Tren and side effects what dose was too high?

[redz]

I was just curious to get some feedback on what peoples experience on running higher doses of Tren were. What amount gave you sides you couldnt handle? I have ran upto 600mg Tren E weekly with virtually no sides other than night sweats. Any thoughts on what would be too much Tren?

[1bigun11]

I'm running 150 mg eod, with exactly same sides (no better or worse) than when I ran it at 200 mg week. I may soon bump to 200 mg eod. Right now I'm running it w 560 mg test sust eod. I LIKE IT

[redz]

Yeah I am currently torn on what my next cycle will be. I am thinking either a higher dose of Tren E or possibly the addition of EQ just to try it because so many people bash it and I want to see for myself.

I could do something like this next:

weeks
1-4 dbol 50mg ed
1-15 Test E 750mg/week
3-14 Tren E 650,g/week
1-15 EQ 600mg/week

or maybe just forget the EQ and do more Tren.

[1bigun11]

Yeah I am currently torn on what my next cycle will be. I am thinking either a higher dose of Tren E or possibly the addition of EQ just to try it because so many people bash it and I want to see for myself.

I could do something like this next:

weeks
1-4 dbol 50mg ed
1-15 Test E 750mg/week
3-14 Tren E 650,g/week
1-15 EQ 600mg/week

or maybe just forget the EQ and do more Tren.

Interesting. I think the people who bash equipoise dont run enough of it for long enough. I think a mininmum of 14-16 weeks at least 600 mg week, as you propose. Some people swear by it, hardens them up like a racehorse. Others dont get much out of it.

I prefer more the "more tren" option, but i think nothing is wrong with your proposal, and you will never know how you react to equipoise unless you do it.

Cheers.

[RANA]

I've ran tren a at 100mg ED with little sides

[Knockout_Power]

I'll know shortly, doing 700/wk starting pretty quick.

[Hazard]

Yeah I am currently torn on what my next cycle will be. I am thinking either a higher dose of Tren E or possibly the addition of EQ just to try it because so many people bash it and I want to see for myself.

I could do something like this next:

weeks
1-4 dbol 50mg ed
1-15 Test E 750mg/week
3-14 Tren E 650,g/week
1-15 EQ 600mg/week

or maybe just forget the EQ and do more Tren.

If you want to run EQ i'd suggest not running tren with it. You aren't going to notice anything form the EQ with tren in the cycle LOL. If you want to try it..... try 800mg's/wk for no less than 14 weeks.

I ran 600mg's/wk for 14 weeks and didn't notice anything different from test only..... let me know if you run it though and how it goes for you.

~Haz~

[redz]

If you want to run EQ i'd suggest not running tren with it. You aren't going to notice anything form the EQ with tren in the cycle LOL. If you want to try it..... try 800mg's/wk for no less than 14 weeks.

I`m not sure I can bring myself to cycle without tren right now. i lvoe the stuff so much lol. I really just cant figure out why some people swear by EQ and so many hate it. If i was going to use Test and Eq only I would surely use a very high EQ dose.

[Ashop]

I was just curious to get some feedback on what peoples experience on running higher doses of Tren were. What amount gave you sides you couldnt handle? I have ran upto 600mg Tren E weekly with virtually no sides other than night sweats. Any thoughts on what would be too much Tren?

It will vary per individual. The only thing that gave me problems with TREN was not using it in conjunction with some testosterone.

[Vitruvian-Man]

I`m not sure I can bring myself to cycle without tren right now. i lvoe the stuff so much lol. I really just cant figure out why some people swear by EQ and so many hate it. If i was going to use Test and Eq only I would surely use a very high EQ dose.

I actually don't mind your initially proposed cycle. You've got a high dose of tren, which should do the majority of the work. The EQ will be mild, but will provide crazy vascularity and hunger (even though tren does both these things.)

When I run EQ I always stick to 900 - 1100mg each week.

You need a very high dose.

... I wouldn't bother reverting to an EQ / Test cycle if you've already dabbled with 19-nors nothing will compare.

Once thing to consider though... how about a Prop/Primo/NPP/Anadrol or Anavar cycle.

^^ that's one hell of a cycle.

