Arimidex during cycle and for PCT?

[WiBballer]

If I run Arimidex during my cycle should I use another AI for PCT?

[stallion_1]

nolvadex for pct
and ai on cycle in case of gyno only

[133923]

I would not reccommend taking the arimidex during pct but taking .25mg-.4mgs a day of it while on cycle would be great for controlling estrogen sides, if I were you I would take nolvadex and aromasin together during your pct.

[Flex-Appeal]

id use letro before arimidex on cycle. More effective

[LATS60]

If I run Arimidex during my cycle should I use another AI for PCT?

No it's not necessary.

[DS21]

If I run Arimidex during my cycle should I use another AI for PCT?

What is your cycle?

[DS21]

No it's not necessary.

Are you saying it is not necessary to use an ai for pct?? If so, you are wrong. An ai and a serm should be used for pct.

[WiBballer]

Here's the cycle I'm considering:

Test E 500 Wks 1-12
Deca 500 Wks 1-10
Dbol 30mg Wks 1-5
Arimidex .5 Wks 1-12??

PCT
Arimidex Wks 1-4 ??
Nolvadex Wks 1-4
HCG Wks 1-3??

[LATS60]

Are you saying it is not necessary to use an ai for pct?? If so, you are wrong. An ai and a serm should be used for pct.

Are you havin a laugh, he asked if he needed to change his AI for PCT.
I said no it's not necessary.

[stallion_1]

Here's the cycle I'm considering:

Test E 500 Wks 1-12
Deca 500 Wks 1-10
Dbol 30mg Wks 1-5
Arimidex .5 Wks 1-12??

PCT
Arimidex Wks 1-4 ??
Nolvadex Wks 1-4
HCG Wks 1-3??

lol no bro post cycle that means after cycle not on cycle here u go

Test E 500 Wks 1-12
Deca 500 Wks 1-10
Dbol 30mg Wks 1-5
Arimidex .5 Wks 1-12 id use this only if i see gyno signs, but if u wanna control bloating then thats ok

PCT
Arimidex not needed in pct since u have nolvadex which is stronger
Nolvadex Wks 15-18
HCG Wks 15-18

[stallion_1]

Are you saying it is not necessary to use an ai for pct?? If so, you are wrong. An ai and a serm should be used for pct.

no u dont need an ai n a serm

only the serm c'mon dude

[LATS60]

Here's the cycle I'm considering:

Test E 500 Wks 1-12
Deca 500 Wks 1-10
Dbol 30mg Wks 1-5
Arimidex .5 Wks 1-12??

PCT
Arimidex Wks 1-4 ??
Nolvadex Wks 1-4
HCG Wks 1-3??

For that cycle your PCT seems a bit poor, JMO, but we all now how hard deca hits and recovery can be a bitch without a strong PCT.

[LATS60]

lol no bro post cycle that means after cycle not on cycle here u go

Test E 500 Wks 1-12
Deca 500 Wks 1-10
Dbol 30mg Wks 1-5
Arimidex .5 Wks 1-12 id use this only if i see gyno signs, but if u wanna control bloating then thats ok

PCT
Arimidex not needed in pct since u have nolvadex which is stronger
Nolvadex Wks 15-18
HCG Wks 15-18

It isn't stronger than adex, because you cannot compare them, they are totally different drugs.

[big_dubya33]

Here's the cycle I'm considering:

Test E 500 Wks 1-12
Deca 500 Wks 1-10
Dbol 30mg Wks 1-5
Arimidex .5 Wks 1-12??

PCT
Arimidex Wks 1-4 ??
Nolvadex Wks 1-4
HCG Wks 1-3??

Look up anthony roberts pct and go with that. Nolva plus Aromasin plus HCG. It will tell you how to time the hcg, and the aromasin is better with nolva because of an interaction b/t nolva and a-dex. You can try your pct with just nolva and hcg but aromasin is a great addition.

good luck.

[WARMachine]

lol no bro post cycle that means after cycle not on cycle here u go

Test E 500 Wks 1-12
Deca 500 Wks 1-10
Dbol 30mg Wks 1-5
Arimidex .5 Wks 1-12 id use this only if i see gyno signs, but if u wanna control bloating then thats ok

PCT
Arimidex not needed in pct since u have nolvadex which is stronger
Nolvadex Wks 15-18
HCG Wks 15-18

WTF? So you want him to only use Nolva for PCT?


WiB do NOT listen to this, it is terrible advice.


Check out 189's PCT

my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013

estrogen/progesterone side effect control on cycle
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=354229

[WARMachine]

id use letro before arimidex on cycle. More effective

i would as well, but you have to be careful, Letro is tricky do to the estrogen rebound, its best to taper off with nolva...

[WARMachine]

Humor me WiB


age
height
weight
bf%
diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience
pct/estrogen control knowledge

I answer your questions btw, i just wanna see what im working with.

[WiBballer]

Thanks all for the advice, I really appreciate people taking the time to try and help out. Like everyone else, I'm just trying trying to run the most effective cycle I can while causing my body the lease amount of problems. I've got a few months before my next cycle so I'll keep reading and learning.

[WiBballer]

War4btt
age 40
height 5'11"
weight 190
bf% 15?
diet summary/# meals per day On cycle - 5-6, right now, 4-5
years lifting / workout split I've been lifting for a long time for fitness but serious about gaining this calander year only. I've been doing a 3 day split
cycle experience 1 cycle - test and dbol
pct/estrogen control knowledge limited, what I've learned while reading on this site.

