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    Curious Questions

    Just trying to get a feel for this board as I'm still relatively new here. Simply trying to figure out what kind of AAS users we have here and what they think about a few basic things. So I have a few questions, pretty basic stuff, but it will give me a better feel for the board as a whole. Yes, I have my own opinions on most of these things, but I'll hold those till some answers pop up. Thanks for those of you who play along.

    1. How many of you have used TNE pre workout? Did you like it? How much did you use? If you hated it, why?

    2. Anadrol or Dianabol...you have to pick one and explain why and why not the other.

    3. AI's: who here has used large dose cycles without an AI and had success? If so, how do you feel you pulled it off? This question would also apply to large doses cycles and those who used an extremely low AI dose far below standard recommended averages. I'm only interested in cycles that contained 1,000mg or more of aromatizing steroids.

    4. Insulin...who uses it, how much, how often and your thoughts.

    5. Primobolan: great steroid, overrated...overall thoughts?

    6. Masteron: overall thoughts, including its anti-estrogenic effects, are the up to par or overrated?

    7. Testosterone: pick one and tell me why it's the best or tell me why it doesn't matter.

    Seven fairly basic questions that I'd think most any AAS user would have an opinion about and I'd like to know yours. Answer all seven or just answer one...or answer as many as you'd like...doesn't matter.

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    not being a smart arse man but everyone has answered all your questions, there is heaps of threads on every ones oppinions of what you have asked!!

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    1. Yes Pre and Post-Workout, but i would not consider myself an expert on Suspension. It was good, only low dose at 30mg to 40mg each time, comes on real quick, could literally feel heart rate increase within 15 to 30 minutes after shooting it.
    2. Dbol over Adrol cause Adrol just tends to give me a seady sick type feeling, whereas i feel good and healthy with Dbol.
    3. I've done 2g+ Test pw without any AI's and have never had the slightest bit of gyno, only stayed on this for about 8 weeks though, then most likely dropped the dose down to a gram and added in some dbol.
    4. Slin, used it quite a bit a few years back, it definitely works but scared the shit out of me at the same time, it did this a few times to me. I only got up to about 12iu pre-workout, started soft at around 4iu's then slowly worked my way up. It did add unwanted BF though, thats one of the biggest downsides of slin i believe. I used it ed without a doubt, stacked obviously with gear.
    5. Only ever used oral primo and can't give any positive feedback unfortunately.
    6. Mast is awesome, one of the best steroids ever created, works a treat, pumped me up real good when i stacked it 50/50 with test prop like this 100mg/100mg ed. Aggression got a bit high at times and caused a few minor dramas lol
    7. When on cycle it really doesn't bother me if its test e, test c or sus250, the longer i stay on cycle = the more residual build-up of gear in my body and the over-lapping effect of multiple injections everyweek mean that it really makes little difference as to which form of test i use. I will not however go back to test prop, i prefer long esters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by btern View Post
    not being a smart arse man but everyone has answered all your questions, there is heaps of threads on every ones oppinions of what you have asked!!
    You missed the point. Plus, its easier to ask stuff in one thread rather than searching around forever in multiple threads. In all honesty, as many threads as there are on this board, I seriously doubt there's a question that hasn't been asked before. That means, by your logic there's no need for anyone to ever ask another question again. The forum should close down and people can just reference it.

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    I never use any orals. No point, I have time.
    I prefer test C
    Cycle without Ai and sure, feel like shit, depression, water retention, unable to cross legs, body pain, breathing problems!
    Insulin. No way. I JUST THINK ITS DANGEROUS.
    All other injectables. 1 think you must take time and see how they work for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalject View Post
    You missed the point. Plus, its easier to ask stuff in one thread rather than searching around forever in multiple threads. In all honesty, as many threads as there are on this board, I seriously doubt there's a question that hasn't been asked before. That means, by your logic there's no need for anyone to ever ask another question again. The forum should close down and people can just reference it.
    You don't have to search multiple threads forever. Use the search feature for as many questions as you asked. It's not hard. Sounds like you might be a little lazy. And for your questions, the responses could go on forever. What is the best test? Elementary question.

