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    Taking bodybuilding back to the old school mentality

    I think bodybuilding is turning into a downward spiral, I've gotten to the point where modern bodybuilding pharmacology practice and workouts simply dont appeal to me anymore. The problem with whats going on w/ the sport is it doesn't encourage the average person to want to work out anymore. Or even the beginner amateur competitor believes that he has to have HGH to even step on a bodybuilding stage. Peoples entire lives become intertwined w/ food, drugs, RECOVERY. RECOVERY, here is another big one. Since when the **** did everything have to be perfect to work out? Jesus Christ, some of these guys are starting to sound like the biggest bunch of pussies, "I cannot train today because I missed meal #4, I only slept 6.3 hrs last night and not 8!! Well I did back yesterday, so I cannot do legs today and chest is out, and I dont want to do biceps, blah blah blah....... It's like the sport begins controlling them, and I've found that you have to control the sport. Hardly anybody does pullups anymore, deadlifts, squats. Everyone feels the need to sport some ****ing $150 Nike Air Zoom shoes and God Forbid they get ****ing dirty because then dumbasses need to go buy brand new ones. I dont know, the cell phones, the Tv's, the entire image of what the sport used to be or should be is being killed. Whatever happened to doing the best you could with what you had available? If all a guy has is Dbols, then God damn run the dbols and lift like a mother****er, dont break the bank and go w/out food in your fridge just b/ you dont have test!! If you dont have GH then dont not compete, go kick as much ass as you can with Animal Cuts and vitamins or whatever you have. But all the shit nowadays, people worried about whether the sun and ****ing moon are in the right position to train chest, whether they should eat flax oil or peanut butter at xy time of the day only, I say **** all that!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NVR2BIG1 View Post
    I think bodybuilding is turning into a downward spiral, I've gotten to the point where modern bodybuilding pharmacology practice and workouts simply dont appeal to me anymore. The problem with whats going on w/ the sport is it doesn't encourage the average person to want to work out anymore. Or even the beginner amateur competitor believes that he has to have HGH to even step on a bodybuilding stage. Peoples entire lives become intertwined w/ food, drugs, RECOVERY. RECOVERY, here is another big one. Since when the **** did everything have to be perfect to work out? Jesus Christ, some of these guys are starting to sound like the biggest bunch of pussies, "I cannot train today because I missed meal #4, I only slept 6.3 hrs last night and not 8!! Well I did back yesterday, so I cannot do legs today and chest is out, and I dont want to do biceps, blah blah blah....... It's like the sport begins controlling them, and I've found that you have to control the sport. Hardly anybody does pullups anymore, deadlifts, squats. Everyone feels the need to sport some ****ing $150 Nike Air Zoom shoes and God Forbid they get ****ing dirty because then dumbasses need to go buy brand new ones. I dont know, the cell phones, the Tv's, the entire image of what the sport used to be or should be is being killed. Whatever happened to doing the best you could with what you had available? If all a guy has is Dbols, then God damn run the dbols and lift like a mother****er, dont break the bank and go w/out food in your fridge just b/ you dont have test!! If you dont have GH then dont not compete, go kick as much ass as you can with Animal Cuts and vitamins or whatever you have. But all the shit nowadays, people worried about whether the sun and ****ing moon are in the right position to train chest, whether they should eat flax oil or peanut butter at xy time of the day only, I say **** all that!!
    dont be stoopid!

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    I agree that people should work with what they have. So as more products, supplements, AAS, etc become available, people should take advantage of it. I agree that too many people take it too far today. Overall though, I think the best approach would be if people had the mentality of the old school lifters, but took advantage of modern benefits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    dont be stoopid!
    everyone preaches test, I know. I'm actually one of the rare advocates of low test or test free cycles, although I use test year round as TRT, but low amounts and never go above 500mg/wk anymore at any given time. I've ran some dbol only cycles as a beginner w/ no problems at all though, great gains!! would have been better if i kept them, but thats dbol for ya, hahahha

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    Hardly anybody does pullups anymore, deadlifts, squats.
    I do each of these at least once a week...then again I'm not a body builder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NVR2BIG1 View Post
    everyone preaches test, I know. I'm actually one of the rare advocates of low test or test free cycles, although I use test year round as TRT, but low amounts and never go above 500mg/wk anymore at any given time. I've ran some dbol only cycles as a beginner w/ no problems at all though, great gains!! would have been better if i kept them, but thats dbol for ya, hahahha
    me too, im a recent believer in lower test and am on trt, but if people plan to cycle they should do it proper and lack of money means dont do half arsed cycles in my book, it'll only be a waste anyhow

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    Quote Originally Posted by NVR2BIG1 View Post
    I think bodybuilding is turning into a downward spiral, [edited for time...], whether they should eat flax oil or peanut butter at xy time of the day only, I say **** all that!!
    Remember to breathe, take a deep breath, now hold it... hold... hold..... now exhale. Feel better now? =)
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    I'm going to venture a guess that very few of us in here actually do 100% of everything they can do for this activity. But what I do, as with anything I take an interest in, is to improve my diet/routine/life over time, picking the low hanging fruit first, and then maybe stretching a little for the "fruit" that is a little out of reach. We (or most of us) lead complex lives with jobs/families/wives and don't have the luxury of time to spend many multiple hours a day in the gym working out. Yes, there are a few 1%'ers here, but still only 1%. The rest of us do what we can with what we got then move on. So now really my man, I don't get your rant. What's up with that???

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    I have recently gone back to old school myself, being 38 i feel i need to prove myself even more, i am not using steroids, and got a testosterone blood test and everything came back above normal so i will wait for the TRT.