[catdog]

I was always under the impression that nolva was one of the weakest for PCT. Clomid, Aromison would be the ticket. You can run the aromision like you said while on cycle and 3wks after along with 50mgs a day clomid. PCT starts 2 wks after last inject. I would run the HCG while on cycle at 500ius every third day just to keep your puppies up and running and stop it one to two wks before PCT. This will help your recovery go much faster. If your using Tren or Deca use Caber instead of Aromison.

[WARMachine]

Ok well, if thats a current pic in your avatar, your not doing bad so...

I doubt your BF is 15 though, your looking closer to 11-13 so your good...

[WARMachine]

Ok where to begin?


Test E 500 Wks 1-12 Looks good!
Deca 500 Wks 1-10 Looks good!
Dbol 30mg Wks 1-5 Might consider 4wks, but no biggie!
Arimidex .5 Wks 1-12?? If you are that concered about gyno i would suggest .25mg of letro ED, EOD, OR E3D, i wouldnt expect too much unless your prone to it.

PCT
Arimidex Wks 1-4 ??
Nolvadex Wks 1-4
HCG Wks 1-3??


I like to run HCG two weeks before the cycle ends, and two weeks into PCT.


Final finished product should look like this.


Wks 1-12: Test E 500
Wks 1-10: Deca 500
Wks 1-5: Dbol 30mg
([Option] Letro@ .25mg ED, if you choose to do this, your gonna need to taper off with nolva because of estrogen rebound!)

14-20: nolva 20mg ed
14-18: clomid 25mg
14-18: aromasin 50mg ed

Wks (-2)-2:hcg 500iu 2x a week

BTW just in case: hcg crash course
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4127466

[WARMachine]

What no bump?


BTW whats up with the Lensar looking tattoo?

[stallion_1]

WTF? So you want him to only use Nolva for PCT?


WiB do NOT listen to this, it is terrible advice.


Check out 189's PCT

my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013

estrogen/progesterone side effect control on cycle
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=354229

dude nolva n hcg, dont u see i never removed the hcg

[Peter_77]

I use Clomid 150mg ED along with Adex .25mg ED for pct after a mild 12w prop only cycel. Works great. I would recomend Adex during pct for controlling the elivated est levels that pct can bring.

[WARMachine]

150g of Clomid ED?

And you get no side effects from that high of a dose?

[Peter_77]

150g of Clomid ED?

And you get no side effects from that high of a dose?

No sides what so ever. Guess I'm lucky... :-) forgot to say I run the pct for 30 days

[burnin69]

150 little too much buddy expecially through the whole pct, I do 100 the first day or two then run 50 and do great.

[Peter_77]

Yeah I know what the clomid profile says but since i aint getting no sides I thought **** it! 150mg ED gotta bring my natural test levels back up faster then a 100mg or 50mg.

[WARMachine]

Or have an adverse effect on them...Either Or...

But if it aint broke, dont fix it...

Just do me a favor, keep in mind that just because it works for you, doesnt mean it will for anyone else...

Keep it simple for first timers especially, and most important, keep it safe for them... 150mg ED is just plain too much!

Dont go recommending that to others, as more than likely, it isnt going to work out as well for them as it does for yourself...

[Peter_77]

I actually never recomended to go 150mg ED if you read my first post. I did how ever recomend to use Adex. A forum is as much for telling people what works for you as is it for recomending stuff to others. There's a differnce you know... Just my two cents anyway.

[WARMachine]

I totally understand and i see you didnt "ACTUALLY" recommend 150mg ED, but other new guys read these threads and might interpret that you should use 150 mg ED, if you know what i mean...

There is a difference there as well you know...

[Peter_77]

Aight man. Let's just fukkin drop it! Ok?

[WARMachine]

No problem dont get your panites in a twist...

Whats the problem with all these hyperactive guys...

Geez i guess roid rage is true!

[one8nine]

Here's the cycle I'm considering:

Test E 500 Wks 1-12
Deca 500 Wks 1-10
Dbol 30mg Wks 1-5
Arimidex .5 Wks 1-12??

PCT
Arimidex Wks 1-4 ??
Nolvadex Wks 1-4
HCG Wks 1-3??

my changes then why

Test E 500 Wks 1-12
Deca 500 Wks 1-10
Dbol 30mg Wks 1-5
letro .25mg ed 1-14

PCT
aromasin or proviron 15-18
Nolvadex Wks 15-18
HCG Wks 13-16

letro > arimidex because of deca

estrogen/progesterone side effect control on cycle
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=354229

aromasin > adex because of nolva

my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013

hcg week change to get a head start

hcg crash course
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4127466

[WiBballer]

Thanks all for the advice, I think I've it nailed now.

[WARMachine]

Post up the finished product brother!

Lets see it in all its glory!

[WiBballer]

Final Plan

Test E 500 Wks 1-12 250 2x wk
Deca 500 Wks 1-10 250 2x wk
Dbol 30mg Wks 1-5
letro .25mg Wks 1-14 (still researching the frequency) ed, eod, etc.

PCT
Aromasin Wks 15-18 40mg ed
Nolvadex Wks 15-18 20mg ed
HCG Wks 13-16 500iu 2x wk

[WARMachine]

Nice JOB!!!

I would suggest ED with the letro btw... Since your BF, well it isnt high, but its high enough to see some gyno...

Beauitful bro, im so proud!

[DS21]

Are you havin a laugh, he asked if he needed to change his AI for PCT.
I said no it's not necessary.

I wasn't trying to make fun of you, I just thought you told him not to use an ai during pct, I see that I misunderstood. I apolagize.