    Very few will take the time to respond to your thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalject View Post
    Just trying to get a feel for this board as I'm still relatively new here. Simply trying to figure out what kind of AAS users we have here and what they think about a few basic things. So I have a few questions, pretty basic stuff, but it will give me a better feel for the board as a whole. Yes, I have my own opinions on most of these things, but I'll hold those till some answers pop up. Thanks for those of you who play along.

    1. How many of you have used TNE pre workout? Did you like it? How much did you use? If you hated it, why?No i have not

    2. Anadrol or Dianabol...you have to pick one and explain why and why not the other. dbol, i dont go over 40mg's ed. Anything more i just see more water. Tried drol once it messed with my blood sugar alot

    3. AI's: who here has used large dose cycles without an AI and had success? If so, how do you feel you pulled it off? This question would also apply to large doses cycles and those who used an extremely low AI dose far below standard recommended averages. I'm only interested in cycles that contained 1,000mg or more of aromatizing steroids.
    yes. I used over 2grams of test with no ai. Had chipmunk cheeks but no gyno issue. Knowing what i know no i always use an ai
    4. Insulin...who uses it, how much, how often and your thoughts.im a diabetic but i do minipulate my dosages depending on what im doing

    5. Primobolan: great steroid, overrated...overall thoughts?never personally used it. To much $ imo for results that i have seen

    6. Masteron: overall thoughts, including its anti-estrogenic effects, are the up to par or overrated? i use mast instead of primo. I like it. I think the ai properties are over rated. i still use an ai on it

    7. Testosterone: pick one and tell me why it's the best or tell me why it doesn't matter. i dont care either way. I honestly use what i can get the best deal on for a brand i want at the time.

    Seven fairly basic questions that I'd think most any AAS user would have an opinion about and I'd like to know yours. Answer all seven or just answer one...or answer as many as you'd like...doesn't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalject View Post
    You missed the point. Plus, its easier to ask stuff in one thread rather than searching around forever in multiple threads. In all honesty, as many threads as there are on this board, I seriously doubt there's a question that hasn't been asked before. That means, by your logic there's no need for anyone to ever ask another question again. The forum should close down and people can just reference it.
    x 2, I agree.

    No offence to anyone else

    Quote Originally Posted by John Andrew View Post
    I never use any orals. No point, I have time.
    I prefer test C
    Cycle without Ai and sure, feel like shit, depression, water retention, unable to cross legs, body pain, breathing problems!
    Insulin. No way. I JUST THINK ITS DANGEROUS.
    All other injectables. 1 think you must take time and see how they work for you.
    you get breathing problems without an AI, really? what are you running to get that? do you use EQ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    You don't have to search multiple threads forever. Use the search feature for as many questions as you asked. It's not hard. Sounds like you might be a little lazy. And for your questions, the responses could go on forever. What is the best test? Elementary question.

    Very few will take the time to respond to your thread.
    Yes, they're basic question but every board you go to you'll find different opinions even when it comes to basic questions. Sometimes by asking basic questions you can find little curious bits of information. Nothing wrong with that and if it's a thread you don't want to post in or that you find stupid, hey, you don't have to post in it. The thread doesn't have any ill-effect on your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1;6110***
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    You beat me on the test. Most I ever used without an AI was 1750/wk...1 amp of Testoviron Depot a day. Actually, that's the most I ever used with or without an AI. I actually had a fairly easy time controlling the water, at least easier than I thought it would be. I honestly believe most guys could control water retention so much easier if they just controlled their diet a little more...especially carbs. For whatever reason, I always seemed to have an easier time controlling side effects with far more frequent injections than what's needed on paper. After all, I know test-e doesn't have to be injected ed or eod, but there's seems to be (at least with me) less water retention when I inject smaller doses more frequently rather than a large dose once or twice per wk. There are some theories that support this type of large ester use as being beneficial, but I haven't seen any hard data that would concrete them.