    It is my believe that the supplement industry is pushing way to many marketing things our way, and putting fear into us about not eating enough protein, PWO meal and more.

    I have gone back to food for building muscles, i still take multi vit. glucosamine collagen, and right now i am using kre alkalyn creatine and that's it for supplements.

    I have changed my training as well because i feel that if i am well rested why should i rest even more before training the same muscles.

    I have switch my split to a 6 days per week training,

    Chest triceps
    back biceps
    legs
    shoulders
    if i feel good i repeat the cycle.

    Big muscles will be worked with 16sets and smaller ones with 6-9 sets

    I feel that over training is over rated too, and i do believe with trial and errors for a natural bodybuilder to build muscles you need to lift weights and train as much as your body can take it. This is why i love the listen to your body principle, been using this for the past 2 months and it great.

    The old school bodybuilding add some amazing training program, don't know what happened with all that science crap and now having people train for 3 times per week 20 minutes session, my training never gets passed 45 minutes and sometimes i can get everything done within 30 minutes.

    I have been able to build the best physique training this way, and don't believe in the less is more when it comes to training.

    As for steroids well might look into test E when the time comes around and am older right now i feel like i am 20 again, weight lifting is the fountain of youth.

    I am also doing some IF intermittent fasting here and there and its working very well, giving the digestive system and internal organs a break and great for fatloss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    I'm going to venture a guess that very few of us in here actually do 100% of everything they can do for this activity. But what I do, as with anything I take an interest in, is to improve my diet/routine/life over time, picking the low hanging fruit first, and then maybe stretching a little for the "fruit" that is a little out of reach. We (or most of us) lead complex lives with jobs/families/wives and don't have the luxury of time to spend many multiple hours a day in the gym working out. Yes, there are a few 1%'ers here, but still only 1%. The rest of us do what we can with what we got then move on. So now really my man, I don't get your rant. What's up with that???
    think hes on his period

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    think hes on his period
    Naw... he's ok... something must be eating at him?

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    I agree with him 100%.

    Don't be a *****, lift those ****ing weights! But im not a bodybuilder either, im a strength athlete. So most my boys lift hard till they puke, bodybuilders are known not to... well the typical ones at the gym, not you boys.

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    Naw... he's ok... something must be eating at him?
    I just know too many guys pissing in the wind and throwing their lives away. They dont understand why their family life sucks, why everyone in their life leaves them. I'm not talking about Joe Blow spending $300 on a cycle here or there, I'm talking about some personal friends of mine who spend $1000/month just on drugs. Some friends who use so much GH they sleep 14 hrs a day, basically junkies. Like heroin addicts, just different product. They dont want to throw the baseball w/ their kid because it exerts too much necessary energy for the gym. And they'll never be pro. When you personally know guys like this, then you'll understand

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    Quote Originally Posted by NVR2BIG1;****519
    I just know too many guys pissing in the wind and throwing their lives away. They dont understand why their family life sucks, why everyone in their life leaves them. I'm not talking about Joe Blow spending $300 on a cycle here or there, I'm talking about some personal friends of mine who spend $1000/month just on drugs. Some friends who use so much GH they sleep 14 hrs a day, basically junkies. Like heroin addicts, just different product. They dont want to throw the baseball w/ their kid because it exerts too much necessary energy for the gym. And they'll never be pro. When you personally know guys like this, then you'll understand
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    i totally agree what happened to old days u r sick and yet u r working out i use to only go to the doctors when i couldnt work out. its a sport if u r going to be pansy lets just call u "Nancy" or "Princess" cause u deserve it......pp, are getting more show off thats y i like England BB its not showbusiness....but i wish we can turn this thing back

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    I decided to go old school a couple years ago but my old school is different from yours. Mine means focus on diet and working out/routine/form. KISS theory. Keep It Short Stupid.
    I dont over think or complicate things anymore. No fancy workouts with multiple routines.
    No fancy exotic new supplements.

    I work out 5x a week about an hour a day. I mostly do only one muscle group a day. I try to make every rep count by focusing on form.
    I eat healthy food 6+ times a day

    Yes it can get more complicated than that but those are the basics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    I decided to go old school a couple years ago but my old school is different from yours. Mine means focus on diet and working out/routine/form. KISS theory. Keep It Short Stupid.
    I dont over think or complicate things anymore. No fancy workouts with multiple routines.
    No fancy exotic new supplements.

    I work out 5x a week about an hour a day. I mostly do only one muscle group a day. I try to make every rep count by focusing on form.
    I eat healthy food 6+ times a day

    Yes it can get more complicated than that but those are the basics.
    So, based on your definition, then I'm old school and didn't even know it!! yes, I like to keep it simple. Work only one muscle group/day and only that group once a week. Real clean diet (except for them dang tasty ribs last night!!) 5 meals a day. I do take alot of vit/min/supplements. I am experimenting with aas, so I guess not totally old school. But for an old bull, I've got moderate size, good muscularity, and pretty good vascularity. Now if I can just get rid of these little love handles....................?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    I decided to go old school a couple years ago but my old school is different from yours. Mine means focus on diet and working out/routine/form. KISS theory. Keep It Short Stupid.
    I dont over think or complicate things anymore. No fancy workouts with multiple routines.
    No fancy exotic new supplements.

    I work out 5x a week about an hour a day. I mostly do only one muscle group a day. I try to make every rep count by focusing on form.
    I eat healthy food 6+ times a day

    Yes it can get more complicated than that but those are the basics.
    yep, i agree. complicated routines do little more than sell stupid glossy muscle mags.

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