symptoms like that. Yeah I have some decreased concentration and some abdominal fat, and some thinning hair. It's not like I have to make up things like: "my muscle tone is low, could I have Winstrol?" They pretty much offer test and Win with arimidex, and HGH (or optionally GHRH) to everybody. Makes me wonder if one of these days the gov is gonna put these places out of biz...

--scibble MD

[kynetguy]

They pretty much offer the stuff to anyone with submaximal (relative to norm) test levels over age thirty who can admit to any symptoms of lowered test. And how many people over thirty have absolutely NO symptoms like that. Yeah I have some decreased concentration and some abdominal fat, and some thinning hair. It's not like I have to make up things like: "my muscle tone is low, could I have Winstrol?" They pretty much offer test and Win with arimidex, and HGH (or optionally GHRH) to everybody. Makes me wonder if one of these days the gov is gonna put these places out of biz...

--scibble MD

So why would they give you Winny for thinning hair and descreased concentration?

[scibble]

good question...but I can tell you they do from personal experience.

[kynetguy]

good question...but I can tell you they do from personal experience.

If they do, they they have no medical foundation for it and yes, they will be shut down eventually. Here is Why

Lack of concentration is a side effect of Low test. So is decreased muscle tone. So is some erctile dysfuntion. So is belly fat. So is Farigue. So is increased irratibility. All of which is cured by testosterone. And yes, they winny would bolster the effects of the testosterone for some of these. . .(belly fat and muscle tone)

To give someone with hairloss winny for a cure is 100% incorrect.

Winny (tren, masteron and halo too) are all DHT derivatives. If a person is subject to male pattern baldness, I can assure you that the winny will aid in the speediness of the hair loss.

I can't imagine that they would give winny for more than 6-8 weeks either.

[scibble]

My "light" research has not confirmed that Win causes hairloss. It may be a derivative but a source mentioned that it does not convert to DHT. I cannot disagree with your statements because I think you may have more knowledge in this realm than I. But I want to ask, have you seen it first hand or is this based on expectation from it's chemical structure?