    How do you manipulate your insulin when you're dieting? Obviously you have to use it no matter what since you're diabetic, but curious as to how you manipulate it during this phase to your advantage. I'm not a big fan of insulin for BB purposes off-season, too easy to get too fat. But I think it can be useful in some cases during a dieting phase in the right person if they're lean enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalject View Post
    Yes, they're basic question but every board you go to you'll find different opinions even when it comes to basic questions. Sometimes by asking basic questions you can find little curious bits of information. Nothing wrong with that and if it's a thread you don't want to post in or that you find stupid, hey, you don't have to post in it. The thread doesn't have any ill-effect on your life.
    You are correct. But i don't frequent any other boards as this one is the best! And i like that you ask around. you are educating yourself. Good for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    You are correct. But i don't frequent any other boards as this one is the best! And i like that you ask around. you are educating yourself. Good for you!
    Tread lightly or I'll be the one educating you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalject View Post
    Just trying to get a feel for this board as I'm still relatively new here. Simply trying to figure out what kind of AAS users we have here and what they think about a few basic things. So I have a few questions, pretty basic stuff, but it will give me a better feel for the board as a whole. Yes, I have my own opinions on most of these things, but I'll hold those till some answers pop up. Thanks for those of you who play along.

    1. How many of you have used TNE pre workout? Did you like it? How much did you use? If you hated it, why?
    Never tried it.

    2. Anadrol or Dianabol...you have to pick one and explain why and why not the other.
    Tried both. Don't care for orals. I was much happier with the injections I tried. I guess they were ok for kickstarting.

    3. AI's: who here has used large dose cycles without an AI and had success? If so, how do you feel you pulled it off? This question would also apply to large doses cycles and those who used an extremely low AI dose far below standard recommended averages. I'm only interested in cycles that contained 1,000mg or more of aromatizing steroids.
    I always use an AI

    4. Insulin...who uses it, how much, how often and your thoughts.
    I use it. I am in the medical field, so I am very capable of managing it safely. As for results, I will get back to you on that, when I am finished.

    5. Primobolan: great steroid, overrated...overall thoughts?
    Haven't tried it...YET

    6. Masteron: overall thoughts, including its anti-estrogenic effects, are the up to par or overrated?
    I like it, results have been great. The sides that everyone complains about, have only affected me mildly. I have had a few big pimples, but nothing outrageous, like some people. I do not use it as a replacement for an AI, but I do think when used in conjunction with an AI, I have had significantly less sides.

    7. Testosterone: pick one and tell me why it's the best or tell me why it doesn't matter.
    Prop, all the way baby. I have no patience.

    Seven fairly basic questions that I'd think most any AAS user would have an opinion about and I'd like to know yours. Answer all seven or just answer one...or answer as many as you'd like...doesn't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalject View Post
    After all, I know test-e doesn't have to be injected ed or eod, but there's seems to be (at least with me) less water retention when I inject smaller doses more frequently rather than a large dose once or twice per wk. There are some theories that support this type of large ester use as being beneficial, but I haven't seen any hard data that would concrete them.

    But I think it can be useful in some cases during a dieting phase in the right person if they're lean enough.
    Yeah no hard data, though heaps of people swear that prop gives less bloat than enanth and cyp. Doing little shots of test e like you said would more than likely keep the bloat down a bit.

    I read up ages ago about how far some pro's push slin whilst dieting, dam crazy man, they keep their sugars as low as possible whilst on as much slin as possible. Also slin off cycle is good, you stack it with hcg to keep the natural test high since slin lowers test levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nooby View Post
    2. Anadrol or Dianabol ...you have to pick one and explain why and why not the other.
    Tried both. Don't care for orals. I was much happier with the injections I tried. I guess they were ok for kickstarting....
    I really like Dbol mid-cycle...Androl works well too but I prefer Dbol overall. Really helpful for breaking through a sticking point.

    I used to do some cycles where I would rotate Tren and Nandrolone...run one for 8wks or so, start the other one and continue both for 2-3wks and then drop the one I started with and only use the other one. I'd also use Dbol during the kick start and somewhere in the mid-point of runs like this. These were some fun cycles. They got a little longer than I guess the average cycle but they definitely gave good results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leisure Suite Larry View Post
    Yeah no hard data, though heaps of people swear that prop gives less bloat than enanth and cyp. Doing little shots of test e like you said would more than likely keep the bloat down a bit.

    I read up ages ago about how far some pro's push slin whilst dieting, dam crazy man, they keep their sugars as low as possible whilst on as much slin as possible. Also slin off cycle is good, you stack it with hcg to keep the natural test high since slin lowers test levels.
    Yeah, what some of the pro's do with insulin is mind-blowing!

    I don't like the idea of insulin off-cycle. Too much of fat gain risk. It's already a fat gain risk when you're using it to bulk, but without high hormone levels this risk is going to increase exponentially.

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