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    Best way to train on AAS?

    First off - yep, I know my post count is low, newb status. I've been here lurking and searching for a while, though.

    My big question right now is, how exactly should I be training on AAS?

    I'm 25yrs old 6'1" 210lbs ~15%bf. I started training when I was 22, and 165lbs.

    Started off doing StrongLifts5x5 for about 18mos. Got kind of bored with that, and ended up doing mostly CrossFit for a year. Started to realize that was filled with mostly nutjobs - and I wasn't getting any bigger. Then Animal Hellraiser for a couple months.... the effects of that wore off quickly. Now I'm on some sort of push/pull/legs routine I've come up with. I won't bother posting it - unless someone asks - because I don't plan on staying on it.

    My goal is to end up around 225lbs and 10-12%bf.

    Can someone more knowledgeable than me give me some pointers on what to be doing, and what to be using?
    I've found plenty of good looking routines.. just not sure what would be the most efficient use of AAS.

    For the record, I have all the free time I want. If some plan happened to require 4hrs a day, 7 days a week, that would be doable.
    The only AAS I have access to are Test E. and Deca, and pct. (That is NOT fishing. This would be my first cycle, so I don't want to take anything more than test, anyways.)

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    Training 4 hrs a day, 7 days per week would be stupid. No amount of gear would help.

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    Well, yeah. That was just an exaggerated antithesis to a lot of programs that I've seen that seem to want to get you out of the gym as fast as possible.
    That, and, I wasn't sure if there are any merits to doing an AM and PM workout? Seems like an easy way to overtrain... but I've met guys much bigger than me who swear by it.

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    If you aren't growing training once per day, then there is no way you would grow training twice. True there are people that are big and lift 2x per. day but they are more than likely on a lot of gear and have excellent genetics.

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    I'm making slow but steady strength gains, pretty much nothing in terms of hypertrophy though.
    I.E., for most upper-arm based exercises, I've improved about 20% in the past 6 months. Haven't added more than 1/4".

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    A rule of thumb for most people is you need to add about 15LBS of equally distributed muscle mass to add 1" to your arms. Your diet/nutrition needs to be in check. If your diet and routine are not optimal, then AAS wont help.

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    Yeah.... that's why I posted, asking about how to train optimally....

    Most of my training has been focused on increasing strength and conditioning, while maintaining weight so I could still fight at middleweight.

    I don't compete any more, so I'm starting to focus on mass gain and aesthetics as a primary goal.

    I just can't seem to find anything that takes AAS into account. I find it hard to believe that it wouldn't be a major factor in designing a training regimen.

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    Well, Like he said, your training and diet ALREADY should be dialed in BEFORE you start on AAS. From your post it sounds like you've been bouncing around trying different things. I'd post your current diet in the "nutrition resource" section, and then look for a solid traditional routine in the "workout questions" part. Much of what I read is that once you have a good routine in place, the only real difference when on AAS is to add volume and weight as you get stronger and recover faster.
    The routines aren't rocket science, it's traditional exercises performed with excellent form in the right rep range.

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    I've always taken nutrition and cooking pretty seriously. If I get some time tonite or tomorrow, I'll put up my diet for critique. It's been a while since I got any outside input, hopefully I can pick up a thing or two.

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    i havent a clue as to the types of training youve been doing in the past as ive never heard of them exept the 5x5 routine but it seems your overthinking this a bit...why not keep it simple with a routine constructed mainly with compound movments to start gaining some size...do say one large bodypart and one smaller body part per day and hit them hard...leave any advance programs for later in your development and keep things basic and to the point...sence we are all different its hard to pinpoint an exact routine for you to use on aas....good luck...

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