[firmechicano831]

Yeah I am currently torn on what my next cycle will be. I am thinking either a higher dose of Tren E or possibly the addition of EQ just to try it because so many people bash it and I want to see for myself.

I could do something like this next:

weeks
1-4 dbol 50mg ed
1-15 Test E 750mg/week
3-14 Tren E 650,g/week
1-15 EQ 600mg/week

or maybe just forget the EQ and do more Tren.

I did the tren and test at 350mg every week and gained 18 pounds. It was a 12 week cycle and I implemented masteron the last 4 weeks.

[redz]

Once thing to consider though... how about a Prop/Primo/NPP/Anadrol or Anavar cycle.

^^ that's one hell of a cycle.

To be honest I am not all that excitted about the thought of injecting daily or every other day. I`m sure at some point i`ll try it but I`m very busy with work and my schedule is different every day so it can be very difficult to time the shots at the same time every day.

[RANA]

To be honest I am not all that excitted about the thought of injecting daily or every other day. I`m sure at some point i`ll try it but I`m very busy with work and my schedule is different every day so it can be very difficult to time the shots at the same time every day.

I found it rather easy. I would prep everything before I went to bed then I would inject every morning at 4:30 (right as I get up), on weekends it would be around 6:30

[Vitruvian-Man]

To be honest I am not all that excitted about the thought of injecting daily or every other day. I`m sure at some point i`ll try it but I`m very busy with work and my schedule is different every day so it can be very difficult to time the shots at the same time every day.

Injecting 3 - 4 times per week is nothing bro! lol.

Come on

Try it out.

[alpmaster]

I found it rather easy. I would prep everything before I went to bed then I would inject every morning at 4:30 (right as I get up), on weekends it would be around 6:30

Yeah, exactly how I do.


I'm running 700mg/week (100mg/ed) right now, I have run upwards of 850mg for a little bit.


Besides being one sweaty mother ****er (if you plan on dating while on Tren... try to keep it in the winter), and I can be pissy too but I'm not sure if that's the diet or the tren. I've ran tren twice, both in cutting cycles, so I don't know if it's the 15g of carbs per day or the tren, but you get the idea. Other than that, no BP issues, no hairline issues, no prostate issues and nothing else I can really state.

[Shadman05]

Would 50mg Ed be ok for a first time tren user or should I bump it up?

[Jfew44]

I ran tren e at 600mgs/day and had very little sides. I will be running tren a at 100mgs/day shortly. We will see how it goes.

[MR10X]

I actually don't mind your initially proposed cycle. You've got a high dose of tren, which should do the majority of the work. The EQ will be mild, but will provide crazy vascularity and hunger (even though tren does both these things.)

When I run EQ I always stick to 900 - 1100mg each week.

You need a very high dose.

... I wouldn't bother reverting to an EQ / Test cycle if you've already dabbled with 19-nors nothing will compare.

Once thing to consider though... how about a Prop/Primo/NPP/Anadrol or Anavar cycle.

^^ that's one hell of a cycle.

I an doing 75mg Tren A and 50mg Test Suspension ED and my appetite sucks right now,i have to force my self to eat the amount i need some times.My appetite was much better on EQ,i am thinking about adding a little EQ to see if it will help.Also the tren has caused my cardio and breathing to decrease to the point where i get really winded especially after doing body parts like legs.

[stpete]

700mgs (100mgs ed) Tren Ace every week seems to be the magic # for me. I've ran up to 875mgs but it seemed like i was just wasting it. Plus, i was getting awesome results w/700. This is the only way i run it now. Insomnia, night sweats and aggresion are the sides and they never change. I know you said you didn't like pinning ed but it's worth it man. And the eq is a waste of money imo.
Here's my next cycle in october.
1-14 Test E 750mgs EW
4-12 Tren A 100mgs ED
Undecided about an oral at the beginning.
You could get away with EOD injects if you want.

[rockinred]

700mgs (100mgs ed) Tren Ace every week seems to be the magic # for me. I've ran up to 875mgs but it seemed like i was just wasting it. Plus, i was getting awesome results w/700. This is the only way i run it now. Insomnia, night sweats and aggresion are the sides and they never change. I know you said you didn't like pinning ed but it's worth it man. And the eq is a waste of money imo.
Here's my next cycle in october.
1-14 Test E 750mgs EW
4-12 Tren A 100mgs ED
Undecided about an oral at the beginning.
You could get away with EOD injects if you want.

stpete, if you are injecting everyday, why don't you run prop with the tren?

Redz, injecting ed is not bad at all... in fact it keeps me more focused on my training.... I feel guilty on my off days injecting so I get anxious to get back the next day and maximize my investment. It's not bad at all.

[alpmaster]

Why do you guys always suggest a fast acting ester to only be injected with another fast ester. If he's injecting Tren A ed, then wether he runs prop or cyp, he's still going to be injecting everyday. I don't understand...

[Noles12]

Why do you guys always suggest a fast acting ester to only be injected with another fast ester. If he's injecting Tren A ed, then wether he runs prop or cyp, he's still going to be injecting everyday. I don't understand...

I completely agree. Rather than shooting more mL's in a spot everyday, why not just do it twice a week.

[rockinred]

Why do I suggest? I can only state that it stands for reason. I don't think anyone said you couldn't do that, but it is only logical for me. The whole reason longer ester compounds like Enanthate were created was to limit the injections. You do know that Prop was created first right? Then the longer acting esters came out later to prevent the frequent injections.

Also, why would I want to run tren A and start feeling the effect of it in the first week only to have to wait another 6 weeks for the test to start acting? It is contradictory to run it in this manner to me. Not saying it can't be done, just an opinion.

So I ask you in return... why would you run two different compounds with the longer ester mixed with the shorter one? Please give me some insight on this. Not talking about stpete's cycle, because he has a kickstart and isn't starting the tren a till week 4, so I understand what he is doing...but can you explain your logic on your statement?

[alpmaster]

[QUOTE=rockinred;4877285]

Also, why would I want to run tren A and start feeling the effect of it in the first week only to have to wait another 6 weeks for the test to start acting? It is contradictory to run it in this manner to me. [QUOTE]


Then that means an oral kickstart should never be done, and orals should be used in the back half of the cycle when you have the test "acting".

[Noles12]

No one suggested to run the tren from the start of the long ester test. MOst start it at week 4 and run it for 8 weeks which would still be running something everyday for 8 weeks. It would make it nicer to not have to shoot so many mL's every week during those 8 weeks. It is all on personal preference though

[rockinred]

[QUOTE=alpmaster;4877295][QUOTE=rockinred;4877285]

Also, why would I want to run tren A and start feeling the effect of it in the first week only to have to wait another 6 weeks for the test to start acting? It is contradictory to run it in this manner to me.

Then that means an oral kickstart should never be done, and orals should be used in the back half of the cycle when you have the test "acting".

You don't get it.. I am not arguing.... orals on the back half are great also... Tren A and no test can equate to = no diick for a while... to eaches own.

My response involved logic as to the original question. If the only logic you have is to reduce the amount of cc's you inject everyday is not a big deal. So 1cc as oppose to 2cc is a big deal?

There are a lot of reasons to run a long and short ester together and really a lot would do something like that because they don't have access to Test P so they run it as such. But to say I don't want to inject 2cc's as oppose to 1cc is kind of silly reasoning to me.

[redz]

I like this feedback and different trains of thought. I will at some point try short esters but not for my next cycle atleast. I have ran winny injects which was an aweful experience in itself lol(won`t be doing that again). Whats the longest someone has ran Tren without any issues? I personally go 10 weeks each time which seems to workout very well.

[Jfew44]

I ran tren e for 12 weeks and it wasnt enough. I started seeing great results around week 9, then ran out of gear. If I were to run tren e again, it would be for 15 weeks.

[1bigun11]

I ran tren e at 600mgs/day and had very little sides. I will be running tren a at 100mgs/day shortly. We will see how it goes.

Did you mean you ran tren e at 600 mg/week? I never heard of anyone running at 600mg/day. Yikes!

[Knockout_Power]

heh, you beat me to that one, I was like WOW over 4g/week of Tren, must be 400lbs and